cthulhu worship Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Hello. I have just been having this issue where any new mod i install, oblivion will not start. Once i turn the modd off via Oblivion mod manager, i am able to start oblivion again. Any suggestions on what I am doing wrong? My load order is this: Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm You Are Here.esm Better Cities Resources.esm A_Bloody_Mess.esm Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm CM Partners.esm x117race.esm Chanpon.esm Hair Style Master.esm SuccubusRace.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp Better Cities .esp Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp OBGE - Liquid Water.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp AmbientDungeons.esp bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp ChaseCameraMod.esp VanityCameraSmoother.esp Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp StandingJOJO.esp Get Wet.esp Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 1SB_SisterNightfallOutfit.esp AW_Wings.esp Ageha Tortured Soul HGEC.esp BWisteria.esp Chapel Shop.esp Dancers clothes.esp DarkAdventuressBow.esp DesuChan's Store.esp Dungeon Explorer.esp EY_AoD.esp Full Metal Bikini Mark II.esp Gothic Fetish Outfit.esp JediLightsabersCollectionV1.5.esp New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp SedaArmor.esp SwordDancer.esp VipCxjHHTest.esp Bodysuit and Garter.esp HGEC SB Clothing.esp Navel Piercings.esp R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp R18PN - Ayumi Set.esp R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp R18PN - Fiona Armor.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp R18PN - Mina Armor.esp R18PN - Mizugi set.esp R18PN - Schatten lauf Amr.esp Rockh00 Nouhime.esp Tactical Wears.esp Gloria Armor.esp DianoArmor2.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Heavy Legion Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Extra Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Armored Legion Horses.esp Blood Raven.esp Chorrol_Dungeon.esp Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp Scribe Supplies.esp Tona's_ModsStore.esp VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp Knights.esp Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulImperialIsle.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulSnowdale.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp HUD Status Bars.esp Defloration.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversSetScale.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversMB2.esp Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp Sexlivion.esp bondage_sex.esp Eroblivion.esp Nudeshy X.esp TmeppDoubleTap.esp Neverender.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp BasicInstinct.esp SpellSinger.esp SetBody.esp AutoSetBody.esp MidasSpells.esp Killtastic! Chance.esp CTAddPose_v_1.esp CTAddPose_osr1.esp CTAddPose_osr2.esp CTAddPose_osr3.esp CTAddPose_Le01.esp CTAddPose_Le02.esp CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp CTAddPose_Gaff_01.esp CTAddPose_Gaff_02.esp CTAddPose_glock3.esp CTAddPose_Pinups.esp CTAddPose_Pinups_2.esp CTAddPose_Halo.esp CTAddPose_Bkasou.esp CTAddPose_Pinups_3.esp Goma Pose 1.esp Goma Pose 2.esp Goma Pose 3.esp Goma Pose 4.esp Goma Pose 5.esp Goma Pose 6.esp Goma Pose 7.esp Goma Pose 8.esp Goma Pose 9.esp Goma Pose 10.esp Goma Pose 11.esp Goma Pose 12.esp Goma Pose 13.esp Goma Pose 14.esp Goma Pose 15.esp Goma Pose 16.esp LainPoseMODv1.4.esp actors_in_charge.esp 77_Umpa_Animation.esp EFGAddPose.esp NaRae Pose - 01.esp NaRae Pose - 01 Guide Book.esp NaRae Pose - 02.esp shinyEmotions.esp Pose Thumbnail Poses 1.1.esp Slof's Sexy Anims.esp Specialanims.esp CM Partners.esp DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp RGMsNavatar.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp x117race.esp x117Race ENG Race.esp Lop-ears Elf.esp DesuChan's Dolls.esp Chocolate Elves.esp Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp Ancient Elven Sorceress - EV.esp SuccubusRace.esp Synx.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Pym.esp CM Partner Isabell.esp PlomsOrcOverhaul v1.2.esp KT_CustomRaceFix.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp Better Imperial City.esp _No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp JQ-DuncanSword.esp Sexlivion-ForBP2ch.esp Shadow Mourne Colormania.esp NPCControl.esp LoversStripper.esp Navel Piercings Enchanted.esp Navel Piercings TAIL.esp Navel Piercings Enchanted TAIL.esp Ruinarmor.esp Rose Dual Sets.esp FFRace.esp VipCxj_Pose_Extend_System.esp flyDB.esp PatzyIntnlBikinitops.esp BountyHunter.esp HepsCloth01-Coveralls.esp Vagina.esp L'DragonSwordstaffSet.esp Vibrant Weather - No Daylight Torches.esp Vibrant Weather - Auto-CAL.esp Vibrant Weather.esp TamagoDischarge.esp L'Wigs.esp Assassin's Tweed.esp SeloblConversions.esp Diablorobe.esp VoidArmour.esp
Ark of Truth Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Yeah you have reached the mod limit of 255 active mods. You simply cannot add any more mods to your game as the game engine does not allow it. If you know how TES4Gecko works you will be able to merge some mods together such as all the R18PN armor mods into one plugin, all the Goma pose mods into one plugin and all the CTAddpose mods into one plugin. Unless you start merging mods which can be safely merged then you simply either have to get rid of plugins you are no longer using or merge existing ones to make space.
kingkong Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 same advice as Ark of Truth it is a must in your case to use tes4edit or tes4gecko with those tools you will be able to do groupe some of the mods that contain no script easily those with script it is another story. like all the mbp files to the esm directly and make one chest for all armor and cloth and piercing if their is no script (do not forget to make a save in case )
gregathit Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 You also need to take a hard look at what you have and use\need and what you can do without. Here, you need to delete these four ASAP as they are not compatible with lovers with pk: Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp Sexlivion.esp Eroblivion.esp Sexlivion-ForBP2ch.esp Check the readme.txt as these might be a use one or the other: Navel Piercings TAIL.esp Navel Piercings Enchanted TAIL.esp I also recommend dumping all your pose mods. Hells bells that is a shit load of esp files right there.
