A refuge for those who want to alter their tongues

[SAFMeiko]

What is this place?

 

A thread that has been raised as a problem definition since the WW update six months ago, but has not been resolved and no one has created it, leaving it up to others who will solve the problem.

I created this as a separate thread to resolve this, as I was having trouble finding it in a search.
Because I want my sims to have a variety of tongues.

 

To preface, there is this issue of creating a tongue object.
Extracting it from WW data requires specialized knowledge and does not work because it is fragmented.
When I try to clone a tongue object from S4S I get the following error

 

Spoiler

The Sims 4 Studio - Version 3.1.6.3
System.AggregateException: One or more errors have occurred. ---> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an object instance.
    at S4Studio.Core.CloneEngine.CloneModel(CloneObjectOptions opts, IResourceProvider game, Boolean& swatchable, Model model, IDBPFPackage result, String hash_salt, String original_variant, ObjectDefinitionResource master_objd, List`1 variants)
    at S4Studio.Core.CloneEngine.CloneObj(IDBPFPackage result, String hash_salt, CloneObjectOptions opts, IStringTableCache global_stbl, IResourceProvider game, Sims4FileTable game_filetable, UInt64 instance, String creator, Boolean& swatchable)
    at S4Studio.Shared.ObjectFeatureViewModel.Clone(IDBPFPackage package, String hash, IEnumerable`1 selected_prototypes)
    Location S4Studio.Shared.FeatureViewModel.<>c__DisplayClass28_0.<CreateItem>b__0()
    at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.InnerInvoke()
    at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.Execute()
    --- end of inner exception stack trace ---
---> (inner exception #0) System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an object instance.
    at S4Studio.Core.CloneEngine.CloneModel(CloneObjectOptions opts, IResourceProvider game, Boolean& swatchable, Model model, IDBPFPackage result, String hash_salt, String original_variant, ObjectDefinitionResource master_objd, List`1 variants)
    at S4Studio.Core.CloneEngine.CloneObj(IDBPFPackage result, String hash_salt, CloneObjectOptions opts, IStringTableCache global_stbl, IResourceProvider game, Sims4FileTable game_filetable, UInt64 instance, String creator, Boolean& swatchable)
    at S4Studio.Shared.ObjectFeatureViewModel.Clone(IDBPFPackage package, String hash, IEnumerable`1 selected_prototypes)
    Location S4Studio.Shared.FeatureViewModel.<>c__DisplayClass28_0.<CreateItem>b__0()
    at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.InnerInvoke()
    where System.Threading.Tasks.Task.Execute()<---

I have filed this issue, invested in patreon and commented directly to Khlas, but at this point I still can't find a way to resolve this issue.
It seems that adding a bone to the object and creating a new one with this as a reference would work, but I am not good at English and don't know how to create an object that way. (CAS could easily be created by extracting someone else's data and creating it as I see fit).

 

I would appreciate it if anyone who can create a sample to solve this, or any modelers or data creators who are having the same problem, could do the same here.
 

 

You can see how it has worked in the past in my main thread.

 

[lucifeh]

The problems I encountered while trying to make a piercing tongue is that there is already a tongue in the new rig, if you attach to that, there are 3 places, on 2 of them you get floating piercing, the same problem we are having with the tongue, if you stick to the third it just disappears and you can only see in pov...

 

I was thinking just now, maybe if you get the mesh and attach to the 3 places, maybe it will work? But how it would work? If you cut the mesh it will just be the same problem as above... Idk...

Edited January 6, 2023 by lucifeh

[SAFMeiko]

11 hours ago, lucifeh said:

The problems I encountered while trying to make a piercing tongue is that there is already a tongue in the new rig, if you attach to that, there are 3 places, on 2 of them you get floating piercing, the same problem we are having with the tongue, if you stick to the third it just disappears and you can only see in pov...

 

I was thinking just now, maybe if you get the mesh and attach to the 3 places, maybe it will work? But how it would work? If you cut the mesh it will just be the same problem as above... Idk...

Yeah, I remember trying to force it on with CAS and getting that phenomenon. Perhaps it is a limitation on the Sims side, but the problem is that I still don't know the cause. I feel that if this is solved, at least the problem of wearing a piercing on the tongue can be solved.

I tried to figure out why this would be, but when exporting the bones for this animation in the S4S mod, the rig was able to recognize the penis, but not the tongue. The tongue is usually no longer functional in CAS, so even if I could force the tongue to be introduced here, it would float away in normal life.
So I think it would have to be created as an object. So if anyone knows how to do that object, please let me know in this thread. I want a tongue like hentai dojin ...

