Delicious flat chested... armor? o_O

[redeyesandlonghair]

Okay so this doesn't actually make the chest of the lady flat, it just gets rid of boobs on metal armor.  Now I know I might be in the minority here on the ol' lab regarding this, but I just find it both sexier and cuter when the ladies wear normal non-boob-cup armor, and there is this fantastic new body and armor replacer that does just that!  

 

I mean c'mon, doesn't this just make you want to squee?

 

Adorable! \( > w < )/  Must hug and pet and feed sweetrolls O_O

 

Just thought I would get this body a little attention here  

 

CNHF Calyps and Nuskas Heroic Form:  http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/34213//?

[Guest carywinton]

She kind of resembles a cute elf type warrior, I could see that armor having some potential uses.

Nice post and idea.

[Mud]

I must confess, I audibly went "GAH" when I saw that.

 

I can see uses for that armor with certain characters, though.

[Duoleb The Chosen]

the concept is fine for certain characters and bodies, but the face and the loli in my humble opinion

 

[redeyesandlonghair]

the concept is fine for certain characters and bodies, but the face and the loli in my humble opinion

 

 

What's wrong with her face? ...that's not part of the armor you know >_>; I made her look like that with Enhanced Character Edit!  ... do I like weird looking girls or something? >.>

 

...and what loli?  the body underneath has boobs :| it's quite womanly in fact... it's just sensibly armored

[cuprati]

what the fuck

[Mud]

 

 

What's wrong with her face? ...that's not part of the armor you know >_>; I made her look like that with Enhanced Character Edit!  ... do I like weird looking girls or something? >.>

 

...and what loli?  the body underneath has boobs :| it's quite womanly in fact... it's just sensibly armored

 

Well, I dunno if you want our opinions at all, and it might just be a bad angle or poor lighting, but like, that character seems more like she's had a few too many Botox injections, with the cheekbones and the lips and whatnot.

[redeyesandlonghair]

 

 

 

What's wrong with her face? ...that's not part of the armor you know >_>; I made her look like that with Enhanced Character Edit!  ... do I like weird looking girls or something? >.>

 

...and what loli?  the body underneath has boobs :| it's quite womanly in fact... it's just sensibly armored

 

Well, I dunno if you want our opinions at all, and it might just be a bad angle or poor lighting, but like, that character seems more like she's had a few too many Botox injections, with the cheekbones and the lips and whatnot.

 

Well... yeah the lips aren't quite right yet...I've been trying to get them looking better, so you definitely have a point there.  Like what specifically would make them look better?  Thinner?  Is the color off?  The funny part is I actually didn't adjust very much on the mouth... just turned the corners up to make her look happy and sneaky.

 

I did not realize there was something wrong with the cheekbones though... can you even get botox in your cheekbones? o.o  I will admit that my sense of facial proportion may have been corrupted by too much anime.  Again, is there any specific tips you can give me about the cheek area that would make it look better?  I have a lot of widgets I can adjust in ECC.

 

I would actually love your opinions about the face (even if technically this thread isn't about my ability to make good faces o.o).  She still doesn't look quite right to me either... but I don't really know what to change on her to get it right o.o;

 

The problem with Enhanced Character Edit is that it makes it like it was in oblivion... where you can mess with the face so much that it looks weird ._.

 

 

 

AGAIN: The face is not part of the body/armor replacer, that is my own creation through Enhanced Character Creation.  And she has boobs... what do I gotta post nude pics of her? s( u 3 u )z

[Duoleb The Chosen]

dude chill it was just a joke

 

the concept is fine, its perfect for those who wants a Armor_0 and at the same time who wants a "realityfaggotry" rpg armor

 

the only problem is that, i mean her face she looks like creepy elmira from pinky elmira and brain

[redeyesandlonghair]

dude chill it was just a joke

 

the concept is fine, its perfect for those who wants a Armor_0 and at the same time who wants a "realityfaggotry" rpg armor

 

the only problem is that, i mean her face she looks like creepy elmira from pinky elmira and brain

I am chill... I'm actually rather confused to why you would think otherwise .-. ...maybe you need to chill?

