Edit sexlab animation tag

[StableBot]

What I'm trying to do, is allow MFF to use MMF animations. I tried using SLATE to delete the tag, but the label I can select is different from the actual animation tag. There's no 'MMF' from the selected options only 'FMM'.  Selecting that, which is the closet thing, results in nothing getting deleted.

 

I also attempted to manually deleting/changing the tag from the animation json file, still doesn't work. Even registering all the animations again, it still showing up with the MMF tag in sexlab. I'm I doing something wrong here? How can I delete a certain tag so that any animation, as long as there enough actor, will play.

 

Is there an easy way to just disable gender restriction in general? I want it so as long as there's enough actor, the animation will plays.

 

Thanks ahead of time.

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by noobshi

[Gukahn]

38 minutes ago, noobshi said:

FMM

Which should be the Same as MMF just in reverse. Tag naming is weird.. Did you try it out with it?

 

38 minutes ago, noobshi said:

Is there an easy way to just disable gender restriction in general? I want it so as long as there's enough actor, the animation will plays.

Should be in Sexlabs MCM i think. Somewhere in Animation Setting

Edited June 25, 2022 by Gukahn

[StableBot]

1 hour ago, Gukahn said:

Which should be the Same as MMF just in reverse. Tag naming is weird.. Did you try it out with it?

 

Should be in Sexlabs MCM i think. Somewhere in Animation Setting

The first 2 picture is what happen after I deleted 'FMM' using SLATE. Nothing got removed from that list, and the tag remain in those animation. I test it out afterward with 1 male and 2 females. Those supposedly added MMF wasn't part of the list when searching with Sexlab Tool.

Edited June 25, 2022 by noobshi

[Gukahn]

12 minutes ago, noobshi said:

The first 2 picture is what happen after I deleted 'FMM' using SLATE. Nothing got removed from that list, and the tag remain in those animation. I test it out afterward with 1 male and 2 females. Those supposedly added MMF wasn't part of the list when searching with Sexlab Tool.

Damn, sorry to hear that

 

[Seijin8]

34 minutes ago, noobshi said:

The first 2 picture is what happen after I deleted 'FMM' using SLATE. Nothing got removed from that list, and the tag remain in those animation.

Because Sexlab itself re-adds them.

 

When using a mix of male and female actors Sexlab will look to place a female in the first spot (sexactor0) and the male in the last spot, and fill the rest of the list by gender.  FFM and MFF are the same only in the sense that once Sexlab looks at it, the tag gets added and is promptly ignored by the system because it isn't reading tags to figure this out.

 

Now, not all animators make their animations this way, so the actors will almost always fill the list incorrectly.

 

If you deselect actor genders in the Sexlab MCM, then it can potentially fill in whatever way you want, but sometimes it won't fill the positions the way you expect and thats because there are no standards for animation construction in this sense.

 

tl;dr: the tags you are removing have zero effect on Sexlab's function.

Edited June 25, 2022 by Seijin8

[Gukahn]

48 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

tl;dr: the tags you are removing have zero effect on Sexlab's function.

Sorry but i have to Hijack this here for a second cause i wanted to do something like that myself. If i were to change an FF and Futa Animation into straight, that would have an effect or wouldn't it? ? (complete different question but if you are already here...)

[Seijin8]

2 hours ago, Gukahn said:

Sorry but i have to Hijack this here for a second cause i wanted to do something like that myself. If i were to change an FF and Futa Animation into straight, that would have an effect or wouldn't it? ? (complete different question but if you are already here...)

 

Potentially yes, but I'm curious:  Change how?  If it is just tags, then... depends on the method being used to start the animation, so not reliably.  (Ignoring that futa and male pen alignments are not the same and anims made for one will rarely line up right for the other.)

 

To do it (ignoring alignment problems), you'd probably have to make new FNIS/SLAL entries for it.  In the SLAL, change the "type" from female to male (for straight), or add the futa tag (which may do nothing depending on how the scene is initiated -- most reliably way to get futa working with a straight animation is to use the "treat as male" option in the SL MCM).

 

Keep in mind that I'm still on LE.  Maybe the newer SE versions of SL can do it natively?  Dunno.

