Can't figure out how to increase enjoyment bar

[WhutEvar]

I understand this is a newbie question and probably answered very often, but I have been trying to make this work off an on for a month now and I just can't figure it out. My biggest problem is I can't figure out which mod is making it so the bar doesn't move, so here is my question. Which of my installed mods effect the enjoyment level/orgasm of the characters in sexual acts? Of the ones that do, WHERE in the MCM can I enable/disable them, or what is the setting called? I feel like I have looked through all my MCMs dozens of times now and I can NOT find anything at all about enjoyment or orgasms (besides in SLSO, but those don't seem to be relevant to my issue). Thank you for your help, attached is my list of mods.

hentai mod list updated.txt

Edited February 8, 2023 by WhutEvar
fucked it up

[anjenthedog]

There's a hotkey in one of the associated MCMs. Eager NPCs I think, but not sure. Set it to whatever you have that's available. it works with the shift key

 

You then have to figure out whether Shift-<hotkey> or <hotkey> alters your arousal. Once you determine that, the other one affects the **pre-selected** participant.

ex: player shift-hotkey, then npc (targeted!) is hotkey

 

use of the hotkey will deplete both magica and stamina, although how much of each depends on <some arcane magic that goes on in the background>

 

And finally, it's only active (afaik) while you are in an SL animation sequence.

 

As to which affect arousal...

 

well

SLA

SLSO

?Defeat

and that's all I can think of offhand, but I'm sure there are more.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by anjenthedog

[anjenthedog]

I forgot to add: To puppeteer arousal, (one way is to) use SLA.

 

1) Set SLA up so you have a hotkey to check arousal state

2) to adjust an NPC, target them, hit the check-arousal hotkey, then use the SLA MCM and puppeteer their arousal

3) to adjust the player, target the sky or something else that doesn't target, hit the check-arousal hotkey, then use the SLA MCM and puppeteer their arousal

 

You can use other apps to do it. I think Manipulator has some limited ability's, eager npc may have some abiltiy (at least arousal rate and preferences), etc. idk. SLA works, and others like SLSO have quasi autonomous adjustments

 

[WhutEvar]

On 2/8/2023 at 8:58 PM, anjenthedog said:

There's a hotkey in one of the associated MCMs. Eager NPCs I think, but not sure. Set it to whatever you have that's available. it works with the shift key

 

You then have to figure out whether Shift-<hotkey> or <hotkey> alters your arousal. Once you determine that, the other one affects the **pre-selected** participant.

ex: player shift-hotkey, then npc (targeted!) is hotkey

 

use of the hotkey will deplete both magica and stamina, although how much of each depends on <some arcane magic that goes on in the background>

 

And finally, it's only active (afaik) while you are in an SL animation sequence.

 

As to which affect arousal...

 

well

SLA

SLSO

?Defeat

and that's all I can think of offhand, but I'm sure there are more.

 

 

 

 

I sorta got busy and forgot about this, sorry. Anyways, I dont have Eager NPCs, and I'm generally a little confused. I still don't know where the hotkey you are talking about is, and the way some mods described it made me think the PC would gain arousal on their own, such as in rape scenarios. Or is arousal different from enjoyment? I am having a hard time telling whether or not alot of these things are broken because of mod incompatibilities or if im doing something wrong in the game (or I am just plain dumb), so let me try to get some clarification by asking a specific question. 

For a female PC, should a specific setting be turned on so that, during rape scenes, they gain arousal (or excitement or whatever it is).

[anjenthedog]

Yes, you're right. they do gain arousal on their own. And there is an optional button provided with optional mod Eager NPCs  (see my correction post down below in the thread. the mod is ABBA, not ENPC) that provides a manually triggered arousal increase for arousal to the targeted NPC.

 

I'm not sure about them gaining arousal when being raped. Possibly. If you check your associated sex-mod MCMs, you might find a checkbox for that. I'm not sure.

Edited March 9, 2023 by anjenthedog
lies lies it's all lies I tell ya (fixed that.. in red)

[WhutEvar]

On 3/2/2023 at 6:47 PM, anjenthedog said:

Yes, you're right. they do gain arousal on their own. And there is an optional button provided with optional mod Eager NPCs that provides a manually triggered arousal increase for arousal to the targeted NPC.