 

And what do you mean "Armor_0"...

 

 

and... "realityfaggotry" ? ...what?  are you serious? ...I think you do need to chill xD

 

and... do you mean this Elmira?  ...I'm starting to think you're a strange person

 

Anyways, the focus here is on the fact that this armor looks nice and cute, in my opinion, and that the body itself is quite attractive as well.  It doesn't have DDDDDD boobs or a DDDDDD butt or anything, but I have this weird feeling that not every single person around here likes that anyway :3

[Mud]

Well yeah, the lips are too plump, but I think there's more than one way you could go about achieving that cute, anime-esque look. Plump out her cheeks a bit and lengthen her face to reduce the plastic surgery look, get thinner lips because they take up a lot of space and usually don't suit a "cute" character that well, and rearrange the height of some of her features.

 

The follower mod Mystic Knight Sara by Standalone01 has one of the better "cute" style faces I've seen, so you could use her as a base of sorts.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, on the subject of the armor/body themselves, I'm not sure if most of these armors could really go for that "cute" look. It looks to me like the body's a sort of bodybuilder type, with more modest assets, but a thicker body and toned arms and whatnot. I think the usual UNP or UNPB armors at low weight would work better for the "cute" character type.

[bitterne]

The armor DOES look cute. I quite like it.

 

Now, as for the face... I'll leave some advice here that comes from my anatomy classes. Obviously you'll want to take my advice and play around with it, since you want an animesque look for your girl. Post a front picture of your girl's face if you can, but from what I can see:

 

• The eyes seem to be too low. The  top of her iris should be at the same height as the top of her ears. The length of the mouth in relation to her pupils seems right. 
• The nose is too small, short and flat. Obviously you want a generally small/short nose to make the face look youthful but this is overdoing it. Ideally, the length from the end of the nose to the end of the chin would be the same as the length of the hairline to the pupils. So lengthen the nose and lengthen the chin.
• The chin itself is way too small, looking like your girl's lower face is all squished in. It also makes the cheekbones look even wider than they are.
• Speaking of cheekbones, they could definitely stand to be more narrow and less pointy. The distance from the outermost part of the cheekbone to the outer edge of the eye should be the same as the length between the two inner corners of the eyes. All in all, the width of a face should be 5 times the distance between the inner corners of the eyes.
• The lips aren't too plump, in fact I think the lips are completely fine. 
• For the anime look try enlarging her irises instead of her eyes. That will  also make her look young and mischievous. 

Now, I'm not telling you this is how your character should look or that this is how to make a good looking character. If you follow those guidelines you'll have a perfectly average character with proportions close to the ones artists consider ideal. So instead fix your girl's proportions but also play around with them! Make the eyes a bit bigger than normal, make her nose a bit shorter, her mouth pouty, whatever works for you! As we all know,  having perfect proportions is boring and unmemorable. 

 

I think your girl is already quite adorable. With a bit more work she will definitely be someone to squeal over!

[redeyesandlonghair]

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Yes, Mystic Knight Sara is probably the cutest thing in Skyrim.  I do have a tendency to set everything jaw and chin related very low.  I'm not necessarily going for a character who looks like they're straight out of an anime (since that would look weird....oh... now I see the problem

 

And as for the body, I love it!  I know it has a real "tough rawr" kind of look to it, but I think that is great :3  Not just small squishy things can be cute you know  I know that some people might find the fusion of "cute sneaky girl" and "amazon warrior" a bit strange... but it works for me... for whatever reason o_O

 

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This is possibly the most useful face making information I have ever gotten O_O

 

And you're pretty much spot on.  The eye height slider is all the way down, the nose sliders are all very low, the chin sliders are super low as well.

