Crashing a lot and have no idea why

[SleepyM8]

Ok so I have a rather decent size mod list and ever since AE update ive been crashing randomly for seemingly no reason, I've been troubleshooting for two days now and I cant for the life of me find out why its crashing.

I can run the game at 60 fps no problem.

Only have around 3k animations for FNIS.

I have updated every mod I can to the new SKSE version and gotten 3rd party workarounds for the mods that are not updated yet.

Could use some help from someone with more knowledge then me with moding

 

Mod List:

248 total mods

 

Spoiler

*Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
*Unofficial Skyrim Creation Club Content Patch.esl
*Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
*Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
*SGEyebrows.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
*High Poly Head.esm
*SexLab.esm
*Devious Devices - Assets.esm
*SexLabAroused.esm
*Devious Devices - Integration.esm
*Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
*Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
*Fertility Mode.esm
*CreatureFramework.esm
*SexLab Attraction.esm
*OSA.esm
*Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
*ZaZAnimationPack.esm
*Vigilant.esm
*creation-USSEP.esp
*Vigilant Bodyslide.esl
*dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp
*Immersive Wenches.esp
*SLAnimLoader.esp
*SkyUI_SE.esp
*EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
*ELFX - Exteriors.esp
*Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
*Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
*MilkModNEW.esp
*MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
*Immersive Encounters.esp
*SeranaDialogAddon.esp
*SexLab-Stories.esp
*Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
*SexLab_Solutions.esp
*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
zThingsInDark.esp
*Vigilant Voiced.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp.ghost
*hydra_slavegirls.esp
*Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
*ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
*BD UUNP Collection.esp
*NoRadialBlur.esp
*TAZ_killcamtweak.esp
*NMNEB.esp
*SkyrimIsWindy.esp
*SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
*Runandwalkpaces.esp
*MiscCircletOpus.esp
*TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
*12FemaleBrows.esp
*Sakora's Make Over Kit for SKSE64.esp
*Skimped - Dwarven Mail Open Helmet.esp
*Skimped - Daedric Mail Open Helmet.esp
*Skimped - Iron Open Helmet.esp
*Skimped - Open Face Madness Helmet.esp
*Skimped - Ebony Plate Open Helmet.esp
*Skimped - Spell Knight Open Helmet.esp
*Skimped - Silver Open Helmet.esp
*3BBB.esp
*DeadlyCombat.esp
*RaceMenu.esp
*RaceMenuPlugin.esp
*AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
*MoreNastyCritters.esp
*SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
*Milk Addict.esp
*FurnitureMarkerSex.esp
*HornyCreatures.esp
*Enable 1st Person For W&V.esp
*Animal_SOS_Original_Mesh.esp
*Immersive Weapons.esp
*Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
*sanguinesDebauchery.esp
*Run For Your Lives.esp
*Cloaks.esp
*StormcloakWarmaidenArmor.esp
*HandgunsOfSkyrim.esp
*S_L_U_T_S.esp
*Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
*SimpleSlavery.esp
*Prison.esp
*TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
*Real Flying.esp
*cheery_AetherArtifactsCrafting-r2.esp
*WorldEaterBeater.esp
*mihailgargoyleexpansion.esp
*Deviously Enslaved.esp
*Bijin - UCMT.esp
*thedamned.esp
*Serana.esp
*SaintsSeducersBeautification.esp
*Sharkish_Piercings.esp
*NewStatueOfShalidorMagicLights.esp
*High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp
*LazyCBP.esp
*FNISSexyMove.esp
*MilkModNEW HF.esp
*SexualPersuasion.esp
*SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
*SLSO.esp
*Devious Devices For Him.esp
*Devious Devices SE patch.esp
*ZAO_active_overlays.esp
*Spank That Ass.esp
*SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
*SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
*TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp
*SLPleasure.esp
*DW.esp
*Animal_SOS.esp
*Bijin Warmaidens.esp
*Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
*SexLab Romance.esp
*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
*Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
*dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
*AMatterOfTime.esp
*UltimateCombat.esp
*SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp
*SexLabDefeat.esp
*SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
*SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
*CBBE.esp
*UIExtensions.esp
*Predator Vision.esp
*BVFE.esp
*BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
*RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
*DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
*SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
*LustmordVampireArmor.esp
*Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp
*DragonsFallDown.esp
*Vampire Lord Drain And Serana Changed V1.esp
*VampireLordsCanFly.esp
*Rings2Hands.esp
*aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp
*RaceMenuHH.esp
*Vivid WeathersSE.esp
*WetandCold.esp
*TaWoBA Skyforge Fixes.esp
*RoyalDaedric.esp
*icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
*Valerica.esp
*MikanEyes All in one SE.esp
*Brows.esp
*FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
*Lamenthia's Marks of Beauty.esp
*KS Hairdo's.esp
*High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand Alone.esp
*MXTSolivia.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
*Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp
*Bijin NPCs.esp
*Bijin Wives.esp
*Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
*FNIS.esp
*50 More Perk Points.esp
*DenassaG_MageRobes.esp
*XPMSE.esp
*RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
*McmRecorder.esp
*Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
*Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
*ELFXEnhancer.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo.esp
*VampLordBS.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp
*MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
*MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp

 

Load Order:

 

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl
ccbgssse003-zombies.esl
ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl
ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl
ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl
ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl
ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl
ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl
ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl
ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl
ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl
ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl
ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm
cceejsse001-hstead.esm
ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl
ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl
ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl
ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl
cceejsse002-tower.esl
ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl
ccvsvsse002-pets.esl
ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl
ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl
ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl
ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl
ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl
ccmtysse002-ve.esl
ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl
ccvsvsse001-winter.esl
cceejsse003-hollow.esl
ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl
ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl
ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl
ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl
ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl
ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl
ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl
ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl
ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl
ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl
ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl
ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl
ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl
ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl
ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl
ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl
ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl
ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl
ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl
ccbgssse066-staves.esl
ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm
ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl
ccbgssse069-contest.esl
ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl
ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl
ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl
ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl
ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl
ccedhsse003-redguard.esl
cceejsse004-hall.esl
cceejsse005-cave.esm
cckrtsse001_altar.esl
cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl
ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Creation Club Content Patch.esl
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SGEyebrows.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
High Poly Head.esm
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
Fertility Mode.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLab Attraction.esm
OSA.esm
Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Vigilant.esm
creation-USSEP.esp
Vigilant Bodyslide.esl
dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
MilkModNEW.esp
MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
SeranaDialogAddon.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
zThingsInDark.esp
Vigilant Voiced.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
BD UUNP Collection.esp
NoRadialBlur.esp
TAZ_killcamtweak.esp
NMNEB.esp
SkyrimIsWindy.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
Runandwalkpaces.esp
MiscCircletOpus.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
12FemaleBrows.esp
Sakora's Make Over Kit for SKSE64.esp
Skimped - Dwarven Mail Open Helmet.esp
Skimped - Daedric Mail Open Helmet.esp
Skimped - Iron Open Helmet.esp
Skimped - Open Face Madness Helmet.esp
Skimped - Ebony Plate Open Helmet.esp
Skimped - Spell Knight Open Helmet.esp
Skimped - Silver Open Helmet.esp
3BBB.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
Milk Addict.esp
FurnitureMarkerSex.esp
HornyCreatures.esp
Enable 1st Person For W&V.esp
Animal_SOS_Original_Mesh.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
StormcloakWarmaidenArmor.esp
HandgunsOfSkyrim.esp
S_L_U_T_S.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
Prison.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
Real Flying.esp
cheery_AetherArtifactsCrafting-r2.esp
WorldEaterBeater.esp
mihailgargoyleexpansion.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
Bijin - UCMT.esp
thedamned.esp
Serana.esp
SaintsSeducersBeautification.esp
Sharkish_Piercings.esp
NewStatueOfShalidorMagicLights.esp
High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp
LazyCBP.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
MilkModNEW HF.esp
SexualPersuasion.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
SLSO.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
ZAO_active_overlays.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp
SLPleasure.esp
DW.esp
Animal_SOS.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
CBBE.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Predator Vision.esp
BVFE.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp
DragonsFallDown.esp
Vampire Lord Drain And Serana Changed V1.esp
VampireLordsCanFly.esp
Rings2Hands.esp
aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
Vivid WeathersSE.esp
WetandCold.esp
TaWoBA Skyforge Fixes.esp
RoyalDaedric.esp
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
Valerica.esp
MikanEyes All in one SE.esp
Brows.esp
FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
Lamenthia's Marks of Beauty.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand Alone.esp
MXTSolivia.esp
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
FNIS.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
DenassaG_MageRobes.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
McmRecorder.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
VampLordBS.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp
MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp

 

[coolfreaky]

i would suggest you to slide all cc--mods ( esl , bsa , esm ) from skyrim / Data Folder  :  

- create a folder for each mod  . ( about 70 in totale )

- look at your Mod Manager structure and place those cc--mods inside your Mod Manager / Mods 

 

like this when you open your Mod Manager you can run Loot and sorte all the mods including cc-mods than and if it change something for better . ( i had them entirely removed ; as i do not use them at all . )

 

you can by the way clean those cc--mods with  xEdit / TessEdit . 