RitualClarity Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 You also need to take a hard look at what you have and use\need and what you can do without. Here, you need to delete these four ASAP as they are not compatible with lovers with pk: Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp Sexlivion.esp Eroblivion.esp Sexlivion-ForBP2ch.esp Check the readme.txt as these might be a use one or the other: Navel Piercings TAIL.esp Navel Piercings Enchanted TAIL.esp I also recommend dumping all your pose mods. Hells bells that is a shit load of esp files right there. Also shouldn't the OP be merging the Beautiful People as well? I don't know if a good link/instructions for how to merge them. On a separate note.. DAM you have a lot of mods.
Poontank Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 Careful with merging the pose mods, the Goma mods in particular! I've read in their comments section that Goma himself advised against merging his pose mods. It's very probable those mods are having similarly-named entries/IDs in their esps. A merged esp would only lead to a muddled non-functional mess. I'm also not sure about merging the MBP esps, as tempting it may be. It might work, but merging would certainly put an end to them being modular. Your best bet is merging a lot of the equipment esps. You will be able to cut down on at least twenty plugins. As for the R18PN mods, you could simply install EvenstarGW's shop mod which is a large compilation of many R18PN/Derida/Kurese outfits. Link to 'TES4Gecko': http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/8665//? David Brasher's tutorial on how to use it for merging esps: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/38655//?
RitualClarity Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Careful with merging the pose mods, the Goma mods in particular! I've read in their comments section that Goma himself advised against merging his pose mods. It's very probable those mods are having similarly-named entries/IDs in their esps. A merged esp would only lead to a muddled non-functional mess. I'm also not sure about merging the MBP esps, as tempting it may be. It might work, but merging would certainly put an end to them being modular. Your best bet is merging a lot of the equipment esps. You will be able to cut down on at least twenty plugins. As for the R18PN mods, you could simply install EvenstarGW's shop mod which is a large compilation of many R18PN/Derida/Kurese outfits. Link to 'TES4Gecko': http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/8665//? David Brasher's tutorial on how to use it for merging esps: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/38655//? Unless this is out of date then it should if lovers are being used. In the spoiler is a load order sample where instructions state to merge the red into a bashed patch and disable. I will admit I am not as experienced as many of the responders to this thread and I will defer to their judgment. If it is out of date or wrong then that can explain why I had troubles with getting my Oblivion to work properly..
gregathit Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Unless this is out of date then it should if lovers are being used. In the spoiler is a load order sample where instructions state to merge the red into a bashed patch and disable. I will admit I am not as experienced as many of the responders to this thread and I will defer to their judgment. If it is out of date or wrong then that can explain why I had troubles with getting my Oblivion to work properly.. You guys are misunderstanding one another. When Poontank is talking about merging he is referring to using the Tes4edit tool and combining them into one esp, that would most probably be a very bad thing. I don't recommend it. The sample load order is talking about merging via a bashed patch which is a temporary combo and that is most certainly a good thing. I HIGHLY recommend doing this. While this will help you pick up 10 or so esp slots for your hard limit (255) it won't help you on the soft limit which is up to your computer specs and having no more than 400 esp\esm\bsa files in your Oblivion\data\ folder.
RitualClarity Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Ah.. now I see. I hope that you can understand the confusion for someone else not so familiar with the various tools and techniques when many of the same terms are used yet have different meanings depending on the tool or program you use. I definitely will have to put that in the old brain pan for further study. If I start to run Oblivion I will have to start to learn yet another tool....
Poontank Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Yes, what Greg said. Whenever I use the term "to merge", I'm exclusively referring to the process of creating a new esp from several plugins. There's the sort-of slang term "to bash" for 'merging plugins into a Bashed Patch'. They need to be marked as mergeable (displayed in green by Wrye Bash's UI). This is indeed recommended for most of MBP's myriad of esps.
RitualClarity Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Yes, what Greg said. Whenever I use the term "to merge", I'm exclusively referring to the process of creating a new esp from several plugins. There's the sort-of slang term "to bash" for 'merging plugins into a Bashed Patch'. They need to be marked as mergeable (displayed in green by Wrye Bash's UI). This is indeed recommended for most of MBP's myriad of esps. Thanks, so now it would be safe to assume that if somone in the Oblivion modding community is referring to a Bashed Patch or "to bash" that is pretty much only used for Wyre and "to merge" most likely means to combine into one esp using the tes4edit or tes4gecko programs. If not sure one should post a comment to clearify the difference. ... except with you .. Unllike what I did...
kickthecommie Posted July 14, 2013 Posted July 14, 2013 Cthulhu can also merge the unique landscapes collection of mods apart from Eastern Peaks, Ancient Yews and Arrius Creek through TESGecko automated process. Although I can't give guarantees about long term stability, none of the various locations CTD when I briefly visited each of them.
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