Lyman the Lunatic Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, Idyll said: We did girly things? Girly things can be fun, though. I mean, if you want to keep it private, sure. But doesn't making a public thread kind of goes against the privacy? I don't know how schools work in other countries, but I have women friends going up, I have no problem with girly things. Like, I thought sexual discrimination is illegal pretty much everywhere.
Lyman the Lunatic Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, Resdayn said: Bunch of people came in and argued about american politics I think? Which not really had a lot connection to this topic. Worth noting, not all of us are americans I know right? I find it weird that in the English speaking side of the internet, American ideology seems to rule over everything all the time. 1
Guest Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, Lyman the Lunatic said: I know right? I find it weird that in the English speaking side of the internet, American ideology seems to rule over everything all the time. I guess, its assumed everyone is due the main language, lot of us have English as 2nd or 3rd language(in my case its third). I don't think politics has too much tie with this thread. Its really just to show the girls in the community, they are not alone in the perversion ? Also its way to make friends! ? After all, the community of LL is all over in the world.
worik Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, Resdayn said: (in my case its third) +1 ?
RohZima Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 Not really any point judging anyone here because we are all satisfying our own fetishes, so it is naturally a very open community. As for women; honestly I get quite a bit of excitement from knowing girls could be using my animations to masturbate or having the same fantasy as me. I imagine I could bump into them IRL and re-enact it with them. ? 3
RohZima Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, zelphador23 said: Annnnnd nudes Yes. 1
Idyll Posted March 13, 2022 Posted March 13, 2022 On 2/22/2022 at 5:13 AM, Lyman the Lunatic said: Girly things can be fun, though. I mean, if you want to keep it private, sure. But doesn't making a public thread kind of goes against the privacy? I don't know how schools work in other countries, but I have women friends going up, I have no problem with girly things. Like, I thought sexual discrimination is illegal pretty much everywhere. Yeah, making something public by taking it out of its state of privacy is basically the point of making something public. Now, if you were rather asking about why one would make something private public, well, the reasons depend on who does it. Can't say truly if there was any "real" girl chatter as I wasn't around when the thread was most active but my guess on why make threads to publicly talk about something most would keep private is a reason not too far from exhibitionism. There's a certain enjoyment to be had from public displays regardless of form as, for example, I'm too bashful to show pics of myself doing things online even though I love to perform exhibitionism and instead write it in some detail which can be just as enjoyable as showing off if I can give the writ the right feel. The same applies for public displays of "private" matters like a thread to speak between girls and stuff, usually there's some form of enjoyment - not necessarily sexual - felt by the participating parties. As for sexual discrimination, well, I don't think something is sexually discriminatory if it specifies something of a male/female "priority" unless it's clearly stated somewhere "No opposite gender" or some such. Like, a dildo with shafts for anal+vaginal+urethral wouldn't be sexually discriminatory just because the target audience is obviously female, some guys could even get imaginative anyways. I doubt something to be sexually discriminatory simply due to a "girl/guy" specification being written or said somewhere, otherwise life'd probably turn into a never-ending spiralling down "how offensive words are, because of various reasons" and at some point people wouldn't dare speak nor write anymore by fear of offense from merely building sentences. 3
beefers Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 11:50 AM, Lisa Tepes said: We're all just as filthy as the boys after all. You're really not. Most guys are such savages that it makes me embarrassed to be a man at times. Plus, I don't like filthy.
Idyll Posted April 1, 2022 Posted April 1, 2022 5 hours ago, beefers said: You're really not. Most guys are such savages that it makes me embarrassed to be a man at times. Plus, I don't like filthy. Savage in what way? I mean, the word can be put to many possible uses, like, are they savage in bed railing a girl like a beast; are they so kinky it's better to describe them as depraved; do you mean they're without filter and at times outright offensive about sex; do you mean they don't take care of themselves on some level like hygiene or otherwise; or something else?
