Skyrim lagging

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

I have somewhat recently started getting really bad lag while playing with mods active in skyrim. I have never had this issue before, and I have played with just as many mods active in the past as I am now. Also, I recently upgraded my graphics card, which didn't help the lag at all. I have tried testing to see if a specific mod is causing it, but I can't find any one culprit. However, when I have no/very few mods, the game runs fine.

 

here is my load order

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
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  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
254 FE   0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE   1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
  6  6     ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
  7  7     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  8  8     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  9  9     SexLab.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
254 FE   2 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
 11  b     ApachiiHair.esm
254 FE   3 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
 12  c     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 13  d     Campfire.esm
 14  e     RaceCompatibility.esm
 15  f     battlenymphs.esm
 16 10     SexLabAroused.esm
 17 11     PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
254 FE   4 SAS.esl
 18 12     Heels Sound.esm
 19 13     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 20 14     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 21 15     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 22 16     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 23 17     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 24 18     FISS.esp
 25 19     ERF - Kerrigan.esm
 26 1a     High Poly Head.esm
 27 1b     SkyUI_SE.esp
 28 1c     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 29 1d     Immersive Wenches.esp
254 FE   5 MfgFix.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenu.esp
 31 1f     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 32 20     beltfastenedquivers.esp
 33 21     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 34 22     XPMSE.esp
 35 23     CBBE.esp
 36 24     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 37 25     12FemaleBrows.esp
 38 26     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 39 27     SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp
 40 28     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 41 29     SLAnimLoader.esp
 42 2a     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 43 2b     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 44 2c     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 45 2d     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 46 2e     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
 47 2f     SexLabTools.esp
 48 30     SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
 49 31     AnubAnimObj.esp
 50 32     NCK30Obj.esp
 51 33     PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
254 FE   6 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 52 34     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 53 35     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 54 36     SLALAnimObj.esp
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 56 38     RaceMenuHH.esp
 57 39     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
254 FE   7 AutoHideAmmo.esp
 58 3a     FemaleOutfitReplacer.esp
254 FE   8 Cicera - Female Cicero Dialogue Edit.esp
 59 3b     Forgotten Wenches.esp
254 FE   9 SINful CBP.esp
 60 3c     AddItemMenuSE.esp
 61 3d     FNISSexyMove.esp
 62 3e     RutahTattooPack SE.esp
 63 3f     zzEstrus.esp
 64 40     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 65 41     BrajornLoadingNSFW.esp
 66 42     icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 67 43     iLuvLoading.esp
 68 44     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
           EBT - IC PATCH.esp
 69 45     Footprints.esp
 70 46     UnreadBooksGlow.esp
 71 47     imp_helm_legend.esp
 72 48     DHuntress.esp
 73 49     FlameAtronachArmor.esp
 74 4a     FullBootForKKSA.esp
 75 4b     Judgment Wenches.esp
 76 4c     KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
 77 4d     KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
 78 4e     C5Kev's Stalhrim Stiffy Armor 3BA.esp
 79 4f     Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
 80 50     SLACS.esp
 81 51     SLSO.esp
 82 52     GR Inari EarsTails SMP.esp
 83 53     DanceForMe.esp
 84 54     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 85 55     WetandCold.esp
 86 56     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 87 57     hydra_slavegirls.esp
 88 58     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 89 59     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
254 FE   a BakaFactoryABC.esp
 90 5a     Animal_SOS.esp
 91 5b     LABikiniSSE.esp
 92 5c     Immersive Weapons.esp
 93 5d     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 94 5e     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 95 5f     FemaleGuardsBase.esp
 96 60     EstrusChaurus.esp
 97 61     MisterB's Magic of Food & Drink.esp
 98 62     animal_mansion.esp
 99 63     aaareindeer beast race followers.esp
100 64     YurianaWench.esp
101 65     Run For Your Lives.esp
102 66     SexLab Beastess.esp
103 67     MiasLair.esp
254 FE   b CiceroFemaleSE.esp
254 FE   c CiceroFemaleConversion.esp
104 68     TERAArmorsSSE.esp
105 69     HearthCraft.esp
106 6a     Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
107 6b     HornyCreatures.esp
108 6c     MistySkye.esp
109 6d     Hunterborn.esp
110 6e     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
111 6f     SofiaFollower.esp
112 70     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
113 71     KNM_Mour.esp
114 72     PROTEUS.esp
115 73     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
116 74     SOS - Shop.esp
117 75     TAWoBA - JOP Patch.esp
118 76     [SunJeong] Ninirim Collection.esp
119 77     SLDragons.esp
120 78     House Map Markers Legendary.esp
121 79     My Home Is Your Home.esp
122 7a     RosaFollower.esp
123 7b     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
124 7c     Nerida.esp
125 7d     MistysHairSalon.esp
126 7e     LustmordVampireArmor.esp
254 FE   d Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp
127 7f     Public Executions.esp
128 80     AP Skyrim SE.esp
129 81     SexLab Extra Voices.esp
130 82     JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
131 83     Daedric Bitchs.esp
132 84     el_Brows.esp
133 85     Elysia.esp
134 86     GK-2b.esp
135 87     saLa_Hairs.esp
136 88     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
137 89     Moolgogi Follower Ahri.esp
138 8a     Shino_School_Uniform.esp
139 8b     [COCO]wedding_2B.esp
254 FE   e Minou Aradia Lace Dress.esp
140 8c     VanillaArgoniansRedux.esp
141 8d     CZM_SilverThroatFollower.esp
142 8e     Dovakini.esp
143 8f     PeroPeroArmorPackSE.esp
144 90     PeroPeroArmorPack - JoP Patch.esp
145 91     [COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp
254 FE   f Deflection - Dynamic Blocking Combat Overhaul.esp
146 92     UltimateDragons.esp
147 93     Janessa Half Argonian Companion.esp
148 94     RLO - Effects.esp
149 95     AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
150 96     Eldritch Magic Weapon Enchantments.esp
151 97     dc-untamed-000.esp
152 98     dc-untamed-100-stfu-spriggan.esp
153 99     dc-untamed-100-stfu-wolf.esp
154 9a     SimpleOutfitManager.esp
155 9b     SexLabRandomSex.esp
254 FE  10 [TheMilkDrinker] YoRHa 2B Attire.esp
156 9c     HentaiCreatures.esp
157 9d     Toccata.esp
254 FE  11 [COCO] Pinup Cheongsam.esp
254 FE  12 [COCO] RONIN.esp
254 FE  13 [COCO]LaceBody.esp
254 FE  14 [COCO]Lingerie.esp
254 FE  15 [COCO]Raikou.esp
254 FE  16 [COCO]Student_Uniform.esp
158 9e     FNIS.esp
159 9f     FNISspells.esp
254 FE  17 [COCO] Asuka suit.esp
254 FE  18 [COCO] Lady Gladiator.esp
160 a0     [COCO]Deliciously_Bride_Full_CBBE SE.esp
161 a1     [COCO]JoanOfArc_Full_CBBE SE.esp
162 a2     Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
163 a3     KKFur.esp
254 FE  19 MCMHelper.esp
254 FE  1a TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
164 a4     Abduction.esp
165 a5     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
166 a6     SexLabDefeat.esp
167 a7     SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
168 a8     Sleep for Credit.esp
169 a9     SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp
170 aa     TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
171 ab     Devious Devices For Him.esp
172 ac     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
254 FE  1b Devious Devices SE patch.esp
173 ad     SlaveTats.esp
254 FE  1c [Ryan Reos] Dark Elf Blader.esp
174 ae     VioLens SE.esp
175 af     Spank That Ass.esp
176 b0     halfdragonrace.esp
177 b1     ERF - Kerrigan - SOS Addon.esp
178 b2     Eyes of Aber.esp
179 b3     CommunityOverlays3.esp
180 b4     Ophelia.esp
181 b5     KS Hairdo's.esp
182 b6     VO_Succubus_Rape_Spell.esp
183 b7     ERF - Succubus.esp
184 b8     ERF - Succubus - PSQ Addon.esp
185 b9     BeautifulFalmer.esp
254 FE  1d BeautifulDraugr.esp
186 ba     RBS2020.esp
254 FE  1e Proteus - Apocalypse Patch.esp
187 bb     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
254 FE  1f Proteus - Imperious Patch.esp
188 bc     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
189 bd     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
190 be     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
191 bf     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
254 FE  20 Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
192 c0     Convenient Horses.esp
193 c1     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
194 c2     Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp
195 c3     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
196 c4     RLO - Interiors.esp
197 c5     RLO - CRF Patch.esp
198 c6     RLO - IC Patch.esp
199 c7     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
200 c8     RLO - VIS Patch.esp
201 c9     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE  21 Bathing in SSE - RWT Patch.esp
254 FE  22 Bathing in Skyrim SE - RWT Watercolor Patch.esp
 

