Animation Issues with Devious devices

[avav2121]

Hi, I'm new to modding so sorry if I don't make any sense.

 

I have a problem where all of the devices related to restricting arms don't play correctly or seems to be overwritten by some other movement animations but I don't know which.

Situation:

 

• zbf devices work initially right after equipping but the correct animations break after a single jump. Character returns to default movement and idle animations (probably default?).

 

• Non zbf devices don't work.
  • Yokes don't respond, as if nothing was equipped. (Arms not up)
  • Armbinders "work" only in idle AND after unchecking ZAZ's "Overwrite if needed" in MCM (Arms behind but not bind when running/walking/jumping). Reloading the save is required to update this state as even after unequipping the armbinder, the animation doesn't update. (Arms remain behind when idling)

 

I've ran FNIS (Gender specific animations, Skeleton fix, TK dodge patches) then Nemesis (Gender specific animations, Jump Behavior Overhaul, Movement Behavior Overhaul, TKDodge patches)

 

(Update) I've currently uninstalled Nemesis but the problem is still here.

 

 

Both give 0 warnings and errors.

 

Can any kind soul please help me

 

My Mod list: (a big one sorry)

 

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"0448","+","BodySlide Output"
"0449","+","SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6"
"0450","+","SexLab sslAnimationSlots SE"
"0451","+","FeetLoversByMojitoSLAL1.3SE"
"0452","+","ZAP 8+"
"0453","+","RohZima Animation ZZ"
"0454","+","WetFunctionRedux SE"
"0455","+","Patched SE SL TOOLS Updated"
"0456","+","BBLS"
"0457","+","Bathing Beauties or Beefcake Luxury Suite - Deluxe Female NPCs"
"0458","+","Underground Bathhouse and Paradise Valley by Andragon"
"0459","+","Elysium Estate SSE"
"0460","+","Spank That Ass SE v4.8 BETA (27-Apr-2021)"
"0461","+","DF CBBE Whore Armor Meshes + Bodyslide SE"
"0462","+","DF Spank SLAL mini-pack - SE"
"0463","+","Hydra_Slavegirls_SSE_v1.0"
"0464","+","Hydra Slavegirls facegen"
"0465","+","A Chamodnge of Face (Face Sculptor's Racemenu)"
"0467","+","FNIS Output"
"0468","+","Nemesis Output"
"0469","+","Project New Reign - Nemesis Unlimited Behavior Engine"
"0470","+","PresetChar"

 

Edited November 9, 2022 by avav2121

[Nepyiswaifu]

Me too i learn some more tho to help out sorry cant be any help rn

[Shadowbroker3495]

4 hours ago, avav2121 said:

Hi, I'm new to modding so sorry if I don't make any sense.

 

I have a problem where all of the devices related to restricting arms don't play correctly or seems to be overwritten by some other movement animations but I don't know which.

Unless you are very experienced modder, you should not use both FNIS and Nemesis. Try disabling Nemesis and all related mods and test it again.

 

[avav2121]

On 11/6/2022 at 4:30 PM, Shadowbroker3495 said:

Unless you are very experienced modder, you should not use both FNIS and Nemesis. Try disabling Nemesis and all related mods and test it again.

 

I've tried completely removing Nemesis as you suggested but nothing changed... I was initially suspecting some movement/jump animation replaced DD's animations but I checked my list and can't seem to find anything else besides the ones that use Nemesis (Overhauls), which I've removed already...

 

Perhaps the movement animations for DD are missing?

 

Edited November 9, 2022 by avav2121

[Shadowbroker3495]

16 hours ago, avav2121 said:

Perhaps the movement animations for DD are missing?

Yeah, for NPC's in armbinders/yokes the movement animation is missing. They move around with free arms and go back into bound position when standing idle.

 

[avav2121]

1 hour ago, Shadowbroker3495 said:

Yeah, for NPC's in armbinders/yokes the movement animation is missing. They move around with free arms and go back into bound position when standing idle.

 

 

Well the problem is NPC's walking animations with yokes seem to work. From one of the mods i got (forgot the name), there are slaves on the streets with yokes and their arms are in the correct position. The incorrect animations are all on my character, which is why I'm confused...

[Shadowbroker3495]

1 hour ago, avav2121 said:

 

Well the problem is NPC's walking animations with yokes seem to work. From one of the mods i got (forgot the name), there are slaves on the streets with yokes and their arms are in the correct position. The incorrect animations are all on my character, which is why I'm confused...

Except for a short moment, typical while loading save game, i've never seen armbinder/yoke animations not working properly for PC.

 

From your mod list i can see that your are using about the same DD mods as i do.

 

Something is disturbing animation and my guess from your mod list would be DAR. Try temporarily to disable it and related animations to see if it makes a difference.

 

Some comments to your mod list:

 

On 11/6/2022 at 4:37 AM, avav2121 said:

"0427","+","Deviously Cursed Loot"

When using this mod bound NPC girls are walking around with free hands in my game. They are only bound when stading idle.