Idyll Posted April 1, 2022 Posted April 1, 2022 4 hours ago, tamai said: its nice to know im not alone in being the only girl here because at times it feels like i shouldnt be here or enjoy these types of mods (only due to my own thinking), however ive always felt more like a guy anyway so I can be just as perverted and can enjoy anything guys like mostly, plus the community has been nothing but amazing. Coming to loverslab was like a transition from downloading mods on nexus to slowly learning how to make my own breezehome mod, to getting into romance mods and then actually getting into more and more depraved stuff lol. but being here has opened me up to more kinky stuff when before ill say i was very vanilla and ive got to know several people here and feel all in all less judgmental than i was before of people and their sexual fantasies/preferences etc. Haha, a fellow tomboy? Being female myself and having had much lesbian sex - sometimes very explorative sex - I can say safely that there's nothing such as a notice saying we can't be as perverse or lustful as a stud anywhere on a girl's body, so be erotic! Be a pervert! The only limits are our naughty minds and degenerate creativity! 2
Idyll Posted April 1, 2022 Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, tamai said: I would say I can be labeled as a tomboy, its a little bit of gender dysphoria where i feel i should have been born a boy?.... but something went wrong lol, I hate to normally say that out loud since it feels like im looking for attention (again in my own mind) but its really how ive always felt. I am in a weird crossroad where yes I am bisexual however i dont think I could even go over to the other side and be with a woman so ill stick with men until maybe i decide to push boundaries. But again if i was a man i would easily be with a girl if that makes any possible sense im not even sure i understand my feelings. Here's to degeneracy and being naughty ? Yes. I too believe in some degree of gender roles, like, physically, males seem to fit better with females and vice-versa although it doesn't keep either gender from being with the same sex - just that it seems to fit better. I'm not really that versed nor invested in bothering about all the LGBTQ+ stuff myself, but I do believe being a "Man" doesn't necessarily correlate with having a dick, it's just a question of role attribution in a relationship, like a concept of top and bottom - it's a bit like a Dominant and submissive dynamic, it can come in various degrees but there's usually one side more something than the other. Your gender shouldn't limit your relationship dynamic to the point of constraining you to act more "girl" than "boy" if what you'd rather be is the latter and are not entirely happy with the former. Also, anyone who criticizes you for such a belief about yourself shows a critical lack of thinking, tact, and open-mindedness. (Of course, there are limits but it's not like you identify as an attack chopper or some other ludicrous thing.) At some point, with the right girl and enough time, I'm sure you'll be able to exploit this deeply buried masculinity and be a fine "man" for her, even if you lack a real flesh and blood cock you can compensate that with a strap-on at least. Also, if you seek happiness with another they should at the very least fit the gender you see yourself with better, deep down, so that you pour your heart fully into the relationship, even the nook and cranies that you may not have control over for they are buried deep in your heart. That way you limit the chances of any background thoughts sowing doubts thus diminishing your investment into your love story over time, and you get to be the stud you wish you were to boot, who said you couldn't be a man if you weren't male? One of the word "man"'s definition is that of a role in a relationship, it's just generally accepted that this is tied to male for the sake of convenience in speech. At least a strap-on is unlikely to have erectile dysfunction and can even vibrate with the right model! ? 1
Idyll Posted April 2, 2022 Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, tamai said: aww thanks such a sweet response!~ Smart moves, but know that I once was less headstrong about my own life and discarded my fears when they burdened me, fears like me shamelessly admitting to being a slut or performing exhibitionism without hiding my identity - in RL at that. The moment, whatever and whenever it is, will come that you too may find yourself able to be free from yours - the tricky part is to see that moment and exploit it in time. Everyone progresses at their own pace, after all. It's better to ease into such dealings than rush through and come more hurt than happy and reinforce these reserves you have. Opportunities to find happiness won't wait, sure, but they're not going to disappear entirely either. ? Edited April 2, 2022 by Idyll 1
an angel of blood Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 2:38 PM, tamai said: to sum it up basically im just afraid to come out and tell anyone, its just been a deep seeded secret ive held onto for so long I am afraid to confront that part of myself. however though roleplaying in skyrim can be fun as well and somewhat therapeutic in a way lol that is literally how i felt about my gender/sexuality/figuring all of that out. skyrim was very much a safe playground for me to explore both in private and help me figure out both how i felt and what i wanted. it helped me a lot honestly and i'm weirdly grateful for it lmao. plus i also veryyy much enjoyed getting to explore kinks that just aren't feasible/safe irl. skyrim isn't like, a great game, but the amount of things you can do with it gave me some helpful tools to figure myself out and it'll always hold a special place in my heart for that 1