EDIT: I should clarify, I have a pretty good PC. 32GB of ram, and my old graphics card was an RTX 1660, with the new one being a 3080ti, and changing them showed no improvement at all.

Edited August 29, 2022 by godwhatamIdoingwithmylife

[RJLbwb]

I just fixed a similar issue and it was caused by several mods that didn't work and play well together. I don't see any my bad mods on your list but, what causing my lag was;

 

* Large number of a light sources (the engine chugs on the shadows)
* Real Flames made the light source issue lag worse.
* Populated Skyrim. Too many NPCs in the cell. (pathing, adding animations and clothing mods)
* a bad SKYSE dll that changed the NPC AI, I was getting CTD the lag got so bad as the NPCs raced around the cell when I entered it.

* NPCs Travel - it would rez a huge number of NPCs at the gate to the Whiterun all at once.

 

Also, I see you have Project Protheus - did you modify a lot of NPCs with its appearance changer? that also causes lag.

 

EDIT: Run For Your Lives doesn't work with Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul. 

 

Edited August 29, 2022 by RJLbwb

[nilead]

 Unfortunately, "lag" is a very broad term.

You get FPS drops? Script delay? Run out of RAM/video memory, or perhaps an anrique hard drive caps out rading speed?

Resource monitor would tell much more than load order, honestly. 

 On your build - there are only very general things that might nevertheless help optimizing it:

1st - Skyrim for all its shortcomings was a very well optimized game.

2nd - Modders usually push their creation to the max with little regard to an idea that it will have to coexist with other similar creations.

 So, modded skyrim system requirements have nothing to do with its original ones.

 Some food for thought - 4k textures (and some people pack 8k into Skyrim) practicly dont exist in AAA projects, with rare exceptions such as most detailed LOD of main characters. For overwhelming majority of puposes its a complete overkill and pure waste of resoruces for something that has to be rendered real-time at steady FPS. Polycount isnt as relevant, but again. If it can be done with lower poly count, it should be.

 Another thing - many mods run "scanners", wich are cloak type spells with checks attached. Each by themself isnt an issue, but there are lots of those. Try lowering frequency of checks, their radius. Enable periodic purge of cache wherever possible.

 Lastly there are just plainly bad mods. A botched smp .xml can drop your fps to single didgit numbers, regardless of hardware. Flaming people about it is not nice, its fruits of someone labour shared for free. But user discretion is advised.

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

17 minutes ago, nilead said:

 Unfortunately, "lag" is a very broad term.

You get FPS drops? Script delay? Run out of RAM/video memory, or perhaps an anrique hard drive caps out rading speed?

Resource monitor would tell much more than load order, honestly. 

 On your build - there are only very general things that might nevertheless help optimizing it:

1st - Skyrim for all its shortcomings was a very well optimized game.

2nd - Modders usually push their creation to the max with little regard to an idea that it will have to coexist with other similar creations.

 So, modded skyrim system requirements have nothing to do with its original ones.

 Some food for thought - 4k textures (and some people pack 8k into Skyrim) practicly dont exist in AAA projects, with rare exceptions such as most detailed LOD of main characters. For overwhelming majority of puposes its a complete overkill and pure waste of resoruces for something that has to be rendered real-time at steady FPS. Polycount isnt as relevant, but again. If it can be done with lower poly count, it should be.

 Another thing - many mods run "scanners", wich are cloak type spells with checks attached. Each by themself isnt an issue, but there are lots of those. Try lowering frequency of checks, their radius. Enable periodic purge of cache wherever possible.

 Lastly there are just plainly bad mods. A botched smp .xml can drop your fps to single didgit numbers, regardless of hardware. Flaming people about it is not nice, its fruits of someone labour shared for free. But user discretion is advised.

I get a consistent, low fps. it is much worse in certain areas (about 30fps), but generally hovers about 50. any ideas on how to figure out which mods might be causing lag? I tried disable them in groups which is what I normally do to problem solve, but it really didn't seem like any one mod was causing lag. it was more like every 20ish mods I enabled, the framerate dropped a bit more.

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

28 minutes ago, RJLbwb said:

I just fixed a similar issue and it was caused by several mods that didn't work and play well together. I don't see any my bad mods on your list but, what causing my lag was;

 

* Large number of a light sources (the engine chugs on the shadows)
* Real Flames made the light source issue lag worse.
* Populated Skyrim. Too many NPCs in the cell. (pathing, adding animations and clothing mods)
* a bad SKYSE dll that changed the NPC AI, I was getting CTD the lag got so bad as the NPCs raced around the cell when I entered it.

* NPCs Travel - it would rez a huge number of NPCs at the gate to the Whiterun all at once.

 

Also, I see you have Project Protheus - did you modify a lot of NPCs with its appearance changer? that also causes lag.

 

I haven't done much with Protheus, and disabling it doesn't help. Also, Generally the game doesn't seem to lag in the areas you would expect, like areas with lots of NPCs. Instead, I usually hover around  50fps, with it dropping to as low as 30 in some areas (although there doesn't seem to be much reason as to why those areas would be worse). 

[RJLbwb]

34 minutes ago, godwhatamIdoingwithmylife said:

I haven't done much with Protheus, and disabling it doesn't help. Also, Generally the game doesn't seem to lag in the areas you would expect, like areas with lots of NPCs. Instead, I usually hover around  50fps, with it dropping to as low as 30 in some areas (although there doesn't seem to be much reason as to why those areas would be worse). 

What Nilead said about 8K textures will do that.  Personally, I stick all the textures in any mod threw a texture optimizer because of that.  It's not just file size, the  texture file has to  be the right version DDS or Skyrim gets cranky. 

 

Also: Run For Your Lives doesn't work with Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul.  It caused me all kind of FPS grief in the cities when had them both enabled.

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

3 minutes ago, RJLbwb said:

What Nilead said about 8K textures will do that.  Personally, I stick all the textures in any mod threw a texture optimizer because of that.  It's not just file size, the  texture file has to  be the right version DDS or Skyrim gets cranky. 

 

Also: Run For Your Lives doesn't work with Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul.  It caused me all kind of FPS grief in the cities when had them both enabled.

What do you mean a texture optimizer? do you have an example?

[Gameplayer]

5 hours ago, godwhatamIdoingwithmylife said:

I have somewhat recently started getting really bad lag while playing with mods active in skyrim. I have never had this issue before, and I have played with just as many mods active in the past as I am now. Also, I recently upgraded my graphics card, which didn't help the lag at all. I have tried testing to see if a specific mod is causing it, but I can't find any one culprit. However, when I have no/very few mods, the game runs fine.

 

here is my load order

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
254 FE   0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE   1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
  6  6     ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
  7  7     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  8  8     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  9  9     SexLab.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
254 FE   2 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
 11  b     ApachiiHair.esm
254 FE   3 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
 12  c     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 13  d     Campfire.esm
 14  e     RaceCompatibility.esm
 15  f     battlenymphs.esm
 16 10     SexLabAroused.esm
 17 11     PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
254 FE   4 SAS.esl
 18 12     Heels Sound.esm
 19 13     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 20 14     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 21 15     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 22 16     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 23 17     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 24 18     FISS.esp
 25 19     ERF - Kerrigan.esm
 26 1a     High Poly Head.esm
 27 1b     SkyUI_SE.esp
 28 1c     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 29 1d     Immersive Wenches.esp
254 FE   5 MfgFix.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenu.esp
 31 1f     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 32 20     beltfastenedquivers.esp
 33 21     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 34 22     XPMSE.esp
 35 23     CBBE.esp
 36 24     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 37 25     12FemaleBrows.esp
 38 26     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 39 27     SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp
 40 28     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 41 29     SLAnimLoader.esp
 42 2a     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 43 2b     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 44 2c     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 45 2d     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 46 2e     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
 47 2f     SexLabTools.esp
 48 30     SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
 49 31     AnubAnimObj.esp
 50 32     NCK30Obj.esp
 51 33     PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
254 FE   6 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 52 34     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 53 35     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 54 36     SLALAnimObj.esp
 55 37     UIExtensions.esp
 56 38     RaceMenuHH.esp
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254 FE   7 AutoHideAmmo.esp
 58 3a     FemaleOutfitReplacer.esp
254 FE   8 Cicera - Female Cicero Dialogue Edit.esp
 59 3b     Forgotten Wenches.esp
254 FE   9 SINful CBP.esp
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 61 3d     FNISSexyMove.esp
 62 3e     RutahTattooPack SE.esp
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 66 42     icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 67 43     iLuvLoading.esp
 68 44     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
           EBT - IC PATCH.esp
 69 45     Footprints.esp
 70 46     UnreadBooksGlow.esp
 71 47     imp_helm_legend.esp
 72 48     DHuntress.esp
 73 49     FlameAtronachArmor.esp
 74 4a     FullBootForKKSA.esp
 75 4b     Judgment Wenches.esp
 76 4c     KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
 77 4d     KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
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 81 51     SLSO.esp
 82 52     GR Inari EarsTails SMP.esp
 83 53     DanceForMe.esp
 84 54     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 85 55     WetandCold.esp
 86 56     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 87 57     hydra_slavegirls.esp
 88 58     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 89 59     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
254 FE   a BakaFactoryABC.esp
 90 5a     Animal_SOS.esp
 91 5b     LABikiniSSE.esp
 92 5c     Immersive Weapons.esp
 93 5d     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 94 5e     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
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 96 60     EstrusChaurus.esp
 97 61     MisterB's Magic of Food & Drink.esp
 98 62     animal_mansion.esp
 99 63     aaareindeer beast race followers.esp
100 64     YurianaWench.esp
101 65     Run For Your Lives.esp
102 66     SexLab Beastess.esp
103 67     MiasLair.esp
254 FE   b CiceroFemaleSE.esp
254 FE   c CiceroFemaleConversion.esp
104 68     TERAArmorsSSE.esp
105 69     HearthCraft.esp
106 6a     Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
107 6b     HornyCreatures.esp
108 6c     MistySkye.esp
109 6d     Hunterborn.esp
110 6e     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
111 6f     SofiaFollower.esp
112 70     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
113 71     KNM_Mour.esp
114 72     PROTEUS.esp
115 73     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
116 74     SOS - Shop.esp
117 75     TAWoBA - JOP Patch.esp
118 76     [SunJeong] Ninirim Collection.esp
119 77     SLDragons.esp
120 78     House Map Markers Legendary.esp
121 79     My Home Is Your Home.esp
122 7a     RosaFollower.esp
123 7b     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
124 7c     Nerida.esp
125 7d     MistysHairSalon.esp
126 7e     LustmordVampireArmor.esp
254 FE   d Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp
127 7f     Public Executions.esp
128 80     AP Skyrim SE.esp
129 81     SexLab Extra Voices.esp
130 82     JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
131 83     Daedric Bitchs.esp
132 84     el_Brows.esp
133 85     Elysia.esp
134 86     GK-2b.esp
135 87     saLa_Hairs.esp
136 88     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
137 89     Moolgogi Follower Ahri.esp
138 8a     Shino_School_Uniform.esp
139 8b     [COCO]wedding_2B.esp
254 FE   e Minou Aradia Lace Dress.esp
140 8c     VanillaArgoniansRedux.esp
141 8d     CZM_SilverThroatFollower.esp
142 8e     Dovakini.esp
143 8f     PeroPeroArmorPackSE.esp
144 90     PeroPeroArmorPack - JoP Patch.esp
145 91     [COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp
254 FE   f Deflection - Dynamic Blocking Combat Overhaul.esp
146 92     UltimateDragons.esp
147 93     Janessa Half Argonian Companion.esp
148 94     RLO - Effects.esp
149 95     AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
150 96     Eldritch Magic Weapon Enchantments.esp
151 97     dc-untamed-000.esp
152 98     dc-untamed-100-stfu-spriggan.esp
153 99     dc-untamed-100-stfu-wolf.esp
154 9a     SimpleOutfitManager.esp
155 9b     SexLabRandomSex.esp
254 FE  10 [TheMilkDrinker] YoRHa 2B Attire.esp
156 9c     HentaiCreatures.esp
157 9d     Toccata.esp
254 FE  11 [COCO] Pinup Cheongsam.esp
254 FE  12 [COCO] RONIN.esp
254 FE  13 [COCO]LaceBody.esp
254 FE  14 [COCO]Lingerie.esp
254 FE  15 [COCO]Raikou.esp
254 FE  16 [COCO]Student_Uniform.esp
158 9e     FNIS.esp
159 9f     FNISspells.esp
254 FE  17 [COCO] Asuka suit.esp
254 FE  18 [COCO] Lady Gladiator.esp
160 a0     [COCO]Deliciously_Bride_Full_CBBE SE.esp
161 a1     [COCO]JoanOfArc_Full_CBBE SE.esp
162 a2     Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
163 a3     KKFur.esp
254 FE  19 MCMHelper.esp
254 FE  1a TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
164 a4     Abduction.esp
165 a5     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
166 a6     SexLabDefeat.esp
167 a7     SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
168 a8     Sleep for Credit.esp
169 a9     SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp
170 aa     TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
171 ab     Devious Devices For Him.esp
172 ac     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
254 FE  1b Devious Devices SE patch.esp
173 ad     SlaveTats.esp
254 FE  1c [Ryan Reos] Dark Elf Blader.esp
174 ae     VioLens SE.esp
175 af     Spank That Ass.esp
176 b0     halfdragonrace.esp
177 b1     ERF - Kerrigan - SOS Addon.esp
178 b2     Eyes of Aber.esp
179 b3     CommunityOverlays3.esp
180 b4     Ophelia.esp
181 b5     KS Hairdo's.esp
182 b6     VO_Succubus_Rape_Spell.esp
183 b7     ERF - Succubus.esp
184 b8     ERF - Succubus - PSQ Addon.esp
185 b9     BeautifulFalmer.esp
254 FE  1d BeautifulDraugr.esp
186 ba     RBS2020.esp
254 FE  1e Proteus - Apocalypse Patch.esp
187 bb     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
254 FE  1f Proteus - Imperious Patch.esp
188 bc     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
189 bd     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
190 be     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
191 bf     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
254 FE  20 Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
192 c0     Convenient Horses.esp
193 c1     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
194 c2     Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp
195 c3     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
196 c4     RLO - Interiors.esp
197 c5     RLO - CRF Patch.esp
198 c6     RLO - IC Patch.esp
199 c7     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
200 c8     RLO - VIS Patch.esp
201 c9     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE  21 Bathing in SSE - RWT Patch.esp
254 FE  22 Bathing in Skyrim SE - RWT Watercolor Patch.esp
 

 

 

So what kind of computer are we talking about?

 

You did mention that you upgraded your video card?  So what did you upgrade too? 

 

SkyrimSE and Fallout 4, are well couple of games that need a lot of free memory to run real well.

So I'll start by providing some hard numbers on RAM,

 

SkyrimSE and Fo4 use about 15-16 Gigs of RAM pretty consistently,

Not all modern games will use 16 Gigs like these two, examples

 

Cyberpunk 2077 will use about 10 an 1/2 Gigs of RAM, wont go any higher.

Total War Warhammer Fantasy 3, about 10....Wish it would use more because it literally will adjust between load screens means it changes over the assets in memory rather than just use more RAM which would make it faster.

Red Dead Redemption uses about 10

Star Citizen, I dont play it but have seen the reports that it can use as much as 48 Gigs worth.

Ballpark though a lot of current games use about 10-11 Gigs of RAM, its not 16 like I thought.

 

For the most part gotta sit down an figure out just how much RAM your system uses, Windows and Steam both scale a bit....However you can actually shut down a lot of the programs that Win10 uses with a debloater script which will free up a lot of memory and also Steam can be launched in a mini-mode that caps off its usage down to about 40KB memory.  Which is substantial amount of memory savings because both of those can scale up to about 8 Gigs and 2 Gigs of memory just to run in the background.

Lazy way is to basically slot in about 32 Gigs and call it good, its lazy but it involves a lot less effect on program side.

Thing is that too provide a full 16 Gigs of memory you would need to have a PC that has slightly more than 16 total like about 24 Gigs worth....Since Dimms have to be paired to function properly that would mean having like 6 Dimm slots with 4GB each to have 24 these would be DDR3.  DDR4 does not come with 4GB option, I think its just 8,16, and 32 Modules.  Its alright getting 32 Gigs is pretty cheap its about 80 - 120 bucks and its a great upgrade overall.

 

I would suggest,

That since this appears to be the PC struggling with so many mods, we first have a look at sprucing it up a bit with 

"Windows10 Debloater" its easy to find in search engine also I listed a whole bunch of links and info about this stuff in Steam is Eating your memory linked in my signiture.

Also make sure all your updates for Win10 are installed and of course proper drivers for the video card, after all you upgraded so make sure you have proper new driver as well.

Then maybe check your motherboard manufacturer for updated drivers as well, does not happen often but on my PC the update meant a lot.

 

Then we can look at say using Cathedral Optimizer a program to package your Texture files into proper BSA format should help, 

However what would really help is if you say cut down the resolution size of the Texture files to proper match the resolution scaling you actually use on your PC!

1) IF you use 1080p, than using 2K and/or 4K is just file bloat and sure the files can be downsized to the resolution of the game BUT, that means your using a file that is about 3-5 times larger than it needs to be and it takes up RAM space memory!

2) dynamic downscaling through the graphics card is still well taking up performance.

3) Overall just use the same resolution as your monitor supports and you are golden or use less than for performance reasons.

 

Than after all that well the final non-cost solution that is worth doing is removing some mods, that might come down to preference but what we should look at are big asset mods first because we can alter them like I said above, meshes/textures its possible to pack them up or scale them down so get too it

 

After that step, we start looking at mods that introduce way too much assets for NPC's to randomly appear with, a lot of these are not properly packed into groups in the ESP, so when a NPC appears every version of that NPC loads into "memory" which when memory starved will cause lag.

 

IF using an ENB, we want to consider using a program called "NotePad ++"

-using that we open the ENBseries configuration file,

-CTRL-F, brings up the find command

-Type into the field prompt, "quality"

-IF I remember correctly the numbers for quality range from -2, -1 , 0 , 1 , 2

-I think that higher is performance and lower negative value is quality

-So altering that towards performance should help with lag

 

Also consider that breast physics do in fact hurt performance....I know horrible truth, SMP or whatever bounce...Although some of the CBP options have least impact.

Thing is when you have enough RAM and VRAM that issue or weird laggy bounce people reports well it goes away completely....Same with disappearing bodies although it can still happen as a result of rapid FPS shift for zoomy PC from 50FPS to say 110FPS, I've addressed those issues too, locking FPS at a decent high enough FPS amount will resolve such issue in most cases people just lock in 60 FPS.

 

Well these are the major sources that hurt performance I can think of off the top of my head atm, hope that helps and if I think of anything else well I will write it down.

 

EDIT,

Dont watch movies, heck I think Fo4 hates having a web browser open even not sure why....

Gets along fine with discord and playing a movie someone posted in discord no idea why.

Edited August 29, 2022 by Gameplayer

[Gameplayer]

I would not use an outfit manager mod with Devious Devices, that seems like a real good way to run into odd issues because DDI wants to manage what the female characters including player female wear.

 

Amazing Follower Tweaks, with legendary edition was heck of a good mod....But in SkyrimSE I ended up running into a buggy mess with it, can not even remember the issues now was months back....I switched over to another Follower Manager called, "Nether's Follower Framework" turned out to be a really great framework mod, really outstanding module cannot suggest it enough. also it makes this mod here redundant, My Home Is Your Home.esp

 

IF your using a true first person mod, I suggest uninstalling it...I found that those crashed a lot using a program called dotnetframework that works with PRE-AE version of Skyrim, the program identified that a first person mod I was using was crashing the game consistently every hour of play.

 

There are numorous High Heel mods that fix the elevation issue with furniture, the only one that I found did not cause issues or randomly stop working was "Racemenu High Heels Fixes"

 

SMIM, alters pretty much every single base mesh in the game....Basically every object is times 10 number of polygons.  This will hurt performance immensely, however packing it with Cathedral Assets Optimizer may help the PC handle these assets and have an effect on overall performance.  Still be aware its known cause to hurt performance and it may be ideal to simply remove from the load order.

 

Wet and Cold, is well known to cause troubles for PC's that dont pack enough oomph, and well consider removing this to improve gameplay performance....There are quite a few alternatives now that use SKSE functions such as RASS and others....That do quite a good job and perform faster.

 

Run for your Lives should not be used alongside Immersive Citizens because IC has all the same functions and honestly does it better we are begging for issues running both in tandom.

 

FNISSexyMove.esp  Really amazing mod, although there are now quite a lot of better alternatives that do this through Dynamic Animation Replacer framework...Which you really should consider using instead.

 

Convenient Horses.esp

Never again will I use this mod, does way too many things and that will hurt performance.

 

Devious Devices,

Will hurt performance, though I can understand wanting to use it in a playthrough.

 

EstrusChaurus.esp

Numerus problamatic reports dealing with performance....Though it may be patched by now dont know.

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

13 hours ago, Gameplayer said:

 

So what kind of computer are we talking about?

 

You did mention that you upgraded your video card?  So what did you upgrade too? 

 

SkyrimSE and Fallout 4, are well couple of games that need a lot of free memory to run real well.

So I'll start by providing some hard numbers on RAM,

 

SkyrimSE and Fo4 use about 15-16 Gigs of RAM pretty consistently,

Not all modern games will use 16 Gigs like these two, examples

 

Cyberpunk 2077 will use about 10 an 1/2 Gigs of RAM, wont go any higher.

Total War Warhammer Fantasy 3, about 10....Wish it would use more because it literally will adjust between load screens means it changes over the assets in memory rather than just use more RAM which would make it faster.

Red Dead Redemption uses about 10

Star Citizen, I dont play it but have seen the reports that it can use as much as 48 Gigs worth.

Ballpark though a lot of current games use about 10-11 Gigs of RAM, its not 16 like I thought.

 

For the most part gotta sit down an figure out just how much RAM your system uses, Windows and Steam both scale a bit....However you can actually shut down a lot of the programs that Win10 uses with a debloater script which will free up a lot of memory and also Steam can be launched in a mini-mode that caps off its usage down to about 40KB memory.  Which is substantial amount of memory savings because both of those can scale up to about 8 Gigs and 2 Gigs of memory just to run in the background.

Lazy way is to basically slot in about 32 Gigs and call it good, its lazy but it involves a lot less effect on program side.

Thing is that too provide a full 16 Gigs of memory you would need to have a PC that has slightly more than 16 total like about 24 Gigs worth....Since Dimms have to be paired to function properly that would mean having like 6 Dimm slots with 4GB each to have 24 these would be DDR3.  DDR4 does not come with 4GB option, I think its just 8,16, and 32 Modules.  Its alright getting 32 Gigs is pretty cheap its about 80 - 120 bucks and its a great upgrade overall.

 

I would suggest,

That since this appears to be the PC struggling with so many mods, we first have a look at sprucing it up a bit with 

"Windows10 Debloater" its easy to find in search engine also I listed a whole bunch of links and info about this stuff in Steam is Eating your memory linked in my signiture.

Also make sure all your updates for Win10 are installed and of course proper drivers for the video card, after all you upgraded so make sure you have proper new driver as well.

Then maybe check your motherboard manufacturer for updated drivers as well, does not happen often but on my PC the update meant a lot.

 

Then we can look at say using Cathedral Optimizer a program to package your Texture files into proper BSA format should help, 

However what would really help is if you say cut down the resolution size of the Texture files to proper match the resolution scaling you actually use on your PC!

1) IF you use 1080p, than using 2K and/or 4K is just file bloat and sure the files can be downsized to the resolution of the game BUT, that means your using a file that is about 3-5 times larger than it needs to be and it takes up RAM space memory!

2) dynamic downscaling through the graphics card is still well taking up performance.

3) Overall just use the same resolution as your monitor supports and you are golden or use less than for performance reasons.

 

Than after all that well the final non-cost solution that is worth doing is removing some mods, that might come down to preference but what we should look at are big asset mods first because we can alter them like I said above, meshes/textures its possible to pack them up or scale them down so get too it

 

After that step, we start looking at mods that introduce way too much assets for NPC's to randomly appear with, a lot of these are not properly packed into groups in the ESP, so when a NPC appears every version of that NPC loads into "memory" which when memory starved will cause lag.

 

IF using an ENB, we want to consider using a program called "NotePad ++"

-using that we open the ENBseries configuration file,

-CTRL-F, brings up the find command

-Type into the field prompt, "quality"

-IF I remember correctly the numbers for quality range from -2, -1 , 0 , 1 , 2

-I think that higher is performance and lower negative value is quality

-So altering that towards performance should help with lag

 

Also consider that breast physics do in fact hurt performance....I know horrible truth, SMP or whatever bounce...Although some of the CBP options have least impact.

Thing is when you have enough RAM and VRAM that issue or weird laggy bounce people reports well it goes away completely....Same with disappearing bodies although it can still happen as a result of rapid FPS shift for zoomy PC from 50FPS to say 110FPS, I've addressed those issues too, locking FPS at a decent high enough FPS amount will resolve such issue in most cases people just lock in 60 FPS.

 

Well these are the major sources that hurt performance I can think of off the top of my head atm, hope that helps and if I think of anything else well I will write it down.

 

EDIT,

Dont watch movies, heck I think Fo4 hates having a web browser open even not sure why....

Gets along fine with discord and playing a movie someone posted in discord no idea why.

ok, so to answer the first 2 questions: 

Processor    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor                 3.59 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
and i moved from an RTX 1660 to an RTX 3080ti. That's why I am so confused, because my setup is pretty good, and the fact that going all the wat to  3080ti showed no improvement whatsoever pretty definitively shows that it isn't an issue with that at the very least. For the memory side of things, 32GB should be enough. 

[Gameplayer]

1 hour ago, godwhatamIdoingwithmylife said:

ok, so to answer the first 2 questions: 

Processor    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor                 3.59 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
and i moved from an RTX 1660 to an RTX 3080ti. That's why I am so confused, because my setup is pretty good, and the fact that going all the wat to  3080ti showed no improvement whatsoever pretty definitively shows that it isn't an issue with that at the very least. For the memory side of things, 32GB should be enough. 

 

Your issue would then have to be a poor choice or combination of mods.

There may be issues that we have not determined yet.

 

Such as which version of SkyrimSE are you actually playing?

There is SkyrimSE which requires using a downloader helper that is available on Nexus and there is a downgrader by same author.

I dont have the link atm, nor the special link for the correct version of Unofficial Patch.

Its just how it is at the moment, but using the SkyrimAE will certainly cause issues with mods that are meant for SkyrimSE version.

 

So need you to confirm which version of the game you are working with...After that I might suggest that you actually set the game to hidden on STEAM to prevent all possible self updating...This "hides" SkyrimSE from your normal library spot in STEAM.

 

Once you know what version of the game you have...Then you gotta go back an check to make sure that you have all the correct mod downloads specially for Loverslab Sex Mods because well there usually is a FORK, meaning there are two different versions of the mods.  It can be confusing and yes a lot of us have dealt with downloading that one mod that was meant for the other version of the game.

 

The reality is that with DDR4 RAM say between oh 2100-3200 MHz and a 3080Ti it should be possible to get 2K resolution in the 50-110 FPS range, in fact you would have to force cap the FPS so that your SMP physics doesnt cause the characters to just disappear and the in game havoc physics to just go bonkers....Actually sudden FPS changes like that can also cause papyrus scripts to go haywire as well.

 

Only way to know if that is an issue is to actually use a 3rd party program to monitor the FPS shifts while you play the game, but this has happened before here in the Tech Support withen the last month with a player I helped out.

 

Anyway I did look through that mod list some, I dont know all the mods there to be honest...But I did see some issues with your choices and I listed them in a post above this one.

Edited August 29, 2022 by Gameplayer

[Gameplayer]

I dont have a lot more to add,

Just looked through the load order again,

 

Saw Campfire in there and of course this time I looked an saw that you had the 4 free Creation Club content mods installed.

So my thought was are you actually using them?

 

See the Survival CC does not actually work with Campfire without a set of patches....

 

Now for my own game I thought man that is a lot of extra stuff an work that I dont need....So I packed up the 4 Creation Club mods into ZIP files then installed them like any other mod into Mod Organizer....Then just unticked their boxes, so that they are not doing anything to my game but I got them for later if ever I want to use them.

 

With the patches they probably work fine but honestly Campfire plus Frostfall is just what I am familiar with and did not want to do a lot of testing with the CC content while I was getting other mods...Like from here.

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

1 hour ago, Gameplayer said:

 

Your issue would then have to be a poor choice or combination of mods.

There may be issues that we have not determined yet.

 

Such as which version of SkyrimSE are you actually playing?

There is SkyrimSE which requires using a downloader helper that is available on Nexus and there is a downgrader by same author.

I dont have the link atm, nor the special link for the correct version of Unofficial Patch.

Its just how it is at the moment, but using the SkyrimAE will certainly cause issues with mods that are meant for SkyrimSE version.

 

So need you to confirm which version of the game you are working with...After that I might suggest that you actually set the game to hidden on STEAM to prevent all possible self updating...This "hides" SkyrimSE from your normal library spot in STEAM.

 

Once you know what version of the game you have...Then you gotta go back an check to make sure that you have all the correct mod downloads specially for Loverslab Sex Mods because well there usually is a FORK, meaning there are two different versions of the mods.  It can be confusing and yes a lot of us have dealt with downloading that one mod that was meant for the other version of the game.

 

The reality is that with DDR4 RAM say between oh 2100-3200 MHz and a 3080Ti it should be possible to get 2K resolution in the 50-110 FPS range, in fact you would have to force cap the FPS so that your SMP physics doesnt cause the characters to just disappear and the in game havoc physics to just go bonkers....Actually sudden FPS changes like that can also cause papyrus scripts to go haywire as well.

 

Only way to know if that is an issue is to actually use a 3rd party program to monitor the FPS shifts while you play the game, but this has happened before here in the Tech Support withen the last month with a player I helped out.

 

Anyway I did look through that mod list some, I dont know all the mods there to be honest...But I did see some issues with your choices and I listed them in a post above this one.

I have my game hidden and on v 1.5.97.0. I went through all the downgrading stuff when it updated to anniversary edition. I will try messing with the mods you talked about in your previous post.

Edited August 29, 2022 by godwhatamIdoingwithmylife

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

On 8/29/2022 at 2:40 AM, Gameplayer said:

I would not use an outfit manager mod with Devious Devices, that seems like a real good way to run into odd issues because DDI wants to manage what the female characters including player female wear.

 

Amazing Follower Tweaks, with legendary edition was heck of a good mod....But in SkyrimSE I ended up running into a buggy mess with it, can not even remember the issues now was months back....I switched over to another Follower Manager called, "Nether's Follower Framework" turned out to be a really great framework mod, really outstanding module cannot suggest it enough. also it makes this mod here redundant, My Home Is Your Home.esp

 

IF your using a true first person mod, I suggest uninstalling it...I found that those crashed a lot using a program called dotnetframework that works with PRE-AE version of Skyrim, the program identified that a first person mod I was using was crashing the game consistently every hour of play.

 

There are numorous High Heel mods that fix the elevation issue with furniture, the only one that I found did not cause issues or randomly stop working was "Racemenu High Heels Fixes"

 

SMIM, alters pretty much every single base mesh in the game....Basically every object is times 10 number of polygons.  This will hurt performance immensely, however packing it with Cathedral Assets Optimizer may help the PC handle these assets and have an effect on overall performance.  Still be aware its known cause to hurt performance and it may be ideal to simply remove from the load order.

 

Wet and Cold, is well known to cause troubles for PC's that dont pack enough oomph, and well consider removing this to improve gameplay performance....There are quite a few alternatives now that use SKSE functions such as RASS and others....That do quite a good job and perform faster.

 

Run for your Lives should not be used alongside Immersive Citizens because IC has all the same functions and honestly does it better we are begging for issues running both in tandom.

 

FNISSexyMove.esp  Really amazing mod, although there are now quite a lot of better alternatives that do this through Dynamic Animation Replacer framework...Which you really should consider using instead.

 

Convenient Horses.esp

Never again will I use this mod, does way too many things and that will hurt performance.

 

Devious Devices,

Will hurt performance, though I can understand wanting to use it in a playthrough.

 

EstrusChaurus.esp

Numerus problamatic reports dealing with performance....Though it may be patched by now dont know.

Sorry for taking so long to respond. I have tried a bunch of things, first, I actually had some hardware problems where I installed a memory stick in the wrong slot, so I fixed that. I also uninstalled some of the mods you talked about. It has helped a little, I am getting about 4-5 fps more than before, but I am still getting lag. The thing I don't understand is that I have played with generally these same mods enabled in the past and not had any issues, which is why it's so strange that it's happening now. 

[Gameplayer]

12 hours ago, godwhatamIdoingwithmylife said:

Sorry for taking so long to respond. I have tried a bunch of things, first, I actually had some hardware problems where I installed a memory stick in the wrong slot, so I fixed that. I also uninstalled some of the mods you talked about. It has helped a little, I am getting about 4-5 fps more than before, but I am still getting lag. The thing I don't understand is that I have played with generally these same mods enabled in the past and not had any issues, which is why it's so strange that it's happening now. 

 

Well I have installed hardware incorrectly on my own PC been there done that, and I know it can cause some issues with FPS and possibly is related to stutters.

 

I found CPU-Z, is really a good program for checking the actual perimeters of how the hardware is behaving compared to say Win10 Taskmanager, which often gives a different reading than I expect.  Specifically for RAM speed, Taskmanager gives me mostly the stats of my PC without its overclock while CPUz will spit out exact OC the hardware is currently set to run up to as well as current clocks and speeds.

 

I mention CPUz only so that well you might be able to pin down and prove the PC is in a good state or keep tinkering away on it.

 

I think Alda64 also may have some free period, its good for stress testing the CPU, RAM, and GPU.

3D Mark meh mostly it just gives scores not sure might be useful with before tweak an after tweak compare the scores make decisions, also its free as well.

 

As far as your mods go well,

At some point as we load up our game with a heck of a lot of graphics mods the one thing to bear in mind even if we have enough excess RAM memory or/and very fast RAM speeds is that the game will use up too 16 Gigs of Memory only.  So it is possible to weight the game down with very large mod assets, an example of that already in your LO is SMIM itself.

