LAPF/Extender/VoiceSSP is misgendering me

[Asspirate69]

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Lovers with PK.esm
02  LoversCreature.esm  [Version 2.5]
03  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.13]
04  CM Partners.esm
05  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
06  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
07  LoversRaperS.esp
08  LoversBed.esp
09  LoversPayBandit.esp
0A  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v5]
0B  LoversBitch.esp
0C  LoversCreature.esp  [Version 2.5.14]
0D  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4.3]
0E  LAPF_Ex_Patch.esp
0F  LoversPrimalUrge.esp
10  LoversHorseRider2.esp
11  LoversSetScale.esp
12  LoversBackup2.esp
13  LoversLight.esp
14  LoversCreatureCompanion.esp
15  LVSSP_Creatures.esp
16  xLCR.esp
17  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
18  SetBody.esp
19  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.6]
1A  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
1B  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
1C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
1D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
1E  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
1F  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
20  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.10]
21  CoO1.esp
22  NightBanditsOnRoads.esp
23  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
24  Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
25  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
26  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
27  cowlredux.esp
28  Sexy Daedric Priestess.esp
29  SmokingSystem.esp
2A  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
2B  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0RC3]
2C  Knights.esp
2D  Knights Vwalk.esp
2E  Oblivion Scaling Unclusterfucked.esp
2F  Side's Backpacks.esp  [Version 1.0]
30  VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
31  VCEClassOverhaul.esp
32  Level Based Summon Cap.esp
33  MidasSpells.esp
34  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
35  CM Partners.esp
36  DremoraFemales.esp
37  CM Partners Vwalk.esp
38  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
39  CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp
3A  CM Partners NPC.esp
3B  CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp
3C  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
3D  CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp
3E  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
3F  CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp
40  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
41  CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp
42  CM Partner Destara.esp
43  DMAPlayable.esp
44  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.10]
45  Oblivion Character Overhaul Hair Edition.esp
46  NPC Hair Matches Beard.esp  [Version 1.3]
47  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul_Faces.esp  [Version 1.4]
48  OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
49  OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
4A  OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
4B  Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
4C  Better Cities BRAVIL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
4D  Better Cities ANVIL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
4E  Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
4F  Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
50  Better Cities BRUMA.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
51  Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
52  Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
53  Better Cities IC Arena.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
54  Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
55  Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
56  Better Cities IC Market.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
57  Better Cities IC Prison.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
58  Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
59  Better Cities IC Temple.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
5A  Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
5B  Alternate Start Revamped.esp
++  [SR] Khats & Args.esp
5C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
5D  LoversMB2.esp
5E  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
5F  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
60  Ho_SexyOutfit.esp
61  reanimatespellcrafting.esp
62  No Enemy Health Bar.esp
63  ShinyCreaturesOblivion.esp
64  RandomRoadEncounters.esp
65  Arfien's Slotless Items.esp
66  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
67  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
68  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

 

 

So LAPF keeps Identifying my male khajiit character as a female for some reason and its annoying the shit out of me. My voice is female and I get female dialogue and such. I can not go back to male voice, for some reason I am considered female. I think PK extender is the problem, but I don't really know how to fix this and I am at my wits end. I really don't think its my load order but I would like to be properly recognized as a male again. I still get male animations and grow a schlong but otherwise am being considered female for voices and dialogue. Anyone else run into this before? I know I take it up the ass a lot but my character does not have a pussy lol

[LongDukDong]

I have never even 'heard' of a problem where a guy gets mis-identified female before. 

 

Now, I do know that your load order is messed up because the LoversAnimObjects and LoversAnimPriorities are always the LAST ones in the list.  And to start with, your masters (ESM) files should start like this:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.13]
02  CM Partners.esm
03  Lovers with PK.esm
04  LoversCreature.esm  [Version 2.5]

The last masters(esms) ... in any master mod order would be "as follows in this order":  Lovers with PK, TamagoClub, HiyokoClub, and then LoversCreature.

 

In general, you would have your plugins go along the lines of:
(Patches) --- The Unofficial Oblivion Patches... here.

(DLCs)

(Weather/Special Effects) --- Like Vanilla Combat Enhanced...

(Items)

(Overhauls) --- Like Oblivion Character Overhaul.  Definitely kvatch Rebuilt.