beefers Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 On 3/31/2022 at 7:18 PM, Idyll said: Savage in what way? I mean, the word can be put to many possible uses, like, are they savage in bed railing a girl like a beast; are they so kinky it's better to describe them as depraved; do you mean they're without filter and at times outright offensive about sex; do you mean they don't take care of themselves on some level like hygiene or otherwise; or something else? I mean savage in the sense that they would rape you, kill you and rape your corpse if they could get away with it. Think about the things they DO get away with and then consider what they can't/won't do because of the law but would do if the opportunity was present. 1
Idyll Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, beefers said: I mean savage in the sense that they would rape you, kill you and rape your corpse if they could get away with it. Think about the things they DO get away with and then consider what they can't/won't do because of the law but would do if the opportunity was present. To be fair, there's a bunch of things anyone would do if the law wasn't as constrictive nor were there other hazards or if the opportunity presented itself - it just varies per individual what it is that they'd do in given situations, there's always something. I'd fuck a dog and get a knot if I wasn't as afraid as I am of any risk of ensuing illnesses or parasites and if the law was more allowing - one never knows when the veil of secrecy is lifted so I don't do it to avoid either risks. I do believe most humans are "wolves" to some extent but that varies per individual and there are "wolves" amongst females too, not just males. I've been raped by my current girlfriend before getting with her and it was anything but a willful fuck, she's a pretty good example of that. Don't feel ashamed to be a man simply because you noticed your fellow men have varying degrees of intelligence, lust and control, those are parameters shared in varieties across the entire human race. Besides, why would someone with even half a brain kill their victim? I know not every bulb is bright and some may do it anyway but it should be obvious enough that it usually warrants heavier penalties in most places that's someplace, not to mention the post-mortem sex that would add to the year count if not death penalty. 2
beefers Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Idyll said: To be fair, there's a bunch of things anyone would do if the law wasn't as constrictive nor were there other hazards or if the opportunity presented itself - it just varies per individual what it is that they'd do in given situations, there's always something. I'd fuck a dog and get a knot if I wasn't as afraid as I am of any risk of ensuing illnesses or parasites and if the law was more allowing - one never knows when the veil of secrecy is lifted so I don't do it to avoid either risks. I do believe most humans are "wolves" to some extent but that varies per individual and there are "wolves" amongst females too, not just males. I've been raped by my current girlfriend before getting with her and it was anything but a willful fuck, she's a pretty good example of that. Don't feel ashamed to be a man simply because you noticed your fellow men have varying degrees of intelligence, lust and control, those are parameters shared in varieties across the entire human race. Besides, why would someone with even half a brain kill their victim? I know not every bulb is bright and some may do it anyway but it should be obvious enough that it usually warrants heavier penalties in most places that's someplace, not to mention the post-mortem sex that would add to the year count if not death penalty. Then perhaps I need to change "embarrassed to be a man" to "embarrassed to be a human" because you seem to want to do some disgusting things that make me feel sick to my stomach even thinking about.
Idyll Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, beefers said: Then perhaps I need to change "embarrassed to be a man" to "embarrassed to be a human" because you seem to want to do some disgusting things that make me feel sick to my stomach even thinking about. See what I mean? Besides, if you stay so sensitive about the varying desires, secrets and generally private stuff people keep to themselves, then you wouldn't just be ashamed of being human and instead want relief from living if you knew every secret of every single living human and possibly any sentient rational being. And it's not just me, a single girl, that has such "disgusting things that make you feel sick to your stomach" in store. I'm pretty open about my perversion but most guys or girls hide stuff, maybe not every case being as "nasty" as mine in your eyes but things that may be unusual or outright outlandish to others. Just know that it's unhealthy to beat yourself over others' differences from you, you'll hurt yourself doing so. Edited April 6, 2022 by Idyll 3
remodel Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 6:50 PM, beefers said: I mean savage in the sense that they would rape you, kill you and rape your corpse if they could get away with it. Think about the things they DO get away with and then consider what they can't/won't do because of the law but would do if the opportunity was present. That's quite a broad brush you use. Looking at the 2019 FBI stats for all crime in US only three percent of men committed a crime, that means 97 percent are just going about their business. Reference: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-42 Another interesting study says "The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions" . This includes women (90 percent were men and 10 percent were women). Most of them got their start while a youth. Reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/ As a man I've got my kinks and I respect that other people have theirs. Doesn't mean I'll hurt someone. 2
Idyll Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 56 minutes ago, remodel said: As a man I've got my kinks and I respect that other people have theirs. Doesn't mean I'll hurt someone. Exactly, having tastes of one's own doesn't define one to be good or bad, it's just another aspect amongst myriad other things that make an individual.
