Heppai Posted September 13, 2022 Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Hello all, Currently having issues crashing when loading a game file after using base load. I think its related to my load order but I'm not sure how to fix it. Ive used this specific load order since 2018 but I've recently added some other mods from nexus. Since then my game has become more unstable and I'd like to clean it up and some guidance on how to get it working correctly and not CTD on certain saves. No mods were removed. Do I need to update the bashed patch? My Wyre bash is broken and outdate so I haven't been able to figure out how to get it running again. Load Order: https://pastebin.com/m1QJV0BB Edited September 13, 2022 by Heppai
donttouchmethere Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Heppai said: I've recently added some other mods from nexus What did you add and how did you add it? 14 hours ago, Heppai said: Do I need to update the bashed patch? Depends on the mods you added and where you added those in LO. Usually you need to rebuild your bashed patch if you change your load order, unless you add new mods below the bashed patch. 14 hours ago, Heppai said: My Wyre bash is broken and outdate so I haven't been able to figure out how to get it running again. Did you update your Wrye bash and it broke from that? What exactly is broken? You need to start it from MO. If you can't get your Wrye bash working again you could completely remove it and use MatorSmash instead (actually it's better for merged patches), another alternative is a Tes5edit merged patch. If you do changes on your load order at least: > rebuild your bashed patch > rerun FNIS > check your save with Fallrimtools If you added any esm mid game there is a good chance you broke your save. Did you try a new game? Bashed patch still would need a rebuild. Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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Heppai Posted September 14, 2022 Author Posted September 14, 2022 9 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Depends on the mods you added and where you added those in LO. Usually you need to rebuild your bashed patch if you change your load order, unless you add new mods below the bashed patch. Did you update your Wrye bash and it broke from that? What exactly is broken? You need to start it from MO. If you can't get your Wrye bash working again you could completely remove it and use MatorSmash instead (actually it's better for merged patches), another alternative is a Tes5edit merged patch. If you do changes on your load order at least: > rebuild your bashed patch > rerun FNIS > check your save with Fallrimtools If you added any esm mid game there is a good chance you broke your save. Did you try a new game? Bashed patch still would need a rebuild. Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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What did you add and how did you add it? I added the following using Mod Organizer. Any files that needed to be replaced such as updates, were overwritten: Minotaurs - Mihail Monsters and Animals (LE version) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/112754 Unique Uniques https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33292 New Statue of Meridia LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109070 New Mara Statue LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108828 New Shrine of Azura 2.0 LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108507 New Dibella Statues LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108518 New Nocturnal Statue LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109425 New Shrine of Boethiah LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109632 New Statue of Mehrunes Dagon LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/111516 New Statue of Shalidor LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/110074 New Hagraven and Glenmoril Witch LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/112809 New Statue of Talos LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/110583 New Shrine of Clavicus Vile LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/111859 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/95545 I updated the following files and REPLACED the files in MO1: Imperious - Races of Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61218 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/68425 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/89219 Modern Brawl Bug Fix: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77465 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/80159 NOTE: I started a new game when installing/upgrading these mods. 2. Regarding my bashed patch, I added the new files below it then I sorted it with LOOT. However, Im pretty sure nothing is supposed to be below bashed patch and DYNDOLOD so I dragged both of them to the very last of the LO. Looks like I do need to redo my Load order but as I said my Wyre Bash is pretty outdated and I'm trying to figure out how to get it running again. 3. Yes, I attempted to update my Wyre Bash from an old version to the latest and I got an error saying that my save files were from an ancient Wyre Bash and needed to be updated via another version of Wyre Bash. Im currently attempting to update it now. According to the Wyre Bash discord, I need to update my Wyre Bash through every single update since then?? Currently, If I attempt to start Wyre Bash as is through MO, it crashes upon start up. I don't even get to see the window. I am ok with using another system if that has the same effect. 4. Lastly, I used fallrim tools there was only one unattached instance and I remedied that before trying any of this. The game still crashes upon attempting to load a save. Also, looking at my load order now, would you suggest I make any changes with where things are after I follow your above steps? Once again thanks! Ill get back to you.
