biinnoc9 Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 At some point in the game I see a big flash where the screen lights up as if a bomb went off and freezes the game as seen in this screenshot. It unfreezes when I use the Pipboy menu, but there's no sound after. I don't know what caused it, but any help would be appreciated if there a way to fix this problem
Gameplayer Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 Wow so much to go on with all the information provided. Best guess, Your save is toast because you have been adding and removing scripted/strings related mods without a care. Next best guess, Your missing files from mods that were requirements but did not have an EMS/ESP or ESL listed as a master which is how you managed to boot the game but since the files that are required are missing when the game calls on said file the game freezes up. None of that is really going to be that helpful since, well its not a solid "its this mod that is causing the issue" or some such. You should really consider having a long hard look at that load order of yours and think about if you should rollback quite a bit to when you remember things were actually working and YES start a new character. Not that from the looks of it you got all that far that looks like Concord.
biinnoc9 Posted May 22, 2022 Author Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Gameplayer said: Wow so much to go on with all the information provided. Best guess, Your save is toast because you have been adding and removing scripted/strings related mods without a care. Next best guess, Your missing files from mods that were requirements but did not have an EMS/ESP or ESL listed as a master which is how you managed to boot the game but since the files that are required are missing when the game calls on said file the game freezes up. None of that is really going to be that helpful since, well its not a solid "its this mod that is causing the issue" or some such. You should really consider having a long hard look at that load order of yours and think about if you should rollback quite a bit to when you remember things were actually working and YES start a new character. Not that from the looks of it you got all that far that looks like Concord. Tried a new game and still have the same problem. The thing is that I have the requirements for all of my mods and I used LOOT to handle the load order. Do you think that mod scrips that had been overwritten maybe the cause? if so, how do you prevent mod scripts from being overwritten?
steelpanther24 Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 6 hours ago, biinnoc9 said: Tried a new game and still have the same problem. The thing is that I have the requirements for all of my mods and I used LOOT to handle the load order. Do you think that mod scrips that had been overwritten maybe the cause? if so, how do you prevent mod scripts from being overwritten? I know you have been on LL for a while, but.... you seem to miss @Gameplayer's point. You need to include your mod list. Also since yours is a graphics issue, you should also include your GPU stats. Finally the only thing I will add to what was already suggested is you double check your GPU drivers and make sure they are up to date. I am thinking your issue is either an ENB issue, GPU issue or a mod issue, in that order.
Gameplayer Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 6 hours ago, biinnoc9 said: Tried a new game and still have the same problem. The thing is that I have the requirements for all of my mods and I used LOOT to handle the load order. Do you think that mod scrips that had been overwritten maybe the cause? if so, how do you prevent mod scripts from being overwritten? Yes its actually possible to have that scenario and yes that at times results in weird issues, mods not working, and also crashes. I use Mod Organizer 2 with SkyrimLE, SkyrimSE, and Fallout 4....I think people even use MO2 with Fo3/FNV but IDK last I played those I used FOMM which was purpose built for Fo3/FNV. MO2 in regards to Skyrim/Fallout 4, has a system that shows you when you have file conflicts, overwritten files (very helpful for finding an issue even with new people), and many more features not currently present in Vortex....I am expecting Vortex to get better given that the guy that built MO2 is the lead on Vortex but so far that has not happened probably because Vortex has to handle all games rather than just Beth games. I understand that you might think you have installed all the mods properly but its often hard to identify the absence of certain mods such as those that use F4SE a fallout script extender. It would also be very helpful for people that stop into this thread if you would upload a load order basically the plug in list. However with something like a mod manager you could feasibly either just take photo's or find the txt file show "all mods" even those without plug ins. Your problem may be more obscure than I would know or have cause to know but without some better information potential posters wont know where to begin other than very basic possible situations with you. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Note, Problem persists even after starting a new game is useful information. It tells me that this is an issue with the current load order of mods rather than a lot of other potential issues that arrise during a long lasting game brought up by posters. We can rule out that removing mods mid play has been a cause, and we may begin considering that you are either using incomplete mods, have mod conflict, or very likely missing required mods/have them installed improperly.
