ruhacsomag Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 but why should I keep a game that doesn't work "on"? especially when after power off.... is everything ok..? It was in Bruma... I made a save in the castle. When I later started the game, this castle was nowhere! This one can hardly be surpassed but yes, you can... I had a rescue towards Bruma ... sitting on the back of the horse... (there were many other problems, but that is no longer interesting). The game stopped unexpectedly. And when reloading, the horse flew up... flew to the edge of the map and fell out of the playing field... The flight experience was perfect.. that should be left. This was an exception that gave an experience. There are horses that lack hair such as a tail or a mane, or they have quite incomplete "holes"... and there are those that look perfect. In short... you have to turn off the parts that strongly modify the proper gaming experience. *but ... that's not the problem now.
Miauzi Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 Vor 10 Minuten sagte ruhacsomag: sicherlich... deshalb werden ungenutzte Apps „nur“ abgeschaltet und nicht gelöscht. Aber... das ist die Schuld der Autoren! auf jeden Fall... Viele von ihnen verpacken das veröffentlichte Werk nicht, sondern schütten es einfach vor den Verbraucher... Also ... wenn man sich diese Seite anschaut ... kommen die Verträge und Haftungsausschlüsse! Aber das ist nicht der Punkt ... Ich denke, es ist nur ... eine geeignete Textur wäre nötig, etwas, das das gewichtete Problem der Situation lösen würde ... Mods are not "apps" - that's why the comparison is wrong because it is misleading. If you approach modifying games with the idea - it would be similar to using an "app" on your smartphone... you won't get very far in the end So - the texture for the window is in one of the 9 texture files in the Skyrim/data folder in meinem Backup sieht dass dann so aus: the data in a bsa is safe from being overwritten during an install of a mod So if the "texture-bsa" in question is there ... that's good (if something fundamental should be missing - the game usually doesn't start at all) So only the "assignment" has been lost - the game generates its data when it starts - it fetches it from the "stored" location. (is like the table of contents of a book) simply "switching off" something ... can result in this "assignment" not being reset correctly (this is everyday business "how do I modify a game properly") such "assignments" can be restored correctly - by using the CK - by a complete reinstallation - by CORRECT DE-INSTALLATION of the mod that changed the "assignment" ... so the CK is needed again for the check I can't think of anything else... but I'm happy to learn something if an experienced user has another, better solution
anjenthedog Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, ruhacsomag said: And when reloading, the horse flew up... flew to the edge of the map and fell out of the playing field... fwiw, that's one of those perplexing glitches I have yet to properly recover from without reverting to an earlier save from before the ocurrence. Even when it seemed like I had, it turned out I hadn't and things were broken afterwards.
ruhacsomag Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, anjenthedog said: glitches Well, yes. Sitting up in the saddle, I watched the show. It became an eternal experience and this was enhanced by other ... little things such as the unfinished buildings and the landscape with holes. hahaha...
Miauzi Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 Vor 2 Minuten sagte ruhacsomag: Fantastisch! Ich möchte auch diese bessere und einfachere Lösung! Ich habe geschnitten ... verstanden. Es ist kompliziert...* *Es fehlt nichts, denn wenn das der Fall wäre, würde das Spiel auch nicht starten. Ja.. Meines funktioniert super, reibungslos und stabil! Abgesehen vom ästhetischen Problem... offensichtlich. Well, on the surface, sure... but Bugdestha's games are pretty mean. There are definitely bugs that only become noticeable after days or weeks of playing the game... which get bigger and bigger as the game progresses... ...until the "shop" flies in your face. And a lack of window texture may be an aesthetic issue to the uninitiated - for someone like me, that's pretty troubling. And yes - I would eliminate this error in my case - if necessary with a new installation - even if I then spend another 4 weeks testing it of every SINGLE installed mod. I just did it - less than 4 weeks ago... and for the next 6-9 months I won't touch anything new on mods has less to do with gaming - I've had about 4000 hours of Sykrim - I'm on my 20th run through but this time I'll tell a story https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/blog/2047-eva-reborn-eine-isekai-geschichte-im-skyrim-universum/
traison Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) Textures can be missing, the game will simply replace them with these blueish/purple placeholders instead. ie. what you're seeing in your windows. That's why I said: you find the mesh, you find which texture is missing. Find the mod that modifies this file: Architecture\Solitude\SStyrrsHouse.nif Then use NifSkope to find the textures it references, or upload the nif file here and I'll do it. Edited May 30, 2023 by traison 2
ruhacsomag Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Miauzi said: if an experienced user has another, better solution Fantastic! I also want this better and simpler solution! I cut... got it. it's complicated...* *nothing is missing because if that were the case, then the game wouldn't start either. Yeah.. Mine works great, smoothly and stable! Except for the aesthetic problem... obviously. Reassessing the matter I think I need the name of the given texture set folder... and or the package name list if by chance there is something similar... I can remove it among the loose files. Trial, possibility. I don't destroy too much, because the trash can put everything back where it was. However... I haven't the faintest idea about such filenames or the extension if it's different from normal... The search engine will find it ... if it exists.
