CTDs for unknown reasons, after installing RHH and Armor mods

[HentaiProdigy]

Hi again guys!

 

Thought I'd make a new topic for this one, since it's not really about getting LPK to work, but rather something else.

So, as mentioned, I got everything to work, and then decided to add some stuff on. Now, the game CTDs at the loading screen again. I'm guessing it has to do with my load order, OR the new plugin.

What I added:

The SetBody mod. It still worked great after using this one.

Pyffi High Rez textures to get the Diablo skins to show up. Still worked great.

VipCxj's Real High Heels. This one had a plugin I had to add, and some ridiculously confusing instructions about adding code and whatnot into ini and dll files. Naturally, I did not screw around with that, but rather just threw it in there. Big mistake?

A TON of different armor sets, as well as replacers for vanilla armor. The ones I used are handpicked from these threads: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10876-nephenee13s-dmra-conversions/ and http://www.loverslab.com/topic/1262-patzys-dmra-lab/

The vanilla replacers are from this mod: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/42033/?

 

And that's all. Now, I'm guessing that texture and mesh substitutes shouldn't cause crashes, but are more likely to cause graphical glitches and nothings (like the Diablo skin for the High Rez pack).

So my personal conclusion is that it's the fault of VipCxj's Real High Heels. That, or my load order for it all, which is relatively all over the place with all the new armor esp's.

 

Load order:

 

Oblivion.esm
LoversCreature.esm
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
BreakUndies.esm
Chanpon.esm
ShieldOnBack.esm

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Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
UOPS Additional Changes.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
Populated Prisons.esp
AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp
AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp
Smarter Bandits.esp
Bandit Hideouts.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

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DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
WomanWarriorset.esp
DMRA BBB Woman Warrior Set.esp
Diva.esp
Blue and White.esp
Elwing.esp
MechaFox.esp
New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp
BlessedMageKnightDress.esp
DMRASexyGhostArmor.esp
TACMTifaLovehart.esp
Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp
Birdy.esp
R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp
Sexy Ghost Armor.esp
HentaiSeraphimArmour.esp
Dynasty.esp
FWAD.esp
MakotoOutfit.esp
GGBDDCW.esp
Mandorla.esp
Neo's Morrigan.esp
Dungeon Explorer.esp
Tyrael Armor.esp
Iron Maiden Set.esp
OHTeMheavy2.esp
SwordDancerRemodel.esp

AncientGuardianRobe.esp

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Lovers with PK.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
Lovers with PK Extender.esp
LoversSkirtFlipper.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversProstitute.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversBed.esp
LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
LoversSoundCreature.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversJoburg.esp
LoversImmoralGuards.esp
LoversPayBandit.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LoversAphrodisia.esp
LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp
LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
LSTaddonInH.esp
LoversMotionsNT.esp

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SetBody.esp
AutoSetBody.esp
Creature_Intensity_v1.5.esp
Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp
EnchantmentRestore.esp
DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
x117race.esp
Lop-ears Elf.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

 

So what could be the problem? High Heels? Load order? Or did I actually manage to screw the game up with meshes and textures?

 

Also worth noting is that I tried unchecking the two High Heels esp's and deleting the High Heels resource plugin, and it still crashed. Of course, the meshes and textures were still present. Stupid? I don't know.

 

Let's hope I (we) get this solved tonight, since I'm going away tomorrow and won't be able to play/chat with you guys until Sunday :<

Thanks in advance, and I'm looking forward to a few additional hours of facepalming!

 

Edit:

Hopefully made the load order less of a headache to look at D:

[fejeena]

The Hight heels meshes can only cause trouble when they replace vanilla shoes/boots.

Some of your lovers mods are not in right load order Position. see example load order here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/

Some files are loaded befor their master file.

 

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm

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Sort your Lovers Mod like in the example load order ! !

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LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

And delete this "LoversMotionsNT.esp" ! ! !  IT IS USELESS ! ! !

 

Are you shure the "Birdy.esp" is a no High Heels Version? If it is a hight heels Version it needs "VipCxj_HighHeels.esp" master file or the game CTD.

Control all your armor/clothes Mods and delete all High heels Versions.

 

Edit: MakotoOutfit.esp is also a High Heels Mod (Needs "VipCxj_HighHeels.esp" or game CTD)

 

Edit: Where did you have the "VipCxj_HighHeels.esp" placed? BOSS placed it after DLCSpellTomes.esp.

If you had it under a High Heels Mod the game CTD (missing Master file)

[HentaiProdigy]

Update:

 

It does NOT have to do with High Heels!!!

I tried shutting all the mods off, except for the vanilla armors, and it worked. I shut the game down, and tried reactivating High Heels, Diva, Makoto, Morrigan, Birdy, Blue and White, and the game started again. In other words, it's one of the other ones that's not working properly. Could it be that two or more sets have the same location, whereas the chests or NPCs clash with eachother? The investigation goes on!

 

To answer your question, I've moved it to the very top, but it still crashed when I had them all activated. But as mentioned, THEY now work. The problem lies with one of the other sets. Experimenting with activations right now.

[fejeena]

Did you sort your Lovers Mods?

LoversCreature.esm have Master file Lovers with PK.esm. So LoversCreature.esm must be below Lovers with PK.esm in Load order or CTD.

Sort all your Lovers Mods like in the example Load order ! Even if your game does not Crash, Lovers is not working properly with wrong Load order.

[HentaiProdigy]

Okay, I've narrowed down the possible culprits to the following sets:

 

Tifa Lockhart!

Woman Warrior Set!

Sexy Ghost Armor!

Mandorla!

Ancient Guardian Robe!

 

One of these is the cause behind the infamous CTD massacre. Stay tuned for more!

 

Edit:

I've sorted the Lovers mods that I have like the example you gave me. I obviously don't have all of those mods, but I did what I could with what I had, and that should be enough, no?

[fejeena]

Of course you do not Need all Lovers Mods, sort the Mods you have like in the Load order.

 

Must be like this, or CTD

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp  (Master of LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp)
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

Your Problem is TACMTifaLovehart.esp it is a companion Mod and needs CM Partners.esm (Master file)

Delete TACMTifaLovehart.esp, and your game should work.

[HentaiProdigy]

Okay, so the case is solved! The culprit is Tifa Lockhart, or as the mod is so cheesily named; Tife Loveheart!

Why it made my game crash is something that don't know. At all. But the game loads just fine now, with ALL armor sets loaded except for Tifa.

 

Haha, thanks! I just found out which one it was, I just had no idea why. Thanks a bunch for telling me though!

Oh, and by the way... have I told you I love you? Yes, I mean you Fejeena. You're always around. You're always so very patient, so friendly. You're a real sweetheart, you know that?

 

Okay, so seriously. Tifa is a no no without CM Partners, which I didn't have. Good stuff! Thanks a bunch for helping out once again!

[gregathit]

Depending on what Tifa you are talking about I have one in the BU armors thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8661-bu-armors-compilation/

 

RHH is not needed for any of the armors, as I don't much like the real high heels system.

[fejeena]

Birdy.esp and MakotoOutfit.esp need Real high heels System. And TACMTifaLovehart.esp is the CM companion Mod ( I tested it last year).