biinnoc9 Posted May 23, 2022 Author Posted May 23, 2022 12 hours ago, steelpanther24 said: I know you have been on LL for a while, but.... you seem to miss @Gameplayer's point. You need to include your mod list. Also since yours is a graphics issue, you should also include your GPU stats. Finally the only thing I will add to what was already suggested is you double check your GPU drivers and make sure they are up to date. I am thinking your issue is either an ENB issue, GPU issue or a mod issue, in that order. Can you show me how to include my mod list since I've seen to forgotten how?
steelpanther24 Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 7 hours ago, biinnoc9 said: Can you show me how to include my mod list since I've seen to forgotten how? Depends on what mod organizer you use. I use Vortex, so if you are using MO2, someone else will have to tell you. For Vortex, find where your profiles are kept (usually they are in your main drive under users, like \Users\<username>l\AppData\Roaming\Vortex\fallout4\profiles\<profilename>) and look for two files called plugins and load order. Both are text files. The default profile name will be something random, unless you named them. Specifically, I will look at sound enhancement mods, graphic enhancement mods, and any other mods that are known to cause issues. From your description, you may have two sounds attempting to play at the same time and the game doesn't pick a winner, resulting in no sound. Since sound is called out usually in a subroutine (play sound such and such), the game "freezes" for the moment that it takes your CPU to issue the call (i.e. it is done in series, but you won't notice it unless you have low fps). However the game "catches" while it waits for that sound. You issue a command that overrides the call function (open your pip boy which usually is one of the high priority actions in the game, it stops all other call functions) which interrupts the hanged function. However, the sound........ that is what is stumping me. The call to the sound should also end as well.
biinnoc9 Posted May 23, 2022 Author Posted May 23, 2022 Here's my load order and all of the mods I've downloaded. I found the copy load order option using LOOT. Can you tell which mods may be the cause of my woes in FO4? 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm 254 FE 0 ccbgsfo4060-dgrot.esl 254 FE 1 cceejfo4002-nuka.esl 8 8 cczsef04001-bhouse.esm 9 9 cctosfo4001-neosky.esm 10 a cctosfo4002_neonflats.esm 11 b Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 12 c WorkshopFramework.esm 13 d ArmorKeywords.esm 14 e HUDFramework.esm 15 f AAF_STATS.esm 16 10 SS2.esm 17 11 SS2_XPAC_Chapter2.esm 18 12 RSE_II_Resources.esm 19 13 SettlementKeywords.esm 20 14 EthreonMasterPlan.esm 254 FE 2 CSC_NoirPenthouse_Base.esl 21 15 AAF.esm 254 FE 3 AAFThemes.esl 254 FE 4 NoirPenthouseFullSettlement.esl 22 16 TortureDevices.esm 23 17 Devious Devices.esm 254 FE 5 WashOutThatCum.esl 254 FE 6 Bememoth Separated Cart.esl 24 18 Homemaker.esm 25 19 VotWMaster.esm 26 1a four_play_resources.esm 27 1b Servitron.esm 254 FE 7 VotWSpecialVideos.esl lnrLMFO4AllInOne-AdditionalPubicHairOverlays.esl 28 1c AAFExtendedStats.esp 29 1d Vinfamy_CP.esp 30 1e AAF_GrayAnimations.esp 31 1f AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp 32 20 AAF_Spectators.esp 33 21 AAF_AutonomyEnhanced.esp 34 22 Rufgt's Animations.esp 35 23 rpampas.esp 36 24 Atomic Lust.esp 37 25 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp 38 26 Better Vendor Stalls.esp 39 27 WorkshopRearranged.esp 40 28 Generalofthearmy.esp 41 29 