Heppai Posted September 15, 2022 Author Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: What did you add and how did you add it? Depends on the mods you added and where you added those in LO. Usually you need to rebuild your bashed patch if you change your load order, unless you add new mods below the bashed patch. Did you update your Wrye bash and it broke from that? What exactly is broken? You need to start it from MO. If you can't get your Wrye bash working again you could completely remove it and use MatorSmash instead (actually it's better for merged patches), another alternative is a Tes5edit merged patch. If you do changes on your load order at least: > rebuild your bashed patch > rerun FNIS > check your save with Fallrimtools If you added any esm mid game there is a good chance you broke your save. Did you try a new game? Bashed patch still would need a rebuild. Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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I'm not too worried about not playing the old saves, I dont mind starting over. I just want to know if my Skyrim's LO is stable enough to play so when I hit level 50 again, this doesnt happen in the middle of another playthrough. My saves just became unstable and CTD on load after using base start. Im open to any other ideas. I know I have a lot in my LO but did you see any odd order that would cause instability? Or can point me in the right direction of how to find out? EDIT: I made a new base save just in case the old pre-patch base save wasnt cutting it. When I tried to load the old game file I CTD'd even faster (less load screen time). EDIT2: I meant to ask, should I remove the old Wyre Bashed Patch? In an attempt to test around with it, I removed it and my loading time to the start menu significantly decreased! Also, when selecting the "Load" option at the main menu, there was no lag (there is usually like a 6 second lag when Bashed Patch is enabled) Edited September 15, 2022 by Heppai
donttouchmethere Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Heppai said: Hey there so heres an update: I followed the steps with Mator Smash and it didnt fix inability to load my old save. I'm not too worried about not playing the old saves, I dont mind starting over. I just want to know if my Skyrim's LO is stable enough to play so when I hit level 50 again, this doesnt happen in the middle of another playthrough. My saves just became unstable and CTD on load after using base start. Im open to any other ideas. I know I have a lot in my LO but did you see any odd order that would cause instability? Or can point me in the right direction of how to find out? EDIT: I made a new base save just in case the old pre-patch base save wasnt cutting it. When I tried to load the old game file I CTD'd even faster (less load screen time). EDIT2: I meant to ask, should I remove the old Wyre Bashed Patch? In an attempt to test around with it, I removed it and my loading time to the start menu significantly decreased! Also, when selecting the "Load" option at the main menu, there was no lag (there is usually like a 6 second lag when Bashed Patch is enabled) If you can't rebuild your Bashed Patch you need to remove it! You can't use an old Bashed Patch on any other game. A Bashed Patch is specific for the Load Order it was created for, which means LO sequence and bashed plugins are saved in the patch. As soon as you change the LO you need to rebuild it or remove it. Edited September 15, 2022 by donttouchmethere 1
donttouchmethere Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 I hope you rebuild your DynDOLOD patch too after changing your LO. Patches like DynDOLOD and Bashed Patch (and Smashed Patch) are Load Order spezific. If you radically change your LO and included mods you need to rebuild those. Same goes for FNIS, you need to rerun it after changing your LO. 1
donttouchmethere Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Heppai said: Imperious - Races of Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61218 ❱❱❱ FAQ Installation procedure: Add the mod to your load order and activate it. Note that Skyrim often has trouble replacing racial abilities in existing savegames. It is recommended to start a new character. If you want to try to install the mod into an existing savegame anyway: Make sure to clean your savegame after installing Imperious. This is especially important when transitioning from another race mod that may contain scripted content. Racial attributes (Health/Magicka/Stamina) will not be correct. This is not a breaking issue because you still get 300 points at level 1, just like in vanilla. Should your racial abilities be incorrect after installing Imperious, use the "Manually Assign Racials" option in the Imperious MCM menu. This option may take up to 30 seconds. If you don't have SkyUI, bring up the console and type help "Manual Debug" to get its hex ID in your particular load order and then type player.addspell [this hex ID]. If the above does not solve the issue, you will have to start a new game. 1
Heppai Posted September 15, 2022 Author Posted September 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: I hope you rebuild your DynDOLOD patch too after changing your LO. Patches like DynDOLOD and Bashed Patch (and Smashed Patch) are Load Order spezific. If you radically change your LO and included mods you need to rebuild those. Same goes for FNIS, you need to rerun it after changing your LO. I think this is my problem. Ive noticed that Ive been having problems loading in certain areas. Usually i just coc around it. Thank you again and again! Its been a while... Bashed Patch will be removed and Dyndolod will also be repatched.
