The Hypocrisy of Modern Society

[Adam Jensen]

I think this picture sums of most of the problems with our society's view of morality in videogames. What do you think? 

 

 

ps: This is meant as a joke or at the very least an attempt to have a civil discussion about society. No need to flame if you don't agree.

[Veta]

People are close minded they try to support their opinion to the end . As for the pixelated bobbies they shouldn't be in a game not because society thinks they shouldn't but because there is no reason for them to be in a game in the first place .

[Adam Jensen]

People are close minded they try to support their opinion to the end . As for the pixelated bobbies they shouldn't be in a game not because society thinks they shouldn't but because there is no reason for them to be in a game in the first place .

 

Exactly! It just amazes me how people think that having massive gore in a game is not troublesome but if you add sexual themes to it, people go crazy. A funny example of this, back when I was a kid, like 10 years old, I was going to buy Conker's Bad Fur Day with my dad and the clerk told him to get me Resident Evil 2 instead of Conker because the latter had sex jokes and bad words. Do you follow the logic in this? They preferred that I play a game that use to scare the shit out of me instead of a game that had bad words. Can't complain though, RE2 is my favorite of the bunch.

[kingkong]

Do not blame the society  as it has no brain no personality and no consistance   this is just a reflection of each one of us.

 

We have all of us a probleme of education (we want girls that acts freely and whorly but we can not stand to see our mother or children acting like that) .

 

Blood and death is an exemple of power (to kill means often to be stronger to be the best ) .

[Veta]

No one wants women to act or dress like whores whether they are related to them or not .

[TheoryoftheDead]

It's just a matter of time if you ask me. If you were around when the first "violent" videogames came out, you'll remember that even display of pixelated blood were enough to make people go batshit.

[kingkong]

oups i hought i was in LoversLab adult community with sexy clothes mods and sex animation mods ! 

[woodenstick]

 

People are close minded they try to support their opinion to the end . As for the pixelated bobbies they shouldn't be in a game not because society thinks they shouldn't but because there is no reason for them to be in a game in the first place .

 

Exactly! It just amazes me how people think that having massive gore in a game is not troublesome but if you add sexual themes to it, people go crazy. A funny example of this, back when I was a kid, like 10 years old, I was going to buy Conker's Bad Fur Day with my dad and the clerk told him to get me Resident Evil 2 instead of Conker because the latter had sex jokes and bad words. Do you follow the logic in this? They preferred that I play a game that use to scare the shit out of me instead of a game that had bad words. Can't complain though, RE2 is my favorite of the bunch.

 

Two great games but conkers > RE2 imo, that game was absolutely hilarious and raptor mode was so much fun with a bunch of friends (shame they don't make games like that anymore)

 

Now back on topic, I remember a few years ago a certain "hot coffee" mod was released for San Andreas. Everyone was freaking out saying kids play this game, all the while I'm wondering wtf are these parents doing worrying about a virtual boob, you can basically murder a whole neighbourhood in cold blood in that game. Also, I was a minor back then and yes I loved my copy of San Andreas 

 

All these shows on MTV (is it even a music channel anymore?) basically revolving around teen sex/teen moms and almost idolizing them to a degree, but when a virtual boob slips everyone flips their shit... Morons these days

[Emily]

We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities.

Do you disagree?

 

But modding and game making is a different.

We create a popularity bomb and the audience are psychological victims of our fetish and reality.

One that orchestrate destruction is not a hypocrite.

 

Now days though only Smart Money and Good Financial that really matters in this life.

The rest are bonus and humanity Struggle & Suffering is a Delicacy.

Video games is a fine tool to lessen up the future competition.

 

Art immitates life.

Or

Life immitate art.

 

Either way sucks as mirror.

[drenari]

The main issue is society and its views on violence and sex. First world "western" culture is filled with people who go to school, get an education, get a job, raise a family to do the same. For the majority the only real in person violence they may see is a fist fight or a car crash. You can gauge just how little real violence people have seen based on how little they care about it being in video games. For most people in this type of culture sex is more of a threat because that ties in more with the family aspect of things. Its more likely that there partners will stray and have affairs or little Timmy will go get some girl pregnant instead of get beheaded going to the market to pick up some milk.

Ask someone who sees so much real violence in there everyday lives that they are numb to it if they even want to see that in a video game or a war vet who's been shot at and had friends die around them if they want to play call of duty. It all just ties back in to what people are really afraid of. If you worry about your family with things like affairs, stds, pregnancy's where a child is born that wont have good solid parents to raise them. Or if you might loose a family member because they might get killed going to get milk. In that light I am glad to live in a place where I can go get milk and the main worry in society on peoples minds is little Timmy seeing a boob. The alternatives can be much worse. 

[woodenstick]

The main issue is society and its views on violence and sex. First world "western" culture is filled with people who go to school, get an education, get a job, raise a family to do the same. For the majority the only real in person violence they may see is a fist fight or a car crash. You can gauge just how little real violence people have seen based on how little they care about it being in video games. For most people in this type of culture sex is more of a threat because that ties in more with the family aspect of things. Its more likely that there partners will stray and have affairs or little Timmy will go get some girl pregnant instead of get beheaded going to the market to pick up some milk.

Ask someone who sees so much real violence in there everyday lives that they are numb to it if they even want to see that in a video game or a war vet who's been shot at and had friends die around them if they want to play call of duty. It all just ties back in to what people are really afraid of. If you worry about your family with things like affairs, stds, pregnancy's where a child is born that wont have good solid parents to raise them. Or if you might loose a family member because they might get killed going to get milk. In that light I am glad to live in a place where I can go get milk and the main worry in society on peoples minds is little Timmy seeing a boob. The alternatives can be much worse. 

The irony is that a lot of the media has become sexualized these days. Just look at the music videos these days, my prof called it softcore pornography and I would have to agree.

 

Avoiding things isn't the best solution sometimes, just look at what the alcohol prohibition did.

 

Society's just trying to find scapegoats to blame instead of actually addressing the problem.

[AKM]

+1 drenari's post.  But, of course, it's a question of when.  When does a child, or even an adult, know right from wrong, regardless?... at which point no amount of simulated violence is going to sway them toward real violence.  Also, when do enough people stand up and say "Enough!  Enough already!" to the MTV style stuff?  Only once enough do will it be accepted that, like much of what we are involved with here, that will fall into the category of "If that's what you wish to do/see/etc, fine, but do/see/etc it on your own time, and don't throw it in my face."  Kind of a live and let live laissez faire approach.

 

I could go on and on about the zillion and one quotes about combat and death and etc, but I'll spare you that.  Suffice to say that unfortunately, those people who do learn the truth about real violence usually don't do so until it's much, much too late to do anything about it.  At that point they only really have two choices.  1.  Try to live long enough to go home in one piece.  2.  Accept the fact that they're already dead, it's just a matter of time... and take as many of "them" (whoever "they" may be) with as they can before and/or when they die.

 

I once heard a U.S. Air Force general (Gen. Chuck Horner, USAF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Horner) talk about  the "angry bees down on the ground that want to kill you" (close paraphrase).  My thoughts were these:  Either this guy is totally dillusional and we had better be really REALLY scared that such people end up being generals in our armed forces, or he knows full well that he's killing humans and he's dumbing down for the audiance.  I'd guess at the second, but I'm not entirely sure as I don't know the guy personally.