Weird floppy wrists

[WrythePhokas]

I'm using a CB++ modified body with TBBP but (perhaps stupidly) I decided to try on a couple of chsbhc BBP outfits.

 

Shortly thereafter I noticed something weird going on with the wrists, not only of my char but of all female NPC's. It's only noticeable when walking (not sneaking, running etc.).

 

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I've checked from all angles and this isn't the wrist clipping with the pants. Since it affects all female NPC's and not only me (I'm using Custom Races) I figure it's got something to do with the walking animation. Just to make sure I copied old meshes, textures and animations from a backup copy into the appropriate folders, but the problem persists. 

 

I've also uninstalled the chsbhc outfits and I'm loading a much earlier save, but the wrists are still floppy.

 

Because of the timing I figure they were the cause of this, but I can't for the life of me figure out how.

 

I guess it's possible it's always been like this and I've just noticed, but I'm not THAT old and senile (I hope).

 

Any ideas? 

[winny257]

it has nothing to do with the bodies and armor emulate, it's the animation that you use!
here is an alternative.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/9289-rel-new-updates-nov-28th-tender-bbp-a-new-bbp-simulation/

[WrythePhokas]

I had been using the Butt Bounce TBBP thingy by leCid. I tried replacing them with the original animations from your link, but the wrists are as floppy as ever (plus no butt bounce).

 

I don't get this.

 

Just in case anyone is wondering - I'm running FNIS after every animation replacement. 

[Ark of Truth]

It can be the body winny. If the skeleton attached to the body is rigged incorrectly that can happen.

[Groovtama]

3 reasons I have on my mind

- missplaced node in skeleton

  -  try another skeleton and see if it goes away

- missrigid body.

  - try another body with the same node rigid in it to test

- missplaced nodes in the keyed animation.

  - try another animation file, some animations mostly older ones have flaws on new bodies/skeletons, same new with old ones

[winny257]

it can be the body winny. If the skeleton attached to the body is rigged incorrectly that can happen.

 

sorry my mistake, I had not thought of. I thought if he has used a TBBP animation also use the correct skeleton. BBP skeletons would still cause a crash, therefore keep my thought was that the fault lies in the animation.

[WrythePhokas]

OK - it must be the animation (or a combination of skeleton/animation). I tried a non bbp/tbbp animation (from xp32's animation pack) and the wrists are fine. 

 

I have been using the TBBP package for a month now without problems so I figured something must have happened somewhere quite recently. I'm tearing my hair out (almost - I'm not nuts) because now the wrists are all I can look at when my character walks. 

 

 

[WrythePhokas]

I reinstalled the whole thing from scratch (cbbe, cb++, tbbp, xpms), but the wrists are still floppy. Wouldn't more people have this problem if the animation, skeleton or mesh was to blame? 

 

I don't want to do a reinstall of the whole game plus mods, but it seems the only way to go if I'm to get to the bottom of this. 

 

I really appreciate the comments above, but I'm still stuck. Any ideas would be most welcome.