donttouchmethere Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Heppai said: 2. Regarding my bashed patch, I added the new files below it then I sorted it with LOOT. However, Im pretty sure nothing is supposed to be below bashed patch and DYNDOLOD so I dragged both of them to the very last of the LO. Looks like I do need to redo my Load order but as I said my Wyre Bash is pretty outdated and I'm trying to figure out how to get it running again. "I added the new files below it then I sorted it with LOOT." ? Mid game game while updating mods? ? "However, Im pretty sure nothing is supposed to be below bashed patch and DYNDOLOD so I dragged both of them to the very last of the LO" That's not 100% true. You can have as many mods below the Bashed Patch as you like. Those will of course overwrite any changes bashed patch includes. Any mods related to the created Bashed patch still need to stay above the bashed patch. "but as I said my Wyre Bash is pretty outdated and I'm trying to figure out how to get it running again. " I found out you can't just overwrite old Wrye Bash versions with a new one. To many folders changed. Also uninstalling the old Wrye Bash still will leave leftovers that need to be manually deleted. First make sure you remove any file from the old Wrye Bash on your System. Also clean your windows registry (with CCleaner, you only need to remove any Wrye Bash related entries). If you have left overs the new Wrye Bash version will cry on installation already (sadly it doesn't say what's wrong but it will fail to install or at least fails to create bashed patches). Edited September 15, 2022 by donttouchmethere
donttouchmethere Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Heppai said: I followed the steps with Mator Smash and it didnt fix inability to load my old save. That would have surprised me ? You changed the load order sequence, updated and added mods that change PC and NPC stats and used an old Bashed Patch. The save game would be a mess by now. Especially if you didn't even checked it with Fallrimtools first for leftovers (sorry, you did that already, reflex lol). A bashed patch/Mator Smash/Tes5edit patch resolves conflicts between mods and work as patch for those. If you change any mods related to those patches they don't work correctly anymore, because they will - if not rebuild - try to solve conflicts of mods that aren't there anymore or changed in a way the conflict resolution isn't correct anymore. Even worse, if not rebuild they will overwrite any changes an updated mod does. For Bashed Patch: > it can merge patches (esp) into itself, if you used that function but removed the patch/updated a patch, it will still include old information. > to learn what those patches do open them in Tes5edit and see how they resolve conflicting entries for plugins. Warning: you might find out that not everything they do is perfect for what you want for your game, but you can manipulate them with Tes5edit or create a Tes5edit patch to overwrite them. The main reason to use either Bashed Patch or Smashed patch is that they do all those conflict resolutions between plugins automatically that you would need to do manually via Tes5edit/merged patch otherwise. > the other main reason for a bashed patch/smashed patch is to merge loot/level lists. For example multiple mods add various items to a merchant: Only the last plugin in LO that changed that merchant will add it's stuff to the merchants inventory. Bashed Patch/Smashed Patch will pool all those mods that want to add to the merchants inventory and allow all of them to add items instead of only one mod being able to manipulate the merchant. (lol now I'm confused myself, but I hope the idea is still comprehensible) Edited September 15, 2022 by donttouchmethere 1
donttouchmethere Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Heppai said: 1. What did you add and how did you add it? I added the following using Mod Organizer. Any files that needed to be replaced such as updates, were overwritten: Minotaurs - Mihail Monsters and Animals (LE version) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/112754 Unique Uniques https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33292 New Statue of Meridia LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109070 New Mara Statue LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108828 New Shrine of Azura 2.0 LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108507 New Dibella Statues LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108518 New Nocturnal Statue LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109425 New Shrine of Boethiah LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109632 New Statue of Mehrunes Dagon LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/111516 New Statue of Shalidor LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/110074 New Hagraven and Glenmoril Witch LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/112809 New Statue of Talos LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/110583 New Shrine of Clavicus Vile LE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/111859 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/95545 There is another thing that can break your save. The more mods you add to your game the more important crash fixes v12 gets: 65k string limit of vanilla Skyrim saves install Crash fixes to remove the limit after Crash fixes has removed the string limit the savegame format changes, use Fallrimtools to open and modify saves Symptoms if the save goes over the 65k string limit: saves can't be loaded anymore CTD on loading a save here are even more limits you might hit while your Mod List grows: Edited September 15, 2022 by donttouchmethere
donttouchmethere Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Heppai said: Im open to any other ideas. I know I have a lot in my LO but did you see any odd order that would cause instability? Or can point me in the right direction of how to find out? Maybe, you would need to post the new LO and a Mod List and maybe the FNIS generator output. For a stable base setup for Skyrim LE this might help: After that it's up to the Mod combo you trying to torture Skyrim with.
Heppai Posted September 15, 2022 Author Posted September 15, 2022 11 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: I hope you rebuild your DynDOLOD patch too after changing your LO. Patches like DynDOLOD and Bashed Patch (and Smashed Patch) are Load Order spezific. If you radically change your LO and included mods you need to rebuild those. Same goes for FNIS, you need to rerun it after changing your LO. So I'm in the midst of repatching DynDOLOD and its becoming a head scratcher. I'm getting "Out of Memory" errors and that certain textures are missing. Other than adding those above mods, nothing has changed. The log says I havent done this since 2018. Im using DYNDOLOD 3 if that helps and supposedly its in alpha. Im not sure what to do at this point.
Heppai Posted September 15, 2022 Author Posted September 15, 2022 I made a couple of adjustments with DYNDOLOD and..it finished. I dont know if im out of the woods yet.
Heppai Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 Another update I believe Im headed in the right direction. The DYNDOLOD issue just seemed to disappear but I think im still going to crash in certain areas because prior to my successful attempt, I got a warning saying that textures were missing. I played around with Low quality and high quality in DYNDOLOD. Both of those didnt work so I went back to Mid tier and that worked so... I dont know whats going to happen when I get to mid game but if i have problems I'll reach out. Thank you @donttouchmethere!!
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