 

[TURBODRIVER]

Hey! I don't recall you messaging me about it, but I can tell you that more tongue options are coming. The reason more options aren't yet available is the same reason you're struggling with doing it yourself. To circumvent the game limitations, the tongue had to be reimplemented in a new way. This new way is simply not handled by Sims 4 Studio and it wasn't made using it. There isn't really much I can say about handling this right now, but new universal tools for all creators are in works that will be able to handle it, and more, that Sims 4 Studio struggles with.

I will do my best to have more tongue variants available as soon as possible, and a new tool to manage this and more will be out eventually too, but I don't have control over it.

[lucifeh]

29 minutes ago, TURBODRIVER said:

 new universal tools for all creators are in works that will be able to handle it, and more, that Sims 4 Studio struggles with.

[SAFMeiko]

On 1/8/2023 at 1:24 AM, TURBODRIVER said:

Hey! I don't recall you messaging me about it, but I can tell you that more tongue options are coming. The reason more options aren't yet available is the same reason you're struggling with doing it yourself. To circumvent the game limitations, the tongue had to be reimplemented in a new way. This new way is simply not handled by Sims 4 Studio and it wasn't made using it. There isn't really much I can say about handling this right now, but new universal tools for all creators are in works that will be able to handle it, and more, that Sims 4 Studio struggles with.

I will do my best to have more tongue variants available as soon as possible, and a new tool to manage this and more will be out eventually too, but I don't have control over it.

So my take on this is...

• I have posted a message on the WW forum regarding tongues, in case you are wondering. The reason you don't remember me is because I was so unpopular.
• . there is no way to alter the tongue in its current state.
• I also use S4E. But is it also currently impossible to create using S4E? I guess.
• I think I will have to wait for quite a long time for this statement.

I have abandoned my efforts to work hard because I don't have enough revenue for everything, but he has enough revenue existing to eat, so I hope he will manage to get over it in the near future...hopefully before people lose interest from Sims 4....

[TURBODRIVER]

2 hours ago, Super anal fucker meiko said:

So my take on this is...

• I have posted a message on the WW forum regarding tongues, in case you are wondering. The reason you don't remember me is because I was so unpopular.
• . there is no way to alter the tongue in its current state.
• I also use S4E. But is it also currently impossible to create using S4E? I guess.
• I think I will have to wait for quite a long time for this statement.

I have abandoned my efforts to work hard because I don't have enough revenue for everything, but he has enough revenue existing to eat, so I hope he will manage to get over it in the near future...hopefully before people lose interest from Sims 4....

 

Popular? I meant you sending me a private message or email, I read them all and react or respond to them when needed. Don't be shy, you can always send me a message. I can't read the entire forum, so if you made a post somewhere, I most likely never seen it.

 

That's correct, as I explained, there is no way to modify the tongue unless you make a custom tool for it. A new creation tool is in works to handle tongues and everything else, but I don't control over when it will be finished, I'm not making it.

 

[lucifeh]

52 minutes ago, TURBODRIVER said:

 

Popular? I meant you sending me a private message or email, I read them all and react or respond to them when needed. Don't be shy, you can always send me a message. I can't read the entire forum, so if you made a post somewhere, I most likely never seen it.

 

That's correct, as I explained, there is no way to modify the tongue unless you make a custom tool for it. A new creation tool is in works to handle tongues and everything else, but I don't control over when it will be finished, I'm not making it.

 

Do you have +/- an ETA my dude?

[Khlas]

On 1/9/2023 at 2:23 PM, TURBODRIVER said:

 

Popular? I meant you sending me a private message or email, I read them all and react or respond to them when needed. Don't be shy, you can always send me a message. I can't read the entire forum, so if you made a post somewhere, I most likely never seen it.

 

That's correct, as I explained, there is no way to modify the tongue unless you make a custom tool for it. A new creation tool is in works to handle tongues and everything else, but I don't control over when it will be finished, I'm not making it.

 

actually there is a way to modify it with S4PE, which is an old tool. I did a successful clone tongue object but just completely forget about it. However it’s a bit difficult so would be easier with the tool that is being worked on from what I know too. 

