Caco Demon Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 I've been running into an unusual and elusive issue with my active plugins for Fallout 4. I'm using Vortex to manage my mods. Here is my full list of plugins: Spoiler Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp ArmorKeywords.esm XDI.esm WorkshopFramework.esm AutoAxe.esl CollegeSquareSettlement.esl SS2.esm SS2_XPAC_Chapter2.esm BetterCoastalWaves.esl Loads.esm ExplosiveTanksRestored.esl FunctionalTank.esl The Sanctuary Bridge.esl NewCalibers.esp Garage.esm Settlementobjectscombined.esl QuestBoard.esl BigHuntGoodneighbor.esl WulfRaiderAccessories.esl BerettaM9FS.esl BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl Burly Bunkers.esl COCO-BikiniCollection.esl COCO-LaceBody.esl CROSS_CoA.esl CW32Pistol.esl CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm Arbitration - Resources.esm CWRaiders.esl CoAFanaticsGirl.esl CompanionInventoryWeight.esl CWSS Redux.esp BridgesandStairs.esl NaiRaeCozyScavver.esl Better Containers.esl M84FlashBang.esl Damage Threshold.esm Gritty Subway Stations.esl GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl NoMoreAutomatronLoads.esl GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl Lucid's Texture Upgrades.esl DesertOperator.esl DressupA.esl FaceLight.esl EFM_RaiderArmor.esl EquipSettlers.esl Fireflies.esl GP-21.esl DamageThresholdFramework.esm GavMan_Zimonja_Layouts.esl HoloDisplay.esl JB - HmmWhatToWear.esm Homemaker.esm GavMan_Zimonja_Cityplan.esl GuardObjects.esl JP_GuardTowers.esl MWSentryTurret.esl Knockout Framework.esm TortureDevices.esm Retex_Skeletons.esl Rusty Face Fix.esl RRTV_Rusty_VaultFurniture.esl SREP.esl Robot Home Defence.esm NewWalls.esl More Bandanas.esl Military Vehicles Retextured.esl PowerArmorIntercomVoice_Louder.esl rpampas.esl KKYpampas.esl RadiationProtectorESL.esl INVB_OverlayFramework.esp PANPC.esm PACE.esm SS2WorkshopHUDOverride.esl RSE_II_Resources.esm OilCanWeapon.esl NPSShopping.esl Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esl Shino_Artist's Attire_Outfit.esl Snap'n Build.esm SettlementKeywords.esm EthreonMasterPlan.esm StandaloneWorkbenches.esl TacticalReload.esm StimpakCompanions.esl WashOutThatCum.esl Wallmageddon.esl WhichSettlerWhichBed.esl TrueStormsFO4.esm UniqueSettlementTraders - Proteced.esl raider_reform_school_tattoos.esl raider_reform_school_names.esl raider_reform_school_amputee.esl Devious Devices.esm SettlementFixerBot.esl AAF.esm AAFTurnTheLightON.esl AAFThemes.esl AAF_STATS.esm AlternateSettlements.esp Winchester-Pack.esp VIS-G Item Sorting.esp Armorsmith Extended.esp AllSetsExtended.esp jDS__HP_Skull_Mask.esp BAM-BetterArmoryMod.esp M870.esp Better Rubble.esp AnimatedIngestibles.esp AnimatedInjestibles_RobotFix.esp Eli_Accessories.esp FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp SimplePatch.esp Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp ASA.esp AnimChemRedux.esp Buildable Fallout 76 Watchtowers V2.esp CROSS_Cybernetics.esp CommonwealthSurvivalist.esp [ETH] ADS Sound Replacer - Packed.esp Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp ImmersiveCleaning.esp Fallout Loot Overhaul.esp mcgFemaleWalk.esp Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp PlayerComments.esp autoweapons.esp 3dscopes.esp Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp Another Pine Forest Mod.esp UltraExteriorLighting.esp Universal Working Bathroom Fixtures (CWSS and DLCs).esp ASEFarHarbor.esp WorkshopRearranged.esp hdreworkedprojectrevised.esp PH_HighwayProject.esp settlemods_collection_201.esp SanctuaryCleanedExceptTwoMainHouses.esp MetroReplacer.esp Starlight.esp VanillaExtensions.esp CUSTOM FO4 - ALL FIXES.esp RaiderOverhaul.esp Armor_Mods_Expanded_v1b2.esp ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp FLORA - The Fungal Forest.esp OutcastsAndRemnants.esp Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp DD_Tinas_Cookiepocolypse_merged.esp Depravity.esp FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp TrainBar.esp MoreAGOMBz.esp Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp ImmersiveGenericDialogues.esp MoreAGOMBz_CP_ASE_ASEFH.esp GhoulBlood.esp FQ_NoMoreLODFlicker.esp Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp RecruitableSettlers.esp W.A.T.Minutemen.esp TU3SD4Y'S Oberland Metro Station.esp DCGuard_Overhaul.esp Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp MikeMooresMCAM.esp MetroReplacer_OberlandStationMetro.esp NightstrikerCreatureMod.esp Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp Better Explosives Redux.esp More Power Armour Mods.esp More Power Armour Mods - Automatron.esp Minutemenoverhaul.esp CUSTOM FO4 - Arbitration Merged.esp AVBPipeGunsReplace.esp Snappy_HouseK.esp g2m_Workshop_Nexus.esp WET.esp Vivid Waters.esp UniqueUniques.esp functionalobjects_vanilla.esp M2_Flamethrower_2.2.esp Snappy_DLC03.esp Snappy_DLC_Scrap.esp RecruitableSettlersFH.esp Vendor.esp nimroutMilitaryMerge.esp MultiLegendMod.esp Mercenary.esp NoInvisibleGuardPostsAtTheCastle.esp MagnoCumGaudio.esp ExplosionKnockdown.esp EPO.esp EK - BER.esp EK - EPO.esp EEFF - vanilla.esp ProjectValkyrie.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6.esp F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp RussianAssaultPack.esp BVTSA-Replacer-DLC.esp CombinedArmsNV.esp WeaponPackIntegrationProject.esp Weapons of Fate.esp Modern Firearms.esp MF_NC_patch.esp SPTFIRE-ALLDLC.esp Modern Weapon Replacer - Service Rifle Deadpool2099 - Assault Rifles.esp AVBMGReplace.esp ChiappaTripleThreat.esp TD_DLC01Workshop_Addons.esp PowerAttackKnockDown.esp walkers.esp GrenadeExpansionPack.esp RSE_II_CSA.esp CUSTOM FO4 - LString Bow and Saya Quivers.esp RSE_II_AbductionsAddonPack.esