NobodyCares4242 Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) Hair often shows as invisible, with any part of the character covered by the hair also being completely transparent. I'm currently using KS hairdos, however this has also occurred with vanilla hair. I'm not using HDT hair, so I doubt it's any sort of physics bug. This seems to happen whenever I unequip my armour, when removing the helmet the hair will show as normal while the UI's open, but as soon as I close the inventory menu it'll show like this. When this is happening shadows are also visible through my character, as shown in the screenshot. I don't know a great deal about this stuff but it's kinda like it's being rendered on the wrong layer (?). This isn't limited to specific cells like some hair bugs I've seen while researching, it's happened in all interior and exterior cells I've tested in. It's something that only started happening a good way into the save, past level 30. I have no saves from before this started to load back on so I can't try that. My best guess is it's still trying to hide the hair as if I'm wearing a helmet even though it's unequipped. I've noticed that if I remove all my armour, quicksave and reload my character will be wearing the helmet when i reload, even though I unequipped it before saving. However this bug will still occur even when I have no helmets in my inventory. I've also looked into a few different KS hairdos bugs, and edited the .nif file for the hairstyle I'm using as recommended by a few of those threads. It didn't fix anything, and as mentioned earlier I've since noticed this happening with vanilla hair as well. I've also resorted my load order with LOOT to no effect I put a strike through all the helmet related stuff because I've now noticed slavetats also render transparently, so I think it's an entirely different issue. My load order and a screenshot are below. Spoiler 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 06 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 07 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 08 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 09 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.2.6a] 0A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0B SexLab.esm [Version 1.63] 0C SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.9] 0D CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.1.0] 0E ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0F Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm [Version 2.05.021] 10 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm 11 SGEyebrows.esp 12 SkyUI_SE.esp 13 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 14 RaceMenu.esp 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 16 SOSRaceMenu.esp 17 XPMSE.esp 18 SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 7] 19 UIExtensions.esp 1A CBBE.esp 1B RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 1C SL_shrines.esp 1D SexLabTools.esp 1E SLAnimLoader.esp 1F SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 20 AnubAnimObj.esp 21 HentaiCreatures.esp 22 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 3.1.11] 23 SnoipehMoreCreatures.esp 24 MoreNastyCritters.esp 25 BakaFactoryABC.esp 26 SLALAnimObj.esp 27 SlaveTats.esp 28 RapeTattoos.esp 29 FadeTattoos.esp 2A FNIS.esp 2B Public Whore.esp 2C Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 2D SimpleSlavery.esp 2E Prison.esp 2F Schlongs of Skyrim.esp [Version 1.0.4] 30 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 31 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 32 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 33 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] 34 Brows.esp 35 KS Hairdo's.esp 36 Vivid WeathersSE.esp 37 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 38 Skyrim Teens.esp 39 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 3A Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] 3B UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 2.2.0] 3C LazyItemHiderRedux.esp 3D NibblesAnimObjects.esp 3E SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 3F SLATE.esp 40 PsycheAnimationObjects.esp 41 SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp 42 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 43 Eyes of Aber.esp 44 12FemaleBrows.esp 45 StojaMakeupPack.esp 46 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 47 KomAnimObjects.esp [Version 1.1] 48 KomAnimScaler.esp 49 CWRepairs.esp [Version 2.5.2] 4A TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 4B PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp 4C SLDragons.esp 4D zDarkArena.esp 4E Naked Defeat.esp 4F RewardYourFollowers.esp 50 CW_Enjia.esp 51 FNISspells.esp 52 noCamColl_2_SE.esp 53 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 54 CWR_IC_Patch.esp 55 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 4.1.4] 56 RealisticWaterTwo.esp Edited August 29, 2022 by NobodyCares4242 title change
Andy14 Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 21 hours ago, NobodyCares4242 said: I've noticed that if I remove all my armour, quicksave and reload my character will be wearing the helmet when i reload, even though I unequipped it before saving. This suggests that some spell/magic effect is stuck to your character. In these cases, the kill command in the console sometimes helps. Skyrim will then load the last save before dying, but will remove some stuck effects from the character in the process. Open console -> click on player -> type kill -> press enter What happens if you equip a completely different helmet before saving?
NobodyCares4242 Posted June 27, 2022 Author Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Andy14 said: This suggests that some spell/magic effect is stuck to your character. In these cases, the kill command in the console sometimes helps. Skyrim will then load the last save before dying, but will remove some stuck effects from the character in the process. Open console -> click on player -> type kill -> press enter What happens if you equip a completely different helmet before saving? Equipping a different helmet changes nothing, except that it's the different helmet that gets re-equipped after loading. Using the kill command doesn't change anything either, although I didn't expect it to. I strongly suspect this is a rendering bug of some sort, rather than a spell effect. I've also tried using sisme0, which afaik should stop all spell effects from being visible, and it didn't do anything. Which is why I don't think it's a spell effect. Edited June 27, 2022 by NobodyCares4242
Andy14 Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 30 minutes ago, NobodyCares4242 said: Equipping a different helmet changes nothing, except that it's the different helmet that gets re-equipped after loading. Using the kill command doesn't change anything either, although I didn't expect it to. I strongly suspect this is a rendering bug of some sort, rather than a spell effect. I've also tried using sisme0, which afaik should stop all spell effects from being visible, and it didn't do anything. Which is why I don't think it's a spell effect. So a script that puts on the helmet at game load? What happens if you don't have a helmet in your inventory ) Papyrus.log ) ?
Tlam99 Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Go to Riverwood thieves guild face sculpter or open racemenu via console. If there is a helmet, you will see it. Close and make a new save. Do not make or use quicksaves Btw, checking for a bug you should exit the game and reload a save. Reload a save or even a quicksave on running game might not load a corrected bug. Also not recommended on ongoig game. Never reload, always exit, restart and load. Edited June 27, 2022 by Tlam99
NobodyCares4242 Posted August 29, 2022 Author Posted August 29, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 3:57 PM, Andy14 said: So a script that puts on the helmet at game load? What happens if you don't have a helmet in your inventory ) Papyrus.log ) ? If I don't have a helmet in my inventory the hair bug still occurs, just without the helmet ever being requipped. TBH I regret ever mentioning the helmet thing, I;m not even entirely sure if it's related to the actual issue which is both hair (and slavetats as I just noticed) rendering transparently, but every response I've got is focusing on the helmet.
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