[Khlas]

On 1/7/2023 at 3:29 AM, Super anal fucker meiko said:

Yeah, I remember trying to force it on with CAS and getting that phenomenon. Perhaps it is a limitation on the Sims side, but the problem is that I still don't know the cause. I feel that if this is solved, at least the problem of wearing a piercing on the tongue can be solved.

I tried to figure out why this would be, but when exporting the bones for this animation in the S4S mod, the rig was able to recognize the penis, but not the tongue. The tongue is usually no longer functional in CAS, so even if I could force the tongue to be introduced here, it would float away in normal life.
So I think it would have to be created as an object. So if anyone knows how to do that object, please let me know in this thread. I want a tongue like hentai dojin ...

 

I know how obviously but trust me you want to wait for that tool, it’ll be way easier and done in one click. 
 

Blame s4s that think an object can only have a specific rig structure so it can’t calculate others structures correctly and it mess them up. I could write a tutorial on how to create it from scratch but I think creator will not be interested by it and at best it will make them want to stay away from creating tongues. Why? Because a lot of steps can be skipped with scripts and tools. So it’s better to wait for said tool and be patient.

 

People will not lose interest in sims 4 at least for sex mods. Skyrim is an even older game with no updates and it’s still relevant to this day. 

Edited January 13, 2023 by Khlas

[SAFMeiko]

On 1/9/2023 at 10:23 PM, TURBODRIVER said:

 

Popular? I meant you sending me a private message or email, I read them all and react or respond to them when needed. Don't be shy, you can always send me a message. I can't read the entire forum, so if you made a post somewhere, I most likely never seen it.

 

That's correct, as I explained, there is no way to modify the tongue unless you make a custom tool for it. A new creation tool is in works to handle tongues and everything else, but I don't control over when it will be finished, I'm not making it.

 

 

21 hours ago, Khlas said:

I know how obviously but trust me you want to wait for that tool, it’ll be way easier and done in one click. 
 

Blame s4s that think an object can only have a specific rig structure so it can’t calculate others structures correctly and it mess them up. I could write a tutorial on how to create it from scratch but I think creator will not be interested by it and at best it will make them want to stay away from creating tongues. Why? Because a lot of steps can be skipped with scripts and tools. So it’s better to wait for said tool and be patient.

 

People will not lose interest in sims 4 at least for sex mods. Skyrim is an even older game with no updates and it’s still relevant to this day. 

Important to note that I am not a native English speaker and cannot read English. So I would not be able to decipher the script more. One of the reasons I never became a programmer or web designer.
Aside from me, this statement of yours is very important. (There are probably others who want it besides people like me who use WW in a bad way. lol)
Because the WW wiki does not clearly state that information and from that wiki I believe that the tongue could easily be created with xml and s4s (or s4pe). The other reason is that I didn't find any such statement regarding tongues in my search, so it was a black box.

 

[SilentAegis]

Who is the individual creating the tongue tool? I'd like to see how they're doing. Upon trying to find it myself, I came across a thread where it was a guy back in 2019 who supposedly planned to create fully animated body parts (chest, belly, butt, thigh, etc) using physics as well as seamless interactions and sex interactions. It reminded me a bit of OSex for Skyrim. But sadly, the project never went anywhere and Khlas has already added some of those features himself. So hopefully this person making the tongue tool is still making progress. 

 

EDIT: And for the record, even after TS5 comes out, there's a massive chance I'll still be playing TS4 and supporting modders/animators who are doing the same. I've no interest in supporting TS5 if they do any of the mistakes made with TS4 (such as chopping up expansions in TS3 into tons and tons of packs, Sims still don't have interesting personalities, content takes forever to release and when it does, it's usually half-baked and buggy, etc). And frankly, I've enough games. 

Edited February 19, 2023 by SilentAegis

[SAFMeiko]

When Khlas throws a tantrum and leaves LL, this shelter will become more lively.?

[Matthewn]

8 minutes ago, Super anal fucker meiko said:

When Khlas throws a tantrum and leaves LL, this shelter will become more lively.?

 

Damn. You guys really spend your day harassing creators, even when they kindly spend their own time to provide help.

[SAFMeiko]

21 minutes ago, Matthewn said:

 

Damn. You guys really spend your day harassing creators, even when they kindly spend their own time to provide help.

It's true that people like this user are causing khlas a lot of trouble because of this user's past behavior, but you wouldn't be aware of it.
I'm just saying the fact that it's going to be hard for me (we) to benefit because khlas has support that can work full time and won't get to it I'm just there. I hate Discord...

Edited April 4, 2023 by Super anal fucker meiko