Freeze on animation start SL

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

Hello everyone

Good morning, afternoon and everything in between

the reason for this post is that on my newest playthrough i found this bug or crash that happens when i start a Sexlab Scene on the overworld.

I can have the scenes happen normally if im on interiors, houses, cripts, ruins etc, but when i try outside the game starts the scene positioning and then the game freezes.

One thing to note is that i recently finished a male playthrough but i turned off all the mods i use when i play as male, Before i started this new female playthrough.

i have not installed any new mods, like nothing has changed and yet i dont get why im getting this new bug,crash.

Another thing is that if i open the Console while this is happening meaning right before i know the game will freeze, (the positioning Sexlab does) and close it, i do remember a line stating something about Lag ''25seconds'' followed by another of ''8seconds'' and then the animations does play normally.

anyone got any ideas, suggestions, solutions. i'll greatly apreciate.

Sorry for messy writting english is not my native lenguage

if i posted on the wrong place, Im sorry please inform me so and ill move it or delet it as nescesary

Thank you

[traison]

The thing with freezes is that they're difficult to debug unless you have previous expeirence with disassembly and debuggers. That is assuming it is actually freezing. Skyrim can sometimes appear to freeze when what has actually happened is an error popup dialog has appeared under the game window. Usually you can alt-tab your way to this, if its there.

 

But yeah, if its an actual freeze, you'd probably get this resolved much faster if you just enable the mods you disabled one by one until the problem goes away, then look into the hows and whys.

[anjenthedog]

FWIW, A lagtime 25 seconds (25000 ms)  is what I'd term as "astronomical" lag. With a reasonably recent (<5 years old), game-worthy computer, your idling lagtime should be around 80-100 milliseconds, max.

 

When my lagtime gets "out of hand" it's more like 200ms. As soon as I detect a slowdown of merit, I fast travel to a player home or to a dungeon (ie crypt, ruin., etc) and stay there for a long time to allow the games housekeeping to catch up, sometimes going as far as to perform the idle step, create a new save, jump out of game, perform a Fallrim Tools cleanup on the save, and then go back to the game.

 

And if it happens right after I install a mod, well, that's a bit easier. I either uninstall the mod, or if there's a known problem and fix, apply the fix.

 

IMO, if your lagtime is greatly increased while outside, (25000/100 = 250 times as much lag), you need to dig into the mods you're using in the outside world.

Edited November 10, 2022 by anjenthedog
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[wareware]

Try this mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77779

Increase the Max Operations Per Task to 1000 and try enabling Desync Game.GetPlayer

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

4 hours ago, traison said:

The thing with freezes is that they're difficult to debug unless you have previous expeirence with disassembly and debuggers. That is assuming it is actually freezing. Skyrim can sometimes appear to freeze when what has actually happened is an error popup dialog has appeared under the game window. Usually you can alt-tab your way to this, if its there.

 

But yeah, if its an actual freeze, you'd probably get this resolved much faster if you just enable the mods you disabled one by one until the problem goes away, then look into the hows and whys.

i do get out of skyrim to SSE to see the task manager but it always not responding on the Skyrim Status,

about mods i have not add any new, i have a specific set of mods for all my playthroughs the only thing may change between gameplays is armor mods

but even then i already have the armors that i liked and had never this problem, still i will try the turning off some mods maybe like that, thank you

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

2 hours ago, anjenthedog said:

FWIW, A lagtime 25 seconds (25000 ms)  is what I'd term as "astronomical" lag. With a reasonably recent (<5 years old), game-worthy computer, your idling lagtime should be around 80-100 milliseconds, max.

 

When my lagtime gets "out of hand" it's more like 200ms. As soon as I detect a slowdown of merit, I fast travel to a player home or to a dungeon (ie crypt, ruin., etc) and stay there for a long time to allow the games housekeeping to catch up, sometimes going as far as to perform the idle step, create a new save, jump out of game, perform a Fallrim Tools cleanup on the save, and then go back to the game.

 

And if it happens right after I install a mod, well, that's a bit easier. I either uninstall the mod, or if there's a known problem and fix, apply the fix.

