sim having threesomes with any sim , independently of gender.

[arak2]

sims are always accepting threesomes. even when the gender compliance is set in ww config (unless i am doing something wrong) . although they refuse with single sims that do not fit preferences.

 

can someone offer a guide of the main gender compliance configs?

 

they are also seeking to do sex autonomously with sims of incompatible genders if the cheat to always accept sex is enabled.

 

any fix for this?

[Crashdown117]

Well, gender compliance is just one switch in the settings, isn't it? ON means compatibility checks for all participants, OFF means one match is enough. Unless you partially disabled gender recognition (setting to register males/females as both, recognition mode to "anything goes", or disabling sex according to preferences only, right above gender compliance) or the preferences of your Sims are not set correctly in CAS (click the three little dots right below the male/female icons), this one should not give you any trouble.

NPC Sims will generally be open for anything, so you need to make sure that your own Sims tell them what's what.

 

"Always Accept" on the other hand can cause these mismatches, because setting it to "Full" (i.e. both bars) means that any gender preferences will be ignored, while setting it to "Half" (i.e. only one bar) means that preferences and a few other factors (e.g. cheating on a significant other) will still be taken into account.

[arak2]

here it is how rhe config is set:

 

 

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maybe its some mod causing it? this is happening even wuth the "anything goes" replaced by other configs.

Edited February 28, 2023 by arak2

[Crashdown117]

It may be caused by your gender recognition settings, since AFAIK, that recognized gender of a Sim is what needs to match the preferences of potential partners. You have both the gender recognition mode set to "Anything goes" (means WW won't give a rat's ass about whether or not a Sim is male or female) and the options to recognize males/females as both enabled (redundant with "Anything goes", maybe this causes issues). My first guess would be that without a "proper" gender recognition, WW doesn't know that there is a mismatch between the preferences and the Sims' genders, so maybe try switching to "identitity based" recognition (with "males/females as both" still active, it shouldn't make a difference when it comes to sex roles and all that).

Your sex relationship settings are the same as mine, except for gender compliance being enabled and I've also played with that turned ON in the past, so you're probably fine on that end.

 

On a perhaps unrelated note, there's a notification from MCCC about a LastException visible in your screenshots. If there is indeed a problem with WW or another mod, the LE report (found as an HTML file in your MCCC folder) could contain some valuable information, so uploading that file here might be a good idea.

[arak2]

On 2/28/2023 at 3:59 PM, Crashdown117 said:

It may be caused by your gender recognition settings, since AFAIK, that recognized gender of a Sim is what needs to match the preferences of potential partners. You have both the gender recognition mode set to "Anything goes" (means WW won't give a rat's ass about whether or not a Sim is male or female) and the options to recognize males/females as both enabled (redundant with "Anything goes", maybe this causes issues). My first guess would be that without a "proper" gender recognition, WW doesn't know that there is a mismatch between the preferences and the Sims' genders, so maybe try switching to "identitity based" recognition (with "males/females as both" still active, it shouldn't make a difference when it comes to sex roles and all that).

Your sex relationship settings are the same as mine, except for gender compliance being enabled and I've also played with that turned ON in the past, so you're probably fine on that end.

 

On a perhaps unrelated note, there's a notification from MCCC about a LastException visible in your screenshots. If there is indeed a problem with WW or another mod, the LE report (found as an HTML file in your MCCC folder) could contain some valuable information, so uploading that file here might be a good idea.

 

 

is there a way to override these gender recognizations ? its because if i set to be recognized as "gender identity" the number of sex positions is reduced. i will also be unable to select the gender role of the sims, only the sexual role. hence it worsens the gameplay.

 

if i do as you say what happens is that the sim will not even be able to join sex with threesomes. i want them to be to ,but sims will reject based on attractiveness  and/or gender. they are rejecting based on attractiveness but not on gender.

Edited March 2, 2023 by arak2

[Crashdown117]

57 minutes ago, arak2 said:

is there a way to override these gender recognizations ? its because if i set to be recognized as "gender identity" the number of sex positions is reduced. i will also be unable to select the gender role of the sims, only the sexual role. hence it worsens the gameplay.