 

i can not suggest you any crash Log for the moment as there is none actually for AE

and also AE is bugged and still on update instance . to follow in this thread : SE Compatibility Tracking (Jan 16 #7017) - SE 1.6.353 ✔DD ✔SOS ❌AIM ❌.NETSF ❌TDM - Skyrim: Special Edition - LoversLab

 

you could provide a Papyrus Log but i doubt it would help to resolve any crash : How to enable Papyrus Logging at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

Edited January 17, 2022 by coolfreaky

[SleepyM8]

7 hours ago, coolfreaky said:

i would suggest you to slide all cc--mods ( esl , bsa , esm ) from skyrim / Data Folder  :  

- create a folder for each mod  . ( about 70 in totale )

- look at your Mod Manager structure and place those cc--mods inside your Mod Manager / Mods 

 

like this when you open your Mod Manager you can run Loot and sorte all the mods including cc-mods than and if it change something for better . ( i had them entirely removed ; as i do not use them at all . )

 

you can by the way clean those cc--mods with  xEdit / TessEdit . 

 

i can not suggest you any crash Log for the moment as there is none actually for AE

and also AE is bugged and still on update instance . to follow in this thread : SE Compatibility Tracking (Jan 16 #7017) - SE 1.6.353 ✔DD ✔SOS ❌AIM ❌.NETSF ❌TDM - Skyrim: Special Edition - LoversLab

 

you could provide a Papyrus Log but i doubt it would help to resolve any crash : How to enable Papyrus Logging at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

Thanks for the help!

(Btw I use vortex)

So I cleaned all the mods I had and downloaded a bunch of patches that LOOT recommended.

With these files should they be named like the cc file that's in it or does the file name not matter? 
and should I remove the cc files from the Skryim SE/data folder when i put them into vortex or keep them there?

[SleepyM8]

I have just found out that the game will always CTD when I open any container 

[ttts1]

2 hours ago, SleepyM8 said:

I have just found out that the game will always CTD when I open any container 

 

1) so is it only when you open a container?  or at other times as well?

 

2) If it is only when you open a container, is it every time you open one?  Or does it sometime work and sometimes crash your game?

 

If so, do you have anything that would modify game menus or GUI?  I didn't see anything obvious, but I don't know what some of the mods like "No Radial Blur" do.

[SleepyM8]

22 minutes ago, ttts1 said:

 

1) so is it only when you open a container?  or at other times as well?

 

2) If it is only when you open a container, is it every time you open one?  Or does it sometime work and sometimes crash your game?

 

If so, do you have anything that would modify game menus or GUI?  I didn't see anything obvious, but I don't know what some of the mods like "No Radial Blur" do.

So after some testing it CTD when I loot ANY container (I can loot bodies just fine however.)

The only GUI mod I have is Skyui which is a requirement for a bunch of mods im using

(I dont even use Skyui for anything so its all base Skyrim UI.)

The "No Radial Blur" mod gets rid of the blur effect when in a killcam animation.

 

[ttts1]

hmmm....I don't know, maybe someone else can give you better ideas. 

 

Any mods that affect looting may be triggering it.  I thought maybe something "in" the containers may be doing it due to bad/missing files from the item preview you see when looting, but if that were the case then looting bodies would trigger it.  And it wouldn't happen to every container. 

 

Maybe something adding items to the leveled items list for distribution in containers is causing a problem, but I've never heard of that and I would think it would affect looted bodies as well.  I don't know, just thinking out loud.

[SleepyM8]

1 minute ago, ttts1 said:

hmmm....I don't know, maybe someone else can give you better ideas. 

 

Any mods that affect looting may be triggering it.  I thought maybe something "in" the containers may be doing it due to bad/missing files from the item preview you see when looting, but if that were the case then looting bodies would trigger it.  And it wouldn't happen to every container. 

 

Maybe something adding items to the leveled items list for distribution in containers is causing a problem, but I've never heard of that and I would think it would affect looted bodies as well.  I don't know, just thinking out loud.

Yea I was thinking it might be a glitched item too. I’ll try some more tests tomorrow cause I have a couple item mods that might be doing it.

i did also find that it crashed on every load screen

It’s very weird cause this only started when I entered bleak falls barrow 

[SleepyM8]

PROBLEM FIXED! 

Thank you both for the help!

after cleaning up over 30 mods in xedit, getting patches that I didn't know I needed and fixing my dll loader all my problems are fixed 

[Grey Cloud]

3 hours ago, SleepyM8 said:

after cleaning up over 30 mods in xedit,

??? Why?