[Gukahn]

1 minute ago, Seijin8 said:

Potentially yes, but I'm curious:  Change how?

Simply just as you described. Making it just get called for Male x Female by getting rid of the FF and Futa Tags ?

 

2 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

Keep in mind that I'm still on LE.  Maybe the newer SE versions of SL can do it natively?  Dunno.

I will research on the matter after trying it with the simplest of things (just changing tags) later and most likely failing. If it however works.. Then either Slate or Sexlab do things a little different on SE (which i really doubt ?)

[Seijin8]

3 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

getting rid of the FF and Futa Tags

 

Futa as a tag isn't something SL natively notices or handles.  There is a mechanism when registering an animation that tells it what genders to use in the animation.  For that, the tags are meaningless.  If you look into the SLAL jsons for animations, there's a line called "type", and those lines are what Sexlab is actually reading to find the gender info.  If you remove the FF tag and run the anim, first thing SL will do is check the anim to see if it is FF, and if it is, will re-add that tag itself.

 

(That's in a sense what is happening to the OP.)

[StableBot]

9 hours ago, Seijin8 said:

Because Sexlab itself re-adds them.

 

When using a mix of male and female actors Sexlab will look to place a female in the first spot (sexactor0) and the male in the last spot, and fill the rest of the list by gender.  FFM and MFF are the same only in the sense that once Sexlab looks at it, the tag gets added and is promptly ignored by the system because it isn't reading tags to figure this out.

 

Now, not all animators make their animations this way, so the actors will almost always fill the list incorrectly.

 

If you deselect actor genders in the Sexlab MCM, then it can potentially fill in whatever way you want, but sometimes it won't fill the positions the way you expect and thats because there are no standards for animation construction in this sense.

 

tl;dr: the tags you are removing have zero effect on Sexlab's function.

How do I disable gender in Sexlab MCM? There's only two option I can select from 'Male' or 'Female'. I tried overwriting SL preference with SLEN, but that's what I already started with. As you can see non of the MMF or FMM get listed. I'm triggering 3-4 actors scene using SLEN, idk if it will be different if it's Mass Match Maker.

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by noobshi

[Seijin8]

5 hours ago, noobshi said:

How do I disable gender in Sexlab MCM?

 

You already have all the filters turned off that affect this.  Maybe tagging "females use strapons" would change the sorting, but I doubt it.

 

Beyond that, you aren't going to end up with a list that is looking simultaneously for MMF and FFM animations because Sexlab uses boolean sorting.  The only way to end up with both results mixed that I know of is to have the animation sorting process build two lists and combine them before launching the animation.

 

Anyway, most of the behaviors happening to produce that list are from whatever mod you're using to trigger SL scenes.  I guess that would be SLEN in this case.  Other mods/systems (like SL Tools) might provide different results.

[StableBot]

4 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

 

You already have all the filters turned off that affect this.  Maybe tagging "females use strapons" would change the sorting, but I doubt it.

 

Beyond that, you aren't going to end up with a list that is looking simultaneously for MMF and FFM animations because Sexlab uses boolean sorting.  The only way to end up with both results mixed that I know of is to have the animation sorting process build two lists and combine them before launching the animation.

 

Anyway, most of the behaviors happening to produce that list are from whatever mod you're using to trigger SL scenes.  I guess that would be SLEN in this case.  Other mods/systems (like SL Tools) might provide different results.

So if I'm only going to use SLEN to trigger 3-4 actors animation, can I modify SLEN itself to accept both list?

[Seijin8]

5 hours ago, noobshi said:

So if I'm only going to use SLEN to trigger 3-4 actors animation, can I modify SLEN itself to accept both list?

 

Sure, if you know scripting well enough.  Not sure that I would recommend it tho.  Its just a matter of figuring out all the if/elseif/else options that you would prefer to see happen.

[StableBot]

15 hours ago, Seijin8 said:

 

Sure, if you know scripting well enough.  Not sure that I would recommend it tho.  Its just a matter of figuring out all the if/elseif/else options that you would prefer to see happen.

Dang, I was really hoping for an easy hacked solution for this. I did notice though that MMF does trigger with Defeat even when it's MMF. I guess it's more immersive this way. Thank you for your insight on this.