 

if i do as you say what happens is that the sim will not even be able to join sex with threesomes. i want them to be to ,but sims will reject based on attractiveness  and/or gender. they are rejecting based on attractiveness but not on gender.

You still have the settings to recognize males/females as both enabled, don't you? That should make all sex roles available to every Sim. Assignment of gender roles is something I can do regardless of my gender recognition settings, so I'm a bit clueless as to why it doesn't work for you.

 

If your Sims are rejecting sex because of attractiveness mismatches and you don't want that to happen, the simple solution is to turn of that feature (it's found among the "master switches" in the topmost category of settings). Of course, you can also play around with the attractiveness preferences of your Sims until they all match nicely. I prefer the simpler system that utilizes likes and dislikes in CAS, much easier to set up and much easier to understand what's going on.

 

That LastException is still giving me a bit of a bad feeling in this whole matter, by the way. Maybe there's another mod interfering with WW or maybe your game and mod versions are not compatible (e.g. because you updated one but not the other) - if either is the case, fiddling around with the settings might not do much for you and missing stuff wouldn't be much of a surprise.

Just to be safe: That option for teen sex (didn't notice it before) is only there because you have the Inappropriate Unlock mod installed, right? You're not trying to run last year's WW version on a recent game build or anything like that? Because that will not go well (same for recent mod version on older game build).

[arak2]

im fine with them rejecting becuase of attractiveness.  problem is the gender incompabilities. it was just an example.

 

im with the updated ww.

 

i dont think its a mod because i deleted most mods after a backup.

 

i did what you said. i changed "anything goes" to gender identity and even sex identity. it did not work.

 

 

Edited March 3, 2023 by arak2

[arak2]

3 hours ago, Crashdown117 said:

 

when i ser gender recognition to recognize sims by  gender identity i can seth both gender and sex roles normally. but when it is by sex identity i cant.

 

 

[Crashdown117]

7 hours ago, arak2 said:

im fine with them rejecting becuase of attractiveness.  problem is the gender incompabilities.

Sorry, I misunderstood you there.

 

So what you want to do is make them stick to their gender preferences, right?

First thing to do is to make sure that the preferences are actually set the way you want them in CAS. I'm not entirely sure whether WW uses the romantic or woohoo preferences to determine if two Sims should have sex with each other, so maybe select the same options for both to be safe. Also, you should probably set them to not be exploring, so they won't be open to doing stuff that doesn't match their preferences (the game takes this setting into account, again not sure about WW).

With that in place, a gender recognition mode that is not "Anything goes" should be enough to make everything work - at least that's the way I understand it. Gender compliance will likely get it the way of things then, because e.g. a heterosexual male Sim will refuse to join sex if there is another male participant involved

It could be possible, however, that the settings to recognize males/females as both also have an effect here In that case, having both enabled would essentially be the same as "Anything goes" and you wouldn't see any difference when changing those other settings. If that is the case, try turning these two settings off, and maybe then it all goes smoothly.

 

7 hours ago, arak2 said:

when i ser gender recognition to recognize sims by  gender identity i can seth both gender and sex roles normally. but when it is by sex identity i cant.

Same for me, guess I didn't look at things properly when checking it yesterday. Means you should set it to recognition by gender identity if you want some Sims to be capable of filling all roles during sex (you'll need to deal with those individually).

[arak2]

If a sim is having sex alone (solo sex). the sim is also accepting any other sim joining.

 

but if the sims are not having sex , they will not accept sex with sims of incompatible genders (if i click in the scenario, sofa chair and request sex, for example).

 

maybe it is a mod ?

Edited March 6, 2023 by arak2

[arak2]

i did what you said regarding the gender configs. and the problem persists. another problem is that sims are not presenting the vision buffs regarding naked attractiveness (eyes wide open near naked attractive sims, for example).

Edited March 6, 2023 by arak2