MinutemenPropaganda.esp 42 2a FrenchMaidFO4-CBBE.esp 43 2b LooksMirror.esp 44 2c KSHairsFemsheppingRadbeetle.esp 45 2d MadKea-01.esp 254 FE 8 sarajielsweightlessjunkredux.esp 46 2e MojaveImports.esp 47 2f Fixed_Rexford.esp 48 30 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp 49 31 _hod.esp 50 32 GoodneighborExpanded.esp 51 33 The Train.esp 52 34 starlight gardens.esp 53 35 SanctuaryHotSpringHome.esp 54 36 BetterOpenSeason.esp 55 37 MAID_by_Justice.esp 56 38 KSHairdos_oel.esp 57 39 LMBTOverlays.esp 58 3a Jumpsuit.esp 59 3b Commonwealth Captives.esp 60 3c FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp 61 3d Zaz Particles.esp 62 3e AAF_VanillaFudge.esp 63 3f Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp 64 40 Dongs_Of_Fallout - Copy.esp 65 41 Dongs_Of_Fallout.esp 254 FE 9 DD_Bench_Unlock.esp 66 42 BraveAnims.esp 67 43 Mindless_Sex.esp 68 44 MisogynistFalloutComments.esp 69 45 Perversions.esp 70 46 NudeRads.esp 71 47 RSE_II_Brothels.esp 72 48 RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp 73 49 SAC_JF2.esp 74 4a SavageCabbage_Animations.esp 75 4b SexEd.esp 76 4c ServitronStrap.esp 77 4d VIO_Strap-On.esp 78 4e Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp 79 4f ZaZOut4.esp 80 50 slaveCollar.esp 81 51 AAF_Violate.esp 82 52 FP_Prostitution.esp 254 FE a AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp 254 FE b AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp 254 FE c Alex_Stripper_Pole_2.esp 83 53 KSHairdos.esp 84 54 Rainmaker_animations.esp 85 55 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp 86 56 Slave&ModelPinup.esp 87 57 VaultGirl.esp 254 FE d Behemoth No Cart.esp 88 58 Deathclaw_nude.esp 89 59 ErectionFix_SilverPerv.esp 254 FE e SMBehemoth Loincloth.esp 90 5a ImmersiveScrapping_VaultTecWS.esp 91 5b AlternateSettlements.esp 92 5c AutoDoors.esp 93 5d MM Shelter.esp 94 5e AA FusionCityRising.esp 95 5f BloodPackCrafting.esp 96 60 W.A.T.Minutemen.esp 97 61 oberland hotsprings.esp 98 62 NightstrikerCreatureMod.esp 99 63 Settlement Resources Rebalanced.esp 100 64 F4AP.esp 101 65 Minutemenoverhaul.esp 102 66 Galaxy News Radio.esp 103 67 FreedomFlat.esp 104 68 FunctionalDisplays.esp 105 69 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp 106 6a Barbarous Continent.esp 107 6b EroticArt.esp 108 6c Lusty Lizard.esp 109 6d RealHandcuffs.esp 110 6e Beggar_Whore.esp 111 6f AttackOnArtoria01.esp 112 70 UniqueFollowers.esp 113 71 Cait CBBE Standalone 1.esp 114 72 Northland Diggers New.esp 115 73 CRX.esp 254 FE f AAF_Violate_Nightstriker_Patch.esp 254 FE 10 RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp 254 FE 11 RealHandcuffs_DD_Servitron_Compatibility.esp 116 74 FPAttributes.esp 117 75 FusionClub.esp 118 76 Boylston_Club_Settlement.esp 119 77 SS2Extended.esp 120 78 111Club3366.esp 121 79 four_play.esp 122 7a MakeYourOwnSynths.esp 123 7b FP_Autonomy.esp 124 7c RSE_II_CSA.esp 125 7d EroticArt - Expanded.esp 126 7e SS2WastelandVenturers.esp 127 7f MMAppetizer.esp 128 80 InoueLiquidFX.esp 129 81 SCEAPlaza01.esp 130 82 FCOM.esp 131 83 radiogoodneighbor2.esp 132 84 CompVictoria.esp 133 85 FP_SexualHarassment.esp 254 FE 12 AAF_Violate_FCOM_Patch.esp 134 86 AkaWaterWorld.esp 135 87 NDLWarehouseGreenhouse.esp 136 88 BNPA_NAVI Armor.esp 137 89 Prisoner Shackles.esp 138 8a OWR2_TCM.esp 139 8b CWSS Redux.esp 140 8c Headcrab_Bunny.esp 141 8d FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp 142 8e ImmersiveScrapping.esp 143 8f FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp 144 90 dcc-bp-lol.esp 145 91 AES_Renovated Furniture.esp 146 92 SettleObjExpandPack.esp 147 93 