(Landscapes)

(Tamago - if any)

(Lovers)

(Idle animations) --- like Knights vwalk, despite where Knights.esp belongs in the order, and Oblivion Character Overhaul's vwalk too
(Races)

(Companions)

(you will find better cities add-ons go here)

 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 LoversMB2.esp
 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp     <----- always the last in order
 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
 Lovers3dorgasm.esp
 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

In yours, you have most all of the Lovers mods high up and loading first.  Yeaaahhh, nope.   You want the environmental and all forms of effects to load first before the sex system...  animations loading much later, which is why idle animations load after Lovers mods with the exception of the LoversAnimObjects/Priorities plugins.

 

For a more detailed mod order list, check the yellow link in my signature and scroll down to where it says Recommended Mod Order and examine the spoiler right below it.  The list is from 2014, but very concise.  For things like CutThroat Mods's Companions system (aka CM_Partners), it will help a lot.  I remember when they had their own site during the era of MORROWIND modding.

 

I'm not sure the effectiveness of my  LAPF_Ex_Patch so much now... I wrote that so long ago.

 

And I've said it before, and it's in the help file... 

16  xLCR.esp

This is a debug tool and does not need to be activated.  You can go and say *POOF!* to that one and erase it.

Edited August 31, 2022 by LongDukDong

[Asspirate69]

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.13]
02  CM Partners.esm
03  Lovers with PK.esm
04  LoversCreature.esm  [Version 2.5]
05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
06  Knights.esp
07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.6]
08  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
09  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
0B  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.10]
0C  Oblivion Character Overhaul Hair Edition.esp
0D  NPC Hair Matches Beard.esp  [Version 1.3]
0E  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul_Faces.esp  [Version 1.4]
0F  OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
10  OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
11  Alternate Start Revamped.esp
12  DMAPlayable.esp
13  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.10]
14  Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
15  Better Cities BRAVIL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
16  Better Cities ANVIL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
17  Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
18  Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
19  Better Cities BRUMA.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
1A  Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
1B  Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
1C  Better Cities IC Arena.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
1D  Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
1E  Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
1F  Better Cities IC Market.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
20  Better Cities IC Prison.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
21  Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
22  Better Cities IC Temple.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
23  Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
24  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0RC3]
25  OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
26  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
27  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
28  Knights Vwalk.esp
29  Oblivion Scaling Unclusterfucked.esp
2A  VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
2B  VCEClassOverhaul.esp
2C  Level Based Summon Cap.esp
2D  MidasSpells.esp
2E  Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
2F  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
30  Ho_SexyOutfit.esp
31  reanimatespellcrafting.esp
32  No Enemy Health Bar.esp
33  ShinyCreaturesOblivion.esp
34  RandomRoadEncounters.esp
35  Arfien's Slotless Items.esp
36  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
37  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
38  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
39  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
3A  CoO1.esp
3B  NightBanditsOnRoads.esp
3C  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
3D  cowlredux.esp
3E  Sexy Daedric Priestess.esp
3F  SmokingSystem.esp
40  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
41  Side's Backpacks.esp  [Version 1.0]
42  DremoraFemales.esp
43  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
44  CM Partners.esp
45  CM Partners Vwalk.esp
46  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
47  CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp
48  CM Partners NPC.esp
49  CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp
4A  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
4B  CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp
4C  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
4D  CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp
4E  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
4F  CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp
50  CM Partner Destara.esp
++  [SR] Khats & Args.esp
51  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
52  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v5]
53  LoversMB2.esp
54  LoversCreature.esp  [Version 2.5.14]
55  xLCR.esp
56  LoversBitch.esp
57  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
58  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
59  LVSSP_Creatures.esp
5A  LoversRaperS.esp
5B  LoversBed.esp
5C  LoversPayBandit.esp
5D  LoversPrimalUrge.esp
5E  LoversHorseRider2.esp
5F  LoversSetScale.esp
60  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
61  LoversBackup2.esp
62  LoversLight.esp
63  LoversCreatureCompanion.esp
64  SetBody.esp
65  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
66  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

Just read this. This is my new load order but I'm still having the same issue being referred to as "Ma'am" in dialogue. I'm gonna keep fucking around till I can figure this out.

