TheJuice Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 I've recently installed better cities and its awesome, but my imperial city market district a bit funky. Stair are raised beyond use and the gates blocking the pond have crevasses that the beggars keep falling in. I followed the little message thing on the floor of the market district and place my better cities just before the bashed patch but that didn't work, but then I noticed a familiar little purple square. Screen shot 6 shows the little offender. Whenever I install lovers and plugins (or maybe the DMRA bouncing but conversions store maybe, but I removed it and rebuilt my bashed patch and it remains in-game) I get this little square by the gate. I always left it since it didn't bother much but with better cities I think it's culprit for the issues in the other two screens.
fejeena Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 If you have a Mod that change the imperial city market district in your Load order after Better cities then your market district is "destroyed". Most Mods use the Vanilla cities, so the part of the City the Mod used is changed back to vanilla City. Your Better cities ESPs must be after clothes mods with a chest/shop in the City and Lovers Mods in your Load order. Only these Lovers Mod should be after Better cities LoversMB2.espLovers3dorgasmMB2.espLoversIdleAnimsPriority.espLovers3dorgasm.espLoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
TheJuice Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 Yeah I got it pretty much loaded last in the order. 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] 04 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.3.3] 05 Lovers with PK.esm 06 TamagoClub.esm 07 HiyokoClub.esm 08 LoversCreature.esm 09 DA Run Fatigue.esm 0A Chanpon.esm 0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.4] 0C UOPS Additional Changes.esp 0D UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.2] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp 10 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34] 11 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34] 12 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34] 13 Better Cities .esp [Version 5.3.0] 14 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp [Version 5.3.0] 15 Star's Rest.esp [Version 3.02] 16 Star's Rest - AN Patch.esp [Version 3.02] 17 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 18 Bloodrayne Armor.esp 19 AAbuiesdaqun.esp 1A Priestess_of_Dibella_HGEC.esp 1B CSRBW.esp 1C Cute Summer Wears.esp 1D BountyHunter.esp 1E Black Leather Outfits.esp 1F Witch LongDress.esp 20 FuroGeneratorTrap.esp ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 21 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 22 FF00_SA-LightArmor.esp 23 1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp 24 Colourwheels Sexy Holy Knight Armor.esp 25 Werewolf-Legends.esp 26 MaternityClothes.esp 27 Vanilla Maternity Clothes.esp 28 Aspiria.esp 29 FinalFantasy.esp 2A DMwardropemerged.esp 2B goldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.esp 2C GoldenCrest.esp 2D MountainShackR13.esp 2E Knights.esp ** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp 2F Better daedric shrines full.esp 30 HackdirtAlive.esp 31 Villages1.1.esp 32 Camping.esp 33 Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 2.9] 34 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.2.1] 35 DA Sprint.esp 36 DA Fatigued Running.esp ++ DA ReducedBackwardsRunningSpeed.esp 37 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 38 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 39 xulTheHeath.esp 3A XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] 3B xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 3C xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] 3D xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] 3E xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] 3F xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] 40 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] 41 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] 42 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 43 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 44 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] 45 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 46 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3] ++ goldenarchery-rollinghills fix.esp 47 xulPantherRiver.esp 48 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 49 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] 4A xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] 4B xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] 4C xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 4D Villages-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 4E xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] 4F xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] 50 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] 51 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] 52 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] 53 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] 54 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] ++ BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 2.0] 55 GoldenCrest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp [Version 1.0] 56 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 57 MCS extension.esp 58 WindowLightingSystem.esp 59 TamagoBreak.esp 5A TamagoNews.esp 5B TamagoShop.esp 5C TamagoTopic.esp 5D TamagoConfide.esp 5E LoversTamagoClub.esp 5F LoversEncounter.esp 60 HiyokoGenerator.esp 61 TamagoSetBody.esp 62 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 63 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 64 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] 65 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp 66 LoversRaperS.esp 67 LoversBed.esp 68 LoversPayBandit.esp 69 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 6A LoversBitch.esp 6B LoversCreature.esp 6C LoversSlaveTrader.esp 6D LSTBravilUnderground.esp 6E LSTaddonInH.esp 6F LoversImmoralSisters.esp 70 LoversImmoralGuards.esp 71 PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp ++ PSE-HackdirtAlive-Patch.esp 72 PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp 73 LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 74 LoversCalm.esp 75 LoversNTRburglar.esp 76 LoversBrute.esp 77 LoversChorus.esp 78 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp ++ Alternative Start for Better Cities Fix.esp 79 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 7A RomancingAhnassi.esp 7B eyja.esp 7C MidasSpells.esp 7D SetBody.esp 7E zzEstrus.esp 7F DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 80 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 81 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 82 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 83 Lop-ears Elf.esp 84 Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp 85 UL Beaches of Cyrodiil - DMwardrobe patch.esp ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp 86 Frill Short Dress and Halloween Backpack.esp 87 Classic Witch.esp 88 DMRAdarklightmithrilarmor.esp 89 Ogre armor.esp 8A Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 5.3.0] ++ Better Cities - All Natural.esp ++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 5.1.2] ++ Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 5.1.2] 8B Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 5.3.0] 8C Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 5.3.0] ++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0] ++ Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp ++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0] 8D Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp 8E Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.3.0] 8F Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.3.0] 90 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 91 MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp 92 LoversMB2.esp 93 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 94 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 95 Lovers3dorgasm.esp 96 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Can yuo see anything that could cause the issue? edit: I think I see the esp file I missed near the top I'll move it right now and check it out~
gregathit Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Don't forget that you need to rebuild your bashed patch after installing a mod like Better Cites. Since your bashed patch is lower than the Better Cities plugins it (the bashed patch) is overwriting the changes. Remember to disable all lovers\tamago plugins first before rebuilding your bashed patch.
TheJuice Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 Yup~ I always uncheck the lovers mods and tamango bits too. I think this may be a clothing thing now which sucks, cause I may have to disable most the unique clothing and just install the DMRA replacer, I just wish every single piece of clothing wasn't so silly lookin Has anyone else ran into that square before?
fejeena Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Your ScreenShot6.bmp is a mesh with missing texture. I do not use bashed patch. Are the Mods bashed in Load order? So Cloth/armor Mods that change cities did not mess up your cities? But I think your Problem is MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp, it change Imperial City, Market District (cell: ICMarketDistrict04), Imperial City, Temple District (cell:ICTempleDistrict01 and ICTempleDistrict03) , Imperial City, Arena District (cell: ICArena06). So these cells are Vanilla if you load MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp after Better cities. Edit: and it changed Bruma (cell: BrumaExterior05) and a lot of world cells.
TheJuice Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 I don't think it's monster girl but I'll give it a shot. the reason for thinking so is that I recall seeing the square before I even heard of the Monster-CoC. Just give me a sec and I'll be back with the results~ Should I bash the clothing mods? or disable them before hand? I don't quite get the questions Edit: DAMN you were totally right! Fuuuuuunk that's too bad I liked how many crazy ass monsters there were and all the other cool crazy shit. Thanks though, now all that's ahead of me is choosing between the two. Edit 2: So wait, if I load monster-coc above better cities will that potentially fix the issue as well?
fejeena Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Yes Monster gils above Bettercities should work. And do not ask me about bashed patch, I've never done a bashed patch.
TheJuice Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 Radical thanks Fajeena, for the help and all your awesome contributions. Now i can go play in style
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