SettleObjExpandPack-AllLightShadowEnabler.esp 148 94 SettleObjExpandPack-AutoDoorsPatch.esp 149 95 AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real.esp 150 96 AlternateFurniture.esp 151 97 Northland.esp 152 98 OCDecorator.esp 153 99 Settle-SRR.esp 154 9a NPC Spawner.esp 155 9b The_Everyghoul_Hancock_v2.esp 156 9c Edit_Hancock.esp 157 9d Sexy_Everyghoul_Hancock_v2.esp 158 9e xA_Vault88Extras.esp 159 9f settlementlimitslashed.esp 160 a0 Usable Pillory.esp 161 a1 Sun's Poses.esp 162 a2 homemaker_workshop03_patch.esp 163 a3 0000 - SlaveCollar.esp 164 a4 SSEX.esp 165 a5 rxl_bp70_animations.esp 166 a6 FreedomFlatCWSSPatch.esp 167 a7 dcc-bp-lol-navi.esp 254 FE 13 wireless workshop items.esp 254 FE 14 Vault-Tec Armor.esp 168 a8 FP_Kidnapped.esp 169 a9 AA HotC - Standalone - SE.esp 254 FE 15 InoueLiquidFX_AAF-FIX.esp 170 aa FP_Stats.esp CumNWealth.esp CumNWealth_mutant.esp KziitdAnimationPoses.esp LooksMenu.esp 254 FE 16 Scrap Everything - Core.esp 254 FE 17 Scrap Everything - Automatron.esp 254 FE 18 Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp 254 FE 19 Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp 254 FE 1a Scrap Everything - Vault-Tec Workshop.esp
steelpanther24 Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 First, fourplay is not compatible with AAF. While I haven't heard of your issue showing up due to FP and AAF not playing nice, you have several mods that do not work together. I wonder if there is some sort of kidnapping attempt going on (you have two mods for that violate and FP kidnapping). In any event, check out the forum linked below as it guides you through a complete set up of AAF. When was the last time you did a complete rebuild of your mod list? As we get further away from the release date of FO4, there are increasingly "strict" modding lines that are emerging, practically making two (or more) incompatible games. Check out the following:
biinnoc9 Posted May 24, 2022 Author Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 8:45 AM, steelpanther24 said: First, fourplay is not compatible with AAF. While I haven't heard of your issue showing up due to FP and AAF not playing nice, you have several mods that do not work together. I wonder if there is some sort of kidnapping attempt going on (you have two mods for that violate and FP kidnapping). In any event, check out the forum linked below as it guides you through a complete set up of AAF. When was the last time you did a complete rebuild of your mod list? As we get further away from the release date of FO4, there are increasingly "strict" modding lines that are emerging, practically making two (or more) incompatible games. Check out the following: This has all been very helpful. Thank you and Contributor. So far, I don't have any problems with the mods. I'm using the mods on the list and I felt reluctant when I had to get rid of RSEII_Brothels when I heard that it would mess with saved games. So much for having a brothel in my Sanctuary Hills settlement. I hope brothels will get fixed or a better brothel mod is made. Once again, thanks for all the help
tuxagent7 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 4 hours ago, biinnoc9 said: RSEII_Brothels when I heard that it would mess with saved games https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58969
biinnoc9 Posted May 25, 2022 Author Posted May 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, tuxagent7 said: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58969 Thanks so much! Now I could build that brothel in Sanctuary Hills
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