 

 

Thank you very much both of you for your advice

[redeyesandlonghair]

Adjusted her face some with the advice.  Also I got some elven armor in the meantime, so here is a pic of the armor replacer's elven armor!  Quite flattering I think  Also below in spoiler tags are some big ol' pictures of her face close up at various angles   Any further advice is appreciated, since apparently this thread is now dual function O_o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Koko.Hekmatyar]

I think what makes her look the weirdest is that HUGE gap between her eyes and eyebrows.

[woodenstick]

Alright everyone calm down and stop making fun of his chara-
WHOA DID THAT YOU RIP THAT GIRL STRAIGHT FROM VANILLA OBLIVION?!?!?! o.O

(sorry man had to say it, everyone has their preferences  )

[bitterne]

This already looks tons better! She's pretty adorable tbh.

 

Maybe play around with the eyebrows a bit? Right now they look a bit like rainbows. And then bring the eyes sliiightly higher and the eyebrows a little bit lower. Also, I think her eyes might be a bit too tilted, try playing around with that too.

[redeyesandlonghair]

Alright everyone calm down and stop making fun of his chara-

WHOA DID THAT YOU RIP THAT GIRL STRAIGHT FROM VANILLA OBLIVION?!?!?! o.O

(sorry man had to say it, everyone has their preferences  )

 

I'm going to hit you with my foot s( u 3 u )z ...even though I know exactly what you're talking about... you don't even wanna see some of the messed up things I created in Oblivion O_o

 

This already looks tons better! She's pretty adorable tbh.

 

Maybe play around with the eyebrows a bit? Right now they look a bit like rainbows. And then bring the eyes sliiightly higher and the eyebrows a little bit lower. Also, I think her eyes might be a bit too tilted, try playing around with that too.

 

Ya I tend to arc the eyebrows up like that because of... you guessed it!  anime.  Spunky characters always seem to have those types of eyebrows... but apparently it doesn't transfer very well into an actual 3D face >_<

 

e.g. 

 

She is supposed to be half bosmer tho... some of that comes through right?  ...okay maybe she's one third bosmer >_>;

 

If she looks good to you, then go with it, that is all that really matters. No one else here is playing your game or looking at your character 24/7 but you. You are the only one she has to please. I think she looks fine, if she were mine the only thing I would change is the forehead, personally it looks like it slopes back to far, but like I said, she has to please you not me or anyone else.

 

Well that's the thing, she looked kind of weird to me too, I just couldn't specifically pin down why.  It really helped to have someone very precisely point out how her proportions were weird... I was actually surprised just how quickly she started too look "more right" when I started making bitterne's suggested adjustments....

 

 

 

As a side note... now that the lower half of her face is more normal, she lines up better with certain sex lab animations... and isn't that the most important thing after all?

[Honesty]

No one likes someone who beats around the bush, and who likes someone who pretends to be nice...

I'll say it flat out: I fucking HATE that Monli look or whatever mod you downloaded. It's fucking horrendous, I'm sorry. She doesn't look loli at all. She looks like a adult with a bunch of botox who was shrunk to "loli-size"

 

If you want a cute-as-shit character and very loli-like, then download Jiiteks CoTS mod.

 

 

EDIT: I just figured out who she looks like -

 

 

EDIT NUMBER 2: I'm not trying to be purposely mean. Hell, we probably have a lot in common. My avatar, your avatar.. lets get some drinks! I'm just being brutally fucking honest. Seriously. Use Jiitek's mod. You'll  friggin wow yourself.

[redeyesandlonghair]

No one likes someone who beats around the bush, and who likes someone who pretends to be nice...

 

I'll say it flat out: I fucking HATE that Monli look or whatever mod you downloaded. It's fucking horrendous, I'm sorry. She doesn't look loli at all. She looks like a adult with a bunch of botox who was shrunk to "loli-size"

 

If you want a cute-as-shit character and very loli-like, then download Jiiteks CoTS mod.