ruhacsomag Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, traison said: Find Fantastic! I got a idea ... and it looks like I can get ahead ... a little. Spoiler I'm going to try it now... everywhere. Thank YOU!
ruhacsomag Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, traison said: Solitude It seems that the file name is different for each city... so it didn't work. Unfortunately. Spoiler
traison Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 Like I said earlier, send that nif to me and I'll tell you what's wrong. 1
ruhacsomag Posted May 31, 2023 Author Posted May 31, 2023 6 hours ago, traison said: send Spoiler sstyrrshouse.nif Thank You.
traison Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) You're missing these files (edit: and probably others): Textures\effects\ELFX\windows\solitude\SWindow03.dds Textures\effects\ELFX\windows\solitude\SWindow03_n.dds The hint is in the path: ELFX Edited May 31, 2023 by traison 1
Miauzi Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 Vor 5 Minuten sagte traison: Ihnen fehlen diese Dateien (Bearbeiten: und wahrscheinlich auch andere): Textures\effects\ELFX\windows\solitude\SWindow03.dds Textures\effects\ELFX\windows\solitude\SWindow03_n.dds Der Hinweis befindet sich im Pfad: ELFX I ask this question out of my own interest to get a better understanding of how mods work. There are mods that change the structural appearance of sites and mods that change the visual appearance (light "reflected" in front of windows). If you use such modifications and don't uninstall them correctly... can such a window texture "disappear"??
traison Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) I think what most likely happened here was ruhacsomag installed a building mesh mod that had a dependency on textures provided by ELFX, then ELFX was uninstalled (or it was never installed in the first place). This thread is a bit of a mess tbh. and I don't feel like deciphering too much of it. Not ignorance, laziness perhaps. Also I have 0 trust in NMM/Vortex when it comes to uninstalling mods. But I am biased, I use MO2. Something to be considered maybe, but take it with a grain of salt as they say. Edit: Or both the building mesh and textures both belong to ELFX and this is all user error. Sort of like a partial uninstall, meshes remained but textures were removed. Who knows. Regardless, there's 2 solutions to this: Install ELFX textures (whichever mod provides them) or remove the building meshes using ELFX textures. Edited May 31, 2023 by traison 1
Miauzi Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 Vor 7 Minuten sagte traison: Ich denke, was hier höchstwahrscheinlich passiert ist, war, dass ruhacsomag einen Gebäude-Mesh-Mod installierte, der von den von ELFX bereitgestellten Texturen abhängig war, und dann ELFX deinstallierte (oder es überhaupt nicht installierte). Dieser Thread ist ehrlich gesagt ein bisschen chaotisch. und ich habe keine Lust, zu viel davon zu entschlüsseln. Nicht Unwissenheit, vielleicht Faulheit. Außerdem habe ich kein Vertrauen in NMM/Vortex, wenn es um die Deinstallation von Mods geht. Aber ich bin voreingenommen, ich verwende MO2. Vielleicht gibt es etwas, das man bedenken sollte, aber man sollte es mit Vorsicht genießen, wie man sagt. Bearbeiten: Oder sowohl das Gebäudenetz als auch die Texturen gehören zu ELFX und das ist alles ein Benutzerfehler. So etwas wie eine teilweise Deinstallation, die Netze blieben erhalten, aber die Texturen wurden entfernt. Wer weiß. Unabhängig davon gibt es zwei Lösungen dafür: Installieren Sie ELFX-Texturen (je nachdem, welcher Mod sie bereitstellt) oder entfernen Sie die Gebäudenetze mithilfe von ELFX-Texturen. Thank you for this information. I suspected something similar - only I'm not nearly as deep into the details as you are. I use Votex myself...so I know about its shortcomings when uninstalling mods (unfortunately the after-effects of my burnout are too severe for me to have the necessary concentration - to familiarize myself with MO2) Our thread opener doesn't actually know what he's doing and I have the (purely personal) impression that he's not really interested
ruhacsomag Posted May 31, 2023 Author Posted May 31, 2023 4 hours ago, traison said: ELFX I read it and... as an average user, maybe I understand half of it. But the vortex is not something that everyone uses. Many... but not everyone. if I mean what is necessary... installing ELFX solves the problem... Great. As a matter of fact and looking through some old notes... there really was something about 3 years ago with this thing. But how and what happened... it's completely unclear... The investigation, viewed from this window... is successful. But ... Windhelm is untouched by the problem. Only Solitude, Whiterun, Riften what I just saw. 4 hours ago, Miauzi said: Votex well.... the topic starter is just a user. 1 of the many many of all... that's all. I'm sorry if this causes you problems. But really... if the creator doesn't take the trouble to distribute the program work packaged... this kind of error can occur. At least I have learned something now. For example, one of the most important. If possible, I should only use works published with packaged files!