[Asspirate69]

New load order: 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.13]
02  CM Partners.esm
03  Lovers with PK.esm
04  LoversCreature.esm  [Version 2.5]
05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.6]
06  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
07  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
08  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  Knights.esp
0B  VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
0C  VCEClassOverhaul.esp
0D  MidasSpells.esp
0E  DremoraFemales.esp
0F  SmokingSystem.esp
10  Side's Backpacks.esp  [Version 1.0]
11  Oblivion Scaling Unclusterfucked.esp
12  Level Based Summon Cap.esp
13  Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
14  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
15  Ho_SexyOutfit.esp
16  reanimatespellcrafting.esp
17  No Enemy Health Bar.esp
18  ShinyCreaturesOblivion.esp
19  RandomRoadEncounters.esp
1A  Arfien's Slotless Items.esp
1B  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
1C  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
1D  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
1E  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
1F  CoO1.esp
20  NightBanditsOnRoads.esp
21  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
22  cowlredux.esp
23  Sexy Daedric Priestess.esp
24  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
25  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
26  Alternate Start Revamped.esp
27  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.10]
28  Oblivion Character Overhaul Hair Edition.esp
29  NPC Hair Matches Beard.esp  [Version 1.3]
**  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul_Faces.esp  [Version 1.4]
++  [SR] Khats & Args.esp
2A  OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
2B  OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
2C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0RC3]
2D  OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
2E  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
2F  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
30  CM Partners Vwalk.esp
31  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
32  Knights Vwalk.esp
33  CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp
34  DMAPlayable.esp
35  CM Partners.esp
36  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
37  CM Partners NPC.esp
38  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
39  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
3A  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
3B  CM Partner Destara.esp
3C  CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp
3D  CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp
3E  CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp
3F  CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp
40  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.10]
41  Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
42  Better Cities BRAVIL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
43  Better Cities ANVIL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
44  Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
45  Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
46  Better Cities BRUMA.esp  [Version 6.0.13]
47  Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
48  Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
49  Better Cities IC Arena.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
4A  Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
4B  Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
4C  Better Cities IC Market.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
4D  Better Cities IC Prison.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
4E  Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
4F  Better Cities IC Temple.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
50  Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp  [Version 6.0.12]
51  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
52  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v5]
53  LoversMB2.esp
54  LoversCreature.esp  [Version 2.5.14]
55  xLCR.esp
56  LoversBitch.esp
57  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
58  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
59  LVSSP_Creatures.esp
5A  LoversRaperS.esp
5B  LoversBed.esp
5C  LoversPayBandit.esp
5D  LoversPrimalUrge.esp
5E  LoversHorseRider2.esp
5F  LoversSetScale.esp
60  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
61  LoversBackup2.esp
62  LoversLight.esp
63  LoversCreatureCompanion.esp
64  SetBody.esp
65  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
66  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

Same problem. Gonna have to start trying to reinstall shit and find out where it went wrong. I'll have to try again when I have more free time. Everything was working perfectly for a while though... but i guess Oblivion is temperamental as fuck.

[LongDukDong]

Both newer load orders are simultaneously wrong.  Recall that I stated this:

 

8 hours ago, LongDukDong said:

Overhauls) --- Like Oblivion Character Overhaul.  Definitely kvatch Rebuilt.

(Landscapes)

(Tamago - if any)

(Lovers)

(Idle animations) --- like Knights vwalk, despite where Knights.esp belongs in the order, and Oblivion Character Overhaul's vwalk too
(Races)

(Companions)

(you will find better cities add-ons go here)

 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 LoversMB2.esp
 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp     <----- always the last in order
 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
 Lovers3dorgasm.esp
 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

In this, the  CM Partners mods would be placed under (Companions) which loads below/after Lovers mods.  Likewise, I noted that Better Cities add-ons load after CM Partners... and thus after all Lovers Mods all except those I have highlighted in orange which will NEED be at the end of your mod order and in that particular order. If you don't have 3D orgasm... fine.  I don't either.

 

But essentially, with the EXCEPTION of the Orange highlighted mods, all of your lovers mods appear to need go BEFORE 2E in your last Load Order....  Before your 'walk' or (Idle animations)... again as noted in the mod order hierarchy in my list.

 

And you do need to study the Mod Order list available by clicking the yellow link in my signature.  LoversAdultPlay, LoversVoice and LoversRaperS go "BEFORE/ABOVE" Lovers with PK.esp, so I know it wasn't fully read. Even the Lovers Mods themselves need to be reorganized, let alone the others. Please check it out.

 

Edited August 31, 2022 by LongDukDong