 

 

EDIT: I just figured out who she looks like -

 

 

EDIT NUMBER 2: I'm not trying to be purposely mean. Hell, we probably have a lot in common. My avatar, your avatar.. lets get some drinks! I'm just being brutally fucking honest. Seriously. Use Jiitek's mod. You'll  friggin wow yourself.

 

No Monli here... have never actually downloaded that in fact.  The only things modifying my game's faces are "CNHF Calyps and Nuskas Heroic Form" ( http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/34213//? )  and Enhanced Character Edit ( http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/12951/? ).  That's it.  And honestly, I don't want a loli character...oddly enough, I don't actually like when characters look like they're straight out of an anime, and my Dovakhiin isn't supposed to be a little kid (nothing little-kid-like about the CNHF body ~_^ ).  CoTS... is that Children of the Sky? ....isn't that the one that puts all the little girls in slutty outfits? o.o no.. thanks...

 

Also, that picture you're looking at in the initial post?  That doesn't actually exist anymore; scroll down through the thread and you will see that I got some really good advice from some people about how to change her around (that person didn't "beat around the bush" either... but what they did do was give very precise and knowledgable information that really made an actual  difference :3 ), and there are new pictures to show what she looks like now, and I think she looks pretty great now .  It pays to read the whole thread you know!

 

Also, as for the "I found out who she looks like pic" that you posted, I think you can admit that you may have gotten a little excited while writing your post and ended up exaggerating quite a bit.  I find it flattering that you get so passionate about my character though; I assure you, she looks great now so you can rest easy  Thank you for your concern though, and for recommending the CoTS mod ( even though I won't be using it ).

 

Also, just reminding you, this thread is less about my characters face and more about the armor replacer

[Uriel]

I'll just leave this here.

[Honesty]

Lol Uriel.

 

And sorry if it seemed like I was going off on a rant there, redeyes - everyone was commenting on it so I thought I'd throw my internet opinion in there.

 

And forgive me for suggesting CoTS; judging by your obviously Loli-avatar and your Loli-sig and your way of writing, I only assumed.

 

As for them being in "slutty" outfits however, that is wrong completely. They're actually dressed quite nicely and it also comes with xvision children, which removes all the potato headed clones from the game and replaces them with individual looks and features.

 

I suppose you could download BDSM outfits if that's your thing and slap them on there, but the pretty sundresses and fully frilled dresses and skirts are very well done - there's actually an entire ongoing thread by lostdaywalker -- he makes/converts outfits for CoTS -- none of which maybe minus one or two is any kind of revealing at all.

 

Anyway, sorry again for going off like that - I did just now scroll down and it is much better!

[shedidwhat]

BTW Redeye's

 

ECE was updated on the nexus today.

[redeyesandlonghair]

BTW Redeye's

 

ECE was updated on the nexus today.

 

I know, I have it tracked.  The expression slider doesn't actually do all that much... unless I want to make my characters mouth hang open 24/7 o_O;

[Monsto Brukes]

Adjusted her face some with the advice.  Also I got some elven armor in the meantime, so here is a pic of the armor replacer's elven armor!  Quite flattering I think  Also below in spoiler tags are some big ol' pictures of her face close up at various angles   Any further advice is appreciated, since apparently this thread is now dual function O_o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know what? My first reaction to the op was . . . let's just say. . . negative. 

 

Can you guess what my first action was? Take a look at the thread and see if you can guess... that's right nothing. I said fucking nothing.

 

Why? because in the op, the request was for flat chested armors . . . armors without bulbous tit-scoops. What they didn't ask for was your opinion of his character. 

 

redeyesandlonghair

dude change the character back. If you had it the way you liked it, then GO FUCKING YOU. Great. It's your game, you liked it, it was fun for you and you don't need the PMRC staring over your shoulder tellin you what you can and can't do with your own pixels.