 

IMO, if your lagtime is greatly increased while outside, (25000/100 = 250 times as much lag), you need to dig into the mods you're using in the outside world.

i dont think its my machine, its not top of the line but, it runs games like cyberpunk on ultra while rarely reaching 70° on either CPU or GPU, its not overclocked and i have  the game on a SSD, i did though it could be that i had to many mods but, my load Order is 113 plugin acording to vortex

and the problem started after that male playthrough. no mods have chance like at all. its the definition of from one day to another

like no joke aside from armor mods, the only mod that changes on my load order while play as either male or female is Skyrim Unhinged.

i use console kill and fallrim every couple of ingame days just to make sure it does not bloated. and this is the first time this has happened to me.

still, maybe i add something somewhere ill check maybe demonic creatures, ill check thank you for the response.

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

37 minutes ago, wareware said:

Try this mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77779

Increase the Max Operations Per Task to 1000 and try enabling Desync Game.GetPlayer

i will try this thank you.

[traison]

5 hours ago, Pavlovian Afterdark said:

One thing to note is that i recently finished a male playthrough but i turned off all the mods i use when i play as male, Before i started this new female playthrough.

 

1 hour ago, Pavlovian Afterdark said:

about mods i have not add any new

 

Never suggested you'd disable any new mods. I said ENABLE the ones you disabled, since, as you said, you disabled *some* mods and now shits broken. Makes sense no?

[anjenthedog]

4 hours ago, Pavlovian Afterdark said:

i dont think its my machine, its not top of the line but, it runs games like cyberpunk on ultra while rarely reaching 70° on either CPU or GPU, its not overclocked and i have  the game on a SSD, i did though it could be that i had to many mods but, my load Order is 113 plugin acording to vortex

and the problem started after that male playthrough. no mods have chance like at all. its the definition of from one day to another

like no joke aside from armor mods, the only mod that changes on my load order while play as either male or female is Skyrim Unhinged.

i use console kill and fallrim every couple of ingame days just to make sure it does not bloated. and this is the first time this has happened to me.

still, maybe i add something somewhere ill check maybe demonic creatures, ill check thank you for the response.

Can't recall if you have immersive creatures, but if you do, check that as well, It causes intermittent problems for me. Not sure why, but something about it regularly presents replacement creatures that have broken links to their resources, resulting in CTDs when I come into range of their existence.

 

What happens with me with lag is that if I don't do something about it right away when I get a whiff that something's wrong, it seems to escalate out of control quickly. 0,.0,0 is an area I often encounter serious problems. If I see the floating island of junk above the giant camp, I FT to a safe cell as fast as possible. If I don't, my player starts visibly lagging, and Elephant's Script Latency Tester shows the lag going up and up and up and ... ctd, (takes only a minute or so for it to destabilize, once it's apparent)  but still, the most common source for my CTDs *seems to be* those Immersive Creature related crashes.

Edited November 11, 2022 by anjenthedog

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

11 hours ago, wareware said:

Try this mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77779

Increase the Max Operations Per Task to 1000 and try enabling Desync Game.GetPlayer

This Fixed it. or maybe it was the combination of removing faster SMP as well because i notice i updated not long ago and did not remember it,

but i did noticed that with this mod when installing all the animatins was incredible faster.

 

Thank you So much!

Edited November 11, 2022 by Pavlovian Afterdark

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

9 hours ago, traison said:

 

 

Never suggested you'd disable any new mods. I said ENABLE the ones you disabled, since, as you said, you disabled *some* mods and now shits broken. Makes sense no?

yea sorry, i did not read correctly your comment. i cant enable because its basically just skyrim unhinged and beards of power. and Skyrim Unhinged for males  is imcopatible when playing as a woman. but i think it fixed thank you so much.

[Pavlovian Afterdark]

6 hours ago, anjenthedog said:

Can't recall if you have immersive creatures, but if you do, check that as well, It causes intermittent problems for me. Not sure why, but something about it regularly presents replacement creatures that have broken links to their resources, resulting in CTDs when I come into range of their existence.

 

What happens with me with lag is that if I don't do something about it right away when I get a whiff that something's wrong, it seems to escalate out of control quickly. 0,.0,0 is an area I often encounter serious problems. If I see the floating island of junk above the giant camp, I FT to a safe cell as fast as possible. If I don't, my player starts visibly lagging, and Elephant's Script Latency Tester shows the lag going up and up and up and ... ctd, (takes only a minute or so for it to destabilize, once it's apparent)  but still, the most common source for my CTDs *seems to be* those Immersive Creature related crashes.

its fixed thank to that mod that wareware linked, but i did check your suggestion as well. and i did notice that immersive creatures uses some similar models as demonic creatures, if they share the same type or script it coulda have contributed to the whole ordeal.

ill check the forum for Demonic creatures to see if anyone as well had something similar or close at some point

thank you.