 

 

On 11/6/2022 at 4:37 AM, avav2121 said:

"0391","+","Sexlab Fill Her Up Baka Edition"

Be careful with deflation animations from this mod. Can break sex animations. Usually i disable animations to avoid it. I also have a bug that PC sometimes doesn't complete deflation animation automatically, same can happen to NPC that is then stuck in a crouched position. I have to press either console key or ESC for PC to let it complete.

 

 

On 11/6/2022 at 4:37 AM, avav2121 said:

"0395","+","Sexlab LightMeUp SE"

This mod can cause crashes.

 

 

On 11/6/2022 at 4:37 AM, avav2121 said:

"0390","+","Dripping when aroused"

Notice that this mod has a bug. In Blue Palace in Solitude you will get a flashing PC. Disabling drip function solves that problem while in that location. 

 

 

On 11/6/2022 at 4:37 AM, avav2121 said:

"0410","+","Deviously Enslaved Continued SE v"

Note that this mod is very script heavy. You run a lot of scripted mods so you could run into problems with crashes or weird functionality.

 

 

You are running multiple defeat mods, like Baka and Naked. You probably should only use 1.

 

I don't know how you built your mod list but a good strategy is to only enable/install a few mods at a time. Test everything carefully before adding more mods. If you suddenly get a problem, then you know that most likely it was caused by the latest added mods. 

 

And finally you could consider to reduce the number mods by not using all mods for every playthrough. For example, do you really want/need devious devices for every playthrough? Just a suggestion to consider more themed playthroughs. Some people play for 100's of hours in the same game. Personally i only to play 20-50 hours then i choose a different mod setup. With limited number of mods (for me about 300) the game works much better and is very stable. But there is no right or wrong here. Just something to consider.

 

[avav2121]

4 hours ago, Shadowbroker3495 said:

I don't know how you built your mod list but a good strategy is to only enable/install a few mods at a time. Test everything carefully before adding more mods. If you suddenly get a problem, then you know that most likely it was caused by the latest added mods. 

 

And finally you could consider to reduce the number mods by not using all mods for every playthrough. For example, do you really want/need devious devices for every playthrough? Just a suggestion to consider more themed playthroughs. Some people play for 100's of hours in the same game. Personally i only to play 20-50 hours then i choose a different mod setup. With limited number of mods (for me about 300) the game works much better and is very stable. But there is no right or wrong here. Just something to consider.

 

Thank you for your suggestions. After disabling my list of loverslab mods I pinned down to the DDe Extra patch for Naked Defeat which caused the animations to break. The issue seems to be fixed now.
Thank you again.

Edited November 10, 2022 by avav2121

[Paragon_luvz]

So you got Nemesis working with Devious Devices then? 

[Waveslider1]

Do you have both ZAZ 7 and 8 (maybe named Zap 8 in your list) installed? If so, that could be the issue

[t.ara]

NEMESIS can not work for DD because it can not compute the FNIS-creations of AA-animation-sets. All aa-stuff has to become blocked by deleting them from the behavior-task-files of fnis, if you like to let NEMESIS run FNIS animations. It´s possible to seperate the AA stuff and let the rest run via NEMESIS-but that makes no sense for the animation-quality as NEMESIS is writing the FNIS stuff exactly in a same way into the behavor-graph. This means with the DD and ZAP stuff you better stay with FNIS, if you don´t like to have a lot of work for such a participation inside of your wish-to-do-list for no reason.

Yes, more than one version of ZAP is simply causng nonsence-sooner or later.

BAKA animation-pack for ZAP is not working on the last versions of ZAP because BAKA is not communicating with master-mod-authors and simply changing master-mod-resources, without asking. The problems then occure on the user´s side because there´s no plan on BAKA´s guide, nor further interest to offer different versions and ask for a permission at least.

It´s the same if I create a mod, which is destroying DD´s framework-and then all the questions will be related to KIMY´s thread-and it all is looking like she did the mistakes !!!:-)

[t.ara]

And here again I think there are too many different mods switched on. Very difficult. Only possible to switch everything off and start with basics, as usually.

[Gameplayer]

There are mods that do not have ESM/ESP or ESL.

 

Example, Dynamic Animation Replacer mods.

 

And what kind of mod can you find in a DAR mod that would cause the arms to be all fudged up?

 

Idle animations.

 

I've had this issue before we had DAR available with idle replacers, just dont exactly remember the name of said mod, but yes using ESP type mod that forces a behavior when the player/npc is standing still "idle" will also cause a break of the armbinder behaviors.

 

Basically someone has to figure out how to fix said problem, surprised I cannot find a solution for this because it should be way more widespread.

 

Of course it may be likely to completely move most DD animations over to DAR and use its numerical system as the weight that "wins" animation conflicts over "idles" and other anims that could mess with proper armbinder usage.

[fottenberg]

i had "devious devices equip" installed in MO2

as soon as i tried disabling it on the left panel (disabling devious devices BRRF and DD BRRF patch equip esps on the right panel)...

voilà armbinder animations are working as intended

just to say, hope it helps