Now using an optimizer such as Cathedral Assets Optimizer, will reduce the size of the assets by a heck of a lot, talking about packing it all into BSA format so an unpacked mod like SMIM goes from about several gigs in size to about 1/3 of its size.  Seriously it packs even better than 7zip does which is really saying something about this method of packing game files up.  I have personally packed VTAW Wardrobe textures that came in at 21 Gigs and got a BSA file that was 7 Gigs in size....At the same texture quality.

 

Now I could tell you had SMIM cause it is an ESP in your LO, but what I cannot see is that TEXTURE Mod Overhaul you are using which given you have SMIM might also have a 2K/4K/8K texture overhaul and yes from what I understand that 8K exists somewhere on the internet at least only heard about it....I know a lot of 4K stuff exists.  These Texture overhauls that completely replace all the default stuff in the game all come in at a much larger file size than the default game files which BTW are all default game files are small plus these are packed into BSA so even smaller RAM memory use to boot.

 

Good RAM memory management in the game will mean that there should be less stutter and better FPS especailly with your SPEC, should be much better than normal.  Its entirely possible that you should be getting in 1440p max graphics with mods and enb about Minimum 60 FPS and high's of who knows or cares cause only 60FPS in this game really matters.

 

Only other thing I can think of that would be self inflicted besides mods or maybe the PC having an incorrect configuration is that you might be running a movie or Youtube or some other broadcast in the background and sometimes just having an internet page open can disagree with a bethesada game....Not discord in my experience though an I have no idea why either.

 

Cathedral Assets Optimizer,

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316

 

Anyway, Best of Luck hope you get all working soon.

[godwhatamIdoingwithmylife]

On 9/4/2022 at 3:45 AM, Gameplayer said:

 

Well I have installed hardware incorrectly on my own PC been there done that, and I know it can cause some issues with FPS and possibly is related to stutters.

 

I found CPU-Z, is really a good program for checking the actual perimeters of how the hardware is behaving compared to say Win10 Taskmanager, which often gives a different reading than I expect.  Specifically for RAM speed, Taskmanager gives me mostly the stats of my PC without its overclock while CPUz will spit out exact OC the hardware is currently set to run up to as well as current clocks and speeds.

 

I mention CPUz only so that well you might be able to pin down and prove the PC is in a good state or keep tinkering away on it.

 

I think Alda64 also may have some free period, its good for stress testing the CPU, RAM, and GPU.

3D Mark meh mostly it just gives scores not sure might be useful with before tweak an after tweak compare the scores make decisions, also its free as well.

 

As far as your mods go well,

At some point as we load up our game with a heck of a lot of graphics mods the one thing to bear in mind even if we have enough excess RAM memory or/and very fast RAM speeds is that the game will use up too 16 Gigs of Memory only.  So it is possible to weight the game down with very large mod assets, an example of that already in your LO is SMIM itself.

Now using an optimizer such as Cathedral Assets Optimizer, will reduce the size of the assets by a heck of a lot, talking about packing it all into BSA format so an unpacked mod like SMIM goes from about several gigs in size to about 1/3 of its size.  Seriously it packs even better than 7zip does which is really saying something about this method of packing game files up.  I have personally packed VTAW Wardrobe textures that came in at 21 Gigs and got a BSA file that was 7 Gigs in size....At the same texture quality.

 

Now I could tell you had SMIM cause it is an ESP in your LO, but what I cannot see is that TEXTURE Mod Overhaul you are using which given you have SMIM might also have a 2K/4K/8K texture overhaul and yes from what I understand that 8K exists somewhere on the internet at least only heard about it....I know a lot of 4K stuff exists.  These Texture overhauls that completely replace all the default stuff in the game all come in at a much larger file size than the default game files which BTW are all default game files are small plus these are packed into BSA so even smaller RAM memory use to boot.

 

Good RAM memory management in the game will mean that there should be less stutter and better FPS especailly with your SPEC, should be much better than normal.  Its entirely possible that you should be getting in 1440p max graphics with mods and enb about Minimum 60 FPS and high's of who knows or cares cause only 60FPS in this game really matters.

 

Only other thing I can think of that would be self inflicted besides mods or maybe the PC having an incorrect configuration is that you might be running a movie or Youtube or some other broadcast in the background and sometimes just having an internet page open can disagree with a bethesada game....Not discord in my experience though an I have no idea why either.

 

Cathedral Assets Optimizer,

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316

 

Anyway, Best of Luck hope you get all working soon.

I figured out one issue and that was I had my memory installed incorrectly, so it was only using one of the 2 sticks. Fixing that helped a ton, and now i am at the point where i get pretty good FPS most of the time (not perfect, still a little below 60), and it drops to about 50 in the worst areas. I will check out what you talked about to see if I can get that last little push I need to have smooth 60 all the time.

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6 hours ago, godwhatamIdoingwithmylife said:

I figured out one issue and that was I had my memory installed incorrectly, so it was only using one of the 2 sticks. Fixing that helped a ton, and now i am at the point where i get pretty good FPS most of the time (not perfect, still a little below 60), and it drops to about 50 in the worst areas. I will check out what you talked about to see if I can get that last little push I need to have smooth 60 all the time.

Sounds awesome!

 

Now just remember, that although I have a nice PC....When I tell you that people get 50-110 FPS with similar hardware to yours.....That is that is what I have read from other people here playing SkyrimSE not personal experience.

 

My own hardware....Get about 50-60FPS at 2K res and well I have a whole lot of mods installed at the moment, SMIM and 2K textures with parralax top that off with Dyndolod.

After that well the core of my game is actually centered on Nemesis combat mods such as SkySA and Inquisitor Mage Combat Animations.

 

Got a friend I talk with on Discord, he has all new hardware with a RTX 3060, gets about 50-80 an tells me that Skyrim SE still has problem area's from its LE days but at least its not as bad same machine on LE....He was playing with LE for well all the way up to this summer an saw me playing a lot of SE an wondered what the hell made Skyrim so much fun all of sudden.

 

True Directional Movement,

SkySA

DAR

 

Get some combat animations packages for SkySA and a controller pad.....Been like playing a whole new combat game.

Tried some adult mods, but found not to use any of those with the combat system like defeat or battlefuck....Just let my non-adult overhauls do their thing with combat and so use eagerNPC or Amorous for those sorts of things.  Game runs pretty smooth and has whole new experience.