Skyrim SE Missing Mouth

[thefabulousfink]

I need help tracking down a glitch that keeps coming up on my Skyrim SE(AE) build.  My character's teeth model completely disappears in game.  The teeth show up fine in racemenu, but when I open my mouth in game there is just a gaping hole between the lips.  That's not usually a problem for Loverslab  but seeing the inside of my characters head is breaking my immersion. I've done a search of this site and Nexus, but haven't found any clue as to what is causing it.

 

I'm running a ton of mods so I'm looking for help narrowing down what type of mod might cause this error.  Since the teeth show in racemenu but not in the game I am guessing that it is some kind of skeleton or animation problem.  I have a number of mods that add facial animations:

PC Headtracking

SLSO

Expressive Facegen Morphs 

Conditional Expressions

Sexlab 

SL Survival

(and possibly more from LL that I've forgotten have face anim).

 

I've also tried using different head/mouth models like CotR and HighPoly Head and gotten the same glitch.

 

Does anyone have an idea what might cause this glitch or what areas I should be looking at in SSEdit to find conflicts?

 

Thanks.

 

[boobkiwi]

So I have the same issue. Good news is I found where the mouth went. Bad news is that its stuck permanently floating at each maps origin.  

 

Here it is floating in the middle of lakeview manor:
 

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It even still animates ?

 

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After some testing I think it must be an issue with sl survival. Or maybe some incompatibility with the new mfg fix? That or expressive facegen morphs. It only happens with the player character, Im going to do some more investigating. I'll let you know if I find a solution.

 

[boobkiwi]

I believe the issue is expressive facegen morphs. I turned off the mod and entered into race menu with showracemenu and after I clicked done the teeth returned (ruining my preset tho ?). 

 

I also did this with expressive facegen still installed. Teeth returned but then after saving and reloading a massive black square appears over my character. 

 

My guess is expressive facegen morphs has somehow broken with the newest version of racemenu. 

[Hardie1247]

I also get this issue and I don't use Expressive Facegen Morphs, so I don't think it's that.

[boobkiwi]

Might be just be an issue with the AE Racemenu. Ive updated to the build on patreon tho still having issues. After all the mods initialize I just opened up showracemenu and then clicked done and the mouth returned to the face and seems to be staying in there. Thats going to have to be good enough for me for now. I'd suggest updating to that version of racemenu anyway, apparently fixes a memory leak issue. 

 

https://www.patreon.com/posts/racemenu-0-4-19-66659308?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=postshare 

[Fotogen]

I had this problem once.

 

Skeleton.  Must be XPMSE, latest version. And very important, nothing can override this skeleton. Plus re-run FNIS after you fixed skeleton problem.

 

In general:

- if "its missing" body part -> no mesh or bad mesh

- if "its placed in a weird spot or floating or not animating or moving" -> skeleton

 

[Guest]

I had this problem too. It was Devious Devices. Although it still happened after I uninstalled it. So I downloaded this teeth mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21348?tab=description and my teeth and mouth now properly appear.

Not sure why DD was causing this for me, it was giving me problems with equipping certain parts of armor too but that was fixable in the mcm.

I was using DD 5.1.7 with Skyrim SE(AE) 1.6.353.0

[The Ashen]

On 6/1/2022 at 3:43 PM, noxTM said:

It's something that happens to me too, what I did is go to the race menu and in the head category there is a mouth part option, just move it to the right so that it puts the number 1 with that you already selected the mouth

This is what always fixes it for me, but my character autoreverts to mouth part 0 causing the issue to reappear

 

[Skyrob57]

On 5/31/2022 at 8:21 PM, boobkiwi said:

After all the mods initialize I just opened up showracemenu and then clicked done and the mouth returned to the face and seems to be staying in there.

This drove me nuts googling forever for a fix without doing another rebuild .... I could see thru her head with her mouth open (found mouth parts just floating in space like 'boobkiwi's pic ... shudder!)  I used the above without touching anything and Tah F'ing Dah!!!  Brilliant, thanks compadre!

[LordDrakath15226]

Also having this problem but only when a CotR vampire: 

[tantuu]

On 5/26/2022 at 8:24 PM, boobkiwi said:

So I have the same issue. Good news is I found where the mouth went. Bad news is that its stuck permanently floating at each maps origin.  

 

Here it is floating in the middle of lakeview manor:
 

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It even still animates ?

 

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After some testing I think it must be an issue with sl survival. Or maybe some incompatibility with the new mfg fix? That or expressive facegen morphs. It only happens with the player character, Im going to do some more investigating. I'll let you know if I find a solution.

 

I was wondering what that was in my game. 

[idkdonotask]

If nothing works check the 'mouth opening' option,  should be less then 50% in SexLab Expressions Edit tab. I didn't have a mouth out of body issue, but i had character's mouth complitly disappeared 

[apEna]

This seems to be problem with "FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP".

Ateast some cases of it, but for somereason I just never ended up to that page when googling the issue, even tho its listed there.

I noticed my mouth escaping to zero coordinates everytime I changed hairstyle with "Let your hair down" mod (ie. something went wrong everytime headpart got modified).

Changed FSMP to different version and atleast for me the problem was fixed for now.

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[KitKatKseniya]

23 hours ago, apEna said:

This seems to be problem with "FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP".

Ateast some cases of it, but for somereason I just never ended up to that page when googling the issue, even tho its listed there.

I noticed my mouth escaping to zero coordinates everytime I changed hairstyle with "Let your hair down" mod (ie. something went wrong everytime headpart got modified).

Changed FSMP to different version and atleast for me the problem was fixed for now.

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Thanks for the troubleshooting, fixed it for me too ?

[Muncible]

What do I do if I can't move my head part slider? The only option is part "0" and I can't move it to check