Captain Cobra Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 6:50 PM, beefers said: I mean savage in the sense that they would rape you, kill you and rape your corpse if they could get away with it. Think about the things they DO get away with and then consider what they can't/won't do because of the law but would do if the opportunity was present. Speak for yourself. 1
an angel of blood Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 21 hours ago, Captain Cobra said: Speak for yourself. were they... talking about you? did you think they were for some reason 1
beefers Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 1:55 PM, remodel said: That's quite a broad brush you use. Looking at the 2019 FBI stats for all crime in US only three percent of men committed a crime, that means 97 percent are just going about their business. Reference: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-42 Another interesting study says "The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions" . This includes women (90 percent were men and 10 percent were women). Most of them got their start while a youth. Reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/ As a man I've got my kinks and I respect that other people have theirs. Doesn't mean I'll hurt someone. you're talking about people living in a society where those crimes will land you in prison. I'm guessing those numbers would be reversed if there were no consequences, WHICH WAS MY POINT THE WHOLE TIME but nobody seemed to read that part.
beefers Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/5/2022 at 7:30 PM, Idyll said: See what I mean? Besides, if you stay so sensitive about the varying desires, secrets and generally private stuff people keep to themselves, then you wouldn't just be ashamed of being human and instead want relief from living if you knew every secret of every single living human and possibly any sentient rational being. And it's not just me, a single girl, that has such "disgusting things that make you feel sick to your stomach" in store. I'm pretty open about my perversion but most guys or girls hide stuff, maybe not every case being as "nasty" as mine in your eyes but things that may be unusual or outright outlandish to others. Just know that it's unhealthy to beat yourself over others' differences from you, you'll hurt yourself doing so. that's entirely your opinion based on no facts. And where exactly did I say that I beat myself up over others' differences? I didn't. That's you projecting your opinion (not based on facts) onto me. I can't help what I'm repulsed by any more than you can help what you're turned on by but that doesn't mean either of us has to like it. I tolerate all kinds of shit in my normal life, that's part of being a person living in a society.
Idyll Posted April 9, 2022 Posted April 9, 2022 4 hours ago, beefers said: that's entirely your opinion based on no facts. And where exactly did I say that I beat myself up over others' differences? I didn't. That's you projecting your opinion (not based on facts) onto me. I can't help what I'm repulsed by any more than you can help what you're turned on by but that doesn't mean either of us has to like it. I tolerate all kinds of shit in my normal life, that's part of being a person living in a society. Sure, sure. Objectively speaking, life experiences don't always translate to evidence and I get that... But say, why are you putting up defences when there was no hostility nor ill intent in my remark? Because that's all it was: An inoffensive remark with no contempt for you, sincerely, take it or leave it I don't care. Just, please, don't attack me with passive-aggressive fodder and snarky lines - it's pointless as I don't really care much about debating stuff with a potentially ultimately toxic entourage, I will henceforth not respond to anything of yours that has any hint of hostility. Though, I'll say something this once to entertain you: Spoiler People don't need to say things for them to be known somehow, the fact that you so openly stated your disgust towards my comment on my bestiality desires by answering with a post speaking of your abhorrence expresses the difference between us whereas your shame of being human tells me you beat yourself over these differences, because you cannot simply stop being human either. Your posts on the matter are my evidence and I like to think my reasoning is logical, the fact that you reacted in such a defensive tone tells me you are invested in this conversation to the point of seeing my honestly unassuming words as some form of attack proves your sensitivity. This is me analysing you back, don't take it as an attack this time. Also, please don't go on a rampage... On LL... That is on the internet... With people you'll probably never meet... With arguments inconsequential to your life... Thus shouldn't rattle your cage... I'd hate for this second thread to be locked because of a useless squabble that earns nothing to anyone. 6
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