 

I'm not sure about them gaining arousal when being raped. Possibly. If you check your associated sex-mod MCMs, you might find a checkbox for that. I'm not sure.

Thanks. Guess ill just have to spend time reading through menu's to figure it out

[anjenthedog]

SLA is where the "natural" (time based) arousal is generated. Can't recall the name of the SLA submenu, but it shows two or three values that determine your current arousal.

 

Other mods introduce other adjustments to the arousal. It depends on a given person's mod list and settings, so yeah, you kinda have to hunt around a bit. Obviously, you only have to check the MCMs for related mods, so it's not that many. Well, that is, it's not all of them.

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by anjenthedog
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[DeathApproaches]

> or if im doing something wrong in the game (or I am just plain dumb)

 

It's always possible that you're dumb, but I don't think that's it. I think you're impatient.

 

That impedes learning since you don't stick with any one thing long enough to "get" it... you're on to the next mod, OOH! That looks HAWT! etc.

 

You just want it to work, and if it works - accidentally or with skill and effort or someone else did it for you -  it doesn't matter, "whoohoo! it works again!

I'm done with the non-gaming, technical crap!" If you try to not be like that, I bet you'll grasp the mod stuff a lot easier!

 

> Which of my installed mods effect the enjoyment level/orgasm of the characters in sexual acts?

 

SL Separate Orgasm is both the enjoyment edging/denial mini-game, and also lets you make changes to arousal and expression.

it's under General -> Aggressor/Victim orgasm configuration.

 

You're looking for Victim arousal gain? , last option in the section, which can be no/yes/lewd.

 

[anjenthedog]

The MCMs can be a bit confusing when first encountered (frankly  even after 3+ years, I still find myself asking "where was that command/checkbox? Oh cripes, I'm going to have to look through every gd MCM again, aren't I...", sighs with exacerbation), since their included text descriptions are most often quite brief, some are absent, and others are simply confusing. (I'll add the related MCM snapshots after this list), and most importantly, I'm elt and decrepit and can't photographically memorize anything anymore. Much as I wish I had that kind of memory

 

1. I found no arousal related entries in Defeat's MCM. I was wrong on that one.  Or mistaken, or I'm mistaken now...idk..
2. Blush While Aroused has an assignable hotkey for supposedly raising the player arousal over time. It doesn't work "as advertised" on my game, but for completeness sake I'm noting it.
3. The Manipulator offers an an assignable "Strip NPC" hotkey (I know, not directly related but close enough for horseshoes and hand-grenades)
4. Sex Lab (I'm on beta 8, can't say for the newer version) offers no direct arousal adjustments, but it does contain a variety of assignable hotkeys for repositioning actors in related animation sequences and otherwise dynamically adjusting the animations
5. Sex Lab Aroused (SLA) offers a hotkey for reading a targeted NPC's arousal state, and a submenu for adjusting a targeted NPC (or player if nothing is targeted or in the "targeted NPC" buffer). Since SLA is intended to offer a "real time natural arousal level" most of what it does is in the background.
6. Eager NPCs allows only direct adjustment of targeted NPC gender, and SLA control loop variables. It does not, afaik offer a direct arousal adjustment. I was wrong there. (see my opening remarks. 3 years in and I still get confused)
7. SLSO offers two (2) assignable hotkeys for direct adjustment of in-situ enjoyment, which somehow or another (empirically speaking) can dynamically influence arousal state. It also offers a myriad of other settings that affect arousal state.
8. see post after this.

 

Far as I can tell, at least for my mod list, those are all the ones that have merit, aside from incidentals like if you're an SLA-defined "extrovert", you might get aroused from seeing or being nude, etc.

 

My SL-ish mod list tame compared to some, (and prolly racey to others) so idk much more.

 

BWA

 

Eager NPCs

 

Manipulator

 

SexLab

 

SLA arousal check hotkey

 

SLA direct adjustment of targeted NPC

 

SLSO (see hotkeys section right side)

 

(sorry was in a hurry and didn't highlite each noted element on most of these...)