traison Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 Take a screenshot of a broken building in Windhelm and we'll repeat the process. 1
ruhacsomag Posted May 31, 2023 Author Posted May 31, 2023 26 minutes ago, traison said: screenshot I... really would if I could. but i can't do it. because I didn't find a single visible problem that was unknown. Spoiler However... I installed that program. And... now I'm going to remove it right away because it was immediately obvious why I need to get rid of it. Spoiler As for me... this investigation was awesome and really helped me a lot!
ruhacsomag Posted May 31, 2023 Author Posted May 31, 2023 Oh... the effects. After all, I just turned it off ... I didn't remove it. I was left with the fix... so it's much more reasonable and of course there is no visible error. Spoiler Spoiler That's it for me... it suits me perfectly... The "view" spectacle is excellent.
ruhacsomag Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 A történet lezárásaként szeretném, ha mások is okulhatnának az esemény sikerén. A valóság mindig ámító és nyilván hihetetlen. Ezért a féligazság sohasem elégséges... Az itteni eset egy régi program hibáján alapszik amit egy új játékindítás előresorolt. Megkérdezte valaki... ez a hiba miért nem volt "korábban" látható!? - Talán mert nem jelent meg? - Talán csak azért, mert nem jártam az adott hibákkal bíró településeken!? Gondolom, te sem mész örökké a szomszéd város minden utcájába... vagy az ország másik végébe! - Szabadon választható mert ... és persze mivel mindkettő tényleges és valóságos. Valójában, néha... még a pár napja történtekre sem emlékezek nem hogy a sok éves esemény részletére. - Van ezzel bárki máshogy!? - Azonban: Na van valami ami a megfelelő fiókot megnyitja, akkor az kihúzható és az emlékek előjönnek. Visszanézve a korábbi eseményekre a... kapott információ szerint, visszakerült egy törölt alkalmazás. A helyreállítás találom szerinti... hiszen a telepítő által kínált sokféle lehetőség mást nem enged. A művelet... sikeres eredményt hozott mivel a felemlített probléma megszűnt. Lett két döntés: Eltávolítás vagy Kikapcsolás - Az első esemény... már egyszer volt és az sikertelennek bizonyult. Ezért a második lehetőség az alap. - A kikapcsolás megfelelő megoldás, mivel nincs hiba! Miért kellett ezt tenni!? - A hiba megszűnt. - Az eltávolítással most nem akartam bajlódni. - A program HIBÁS és azóta sem lett javítva valamint a program is el lett hagyva. A program hibája: - nézőpont szerinti fénykapcsolgatás... ami többnyire és talán még el is viselhető... - szaggató, nyúzó, húzó, játékmenet... 5-20 képkockával. Ez már elviselhetetlen...! - A pörgéses eseménynél (ezt az NPC tömeges megjelenése társításával valamint füsthatással vegyítve) úgy lehet megélni mintha halálosan fáradt lennél és az alignál is csak éppen hogy vonszolnád magad. Az irányítás szinte szenvedő állapoton van. A videokártyák hűtése az egekben ahogy a proc ventilátora is szinte már elindítaná a vasdobozt.... ha volnának kerekei és nem lenne közel 30kg. Szóval, most kikapcsolva és minden az elfogadható határok közt és módon működik. Végtére a segítség valóban az volt ami. Akadékoskodás és értelmetlen kötözködés nélkül. Köszönet érte! A kép tanúsága: "Bármit teszel, előbb gondold át". Ez sokkal nehezebb egy hirtelen döntésnél, mint egy előre megtervezett esemény végrehajtása előtt! Szép Napot és Jó Játékot...
ruhacsomag Posted June 3, 2023 Author Posted June 3, 2023 Tessék... hibakép. Hátha valakin ez is segít. A megoldás a játék újratelepítése mivel a kérdéses program olyan részt ír felül, amit egy eltávolítás nem korrigál és az eredeti állapot szerint NEM ÁLLÍT VISSZA! Ajánlás: SOHA NE TELEPÍTSD az ELFX programot és/vagy 1 évesnél régebbi gépre és/vagy számolj az újratelepítés lehetőségével amennyiben eltávolítod! Úgy tűnik a program okozta zűrzavar másként nem javítható!
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now