 

Edited March 9, 2023 by anjenthedog
another added explanation

[anjenthedog]

AH... I'm an idiot... all that and I forgot to include the one that actually has an assignable hotkey for raising the arousal of a targeted NPC.

 

ABBA

 

Note that the hotkey appears to work whether or not the mod is active. Or at least it does in my game. Hmm I should say I did  have it enabled, then disabled it so I could get a handle on my static body's actually shape, so  maybe better said, it works after first having the mod enabled (via MCM I don't mean mod manager)

Edited March 9, 2023 by anjenthedog

[WhutEvar]

On 3/9/2023 at 12:47 PM, anjenthedog said:

AH... I'm an idiot... all that and I forgot to include the one that actually has an assignable hotkey for raising the arousal of a targeted NPC.

 

ABBA

 

Note that the hotkey appears to work whether or not the mod is active. Or at least it does in my game. Hmm I should say I did  have it enabled, then disabled it so I could get a handle on my static body's actually shape, so  maybe better said, it works after first having the mod enabled (via MCM I don't mean mod manager)

Wow holy crap, thanks for the help. For some reason, the notifications never said I got more responses so sorry for the late response, thanks a ton!

[WhutEvar]

On 3/7/2023 at 9:17 PM, DeathApproaches said:

> or if im doing something wrong in the game (or I am just plain dumb)

 

It's always possible that you're dumb, but I don't think that's it. I think you're impatient.

 

That impedes learning since you don't stick with any one thing long enough to "get" it... you're on to the next mod, OOH! That looks HAWT! etc.

 

You just want it to work, and if it works - accidentally or with skill and effort or someone else did it for you -  it doesn't matter, "whoohoo! it works again!

I'm done with the non-gaming, technical crap!" If you try to not be like that, I bet you'll grasp the mod stuff a lot easier!

 

> Which of my installed mods effect the enjoyment level/orgasm of the characters in sexual acts?

 

SL Separate Orgasm is both the enjoyment edging/denial mini-game, and also lets you make changes to arousal and expression.

it's under General -> Aggressor/Victim orgasm configuration.

 

You're looking for Victim arousal gain? , last option in the section, which can be no/yes/lewd.

 

Yeah I suppose you are right, though it was less one at a time more as it was all at once. I am not usually a modded game type of guy unless its an incredibly simple one (like replacing voice files and thats it), so I probably went a bit crazy. That was one of the things I was looking for, so thanks for your help (though sadly it was already set to yes so it's not my issue).

[WhutEvar]

I guess I should make sure im not misunderstanding something here, these are the bars that I cant seem to make move: 

I can hide it with SLSO's "hide widget" key, but the "increase enjoyment" key doesnt do anything when on default, and when changed to another button it just makes the characters move slightly for some reason (and still doesnt raise the bars). These should move on their own if the player is the victim and the NPC is the aggressor, right?

Edited March 17, 2023 by WhutEvar

[anjenthedog]

They *should have content while you're in an animation with a partner(s).

 

There is an "enjoyment" hotkey defined somewhere, which is tied to magic and stamina. Zero magic, no power for enjoyment key. Zero stamina, no oomph  for enjoyment key to do anything with.

 

Each hit of the enjoyment key costs a little magica and a bit of stamina (situation dependent?), so magic regen rings and amulets (or increased natural player regen) might have some advantage, idk.

 

To the best of my knowledge, the enjoyment key is active only during an active animation sequence.

Edited March 17, 2023 by anjenthedog

[WhutEvar]

Wow am I a dipshit. The problem was that my sexlab seperate orgasms was above sexlab framework on the load order. Putting it below fixed the problem instantly. So sorry for all the trouble and thanks for the help.

[JohnLongSchlong69]

On 6/29/2023 at 6:16 PM, WhutEvar said:

Wow am I a dipshit. The problem was that my sexlab seperate orgasms was above sexlab framework on the load order. Putting it below fixed the problem instantly. So sorry for all the trouble and thanks for the help.

What di you mean by above in the load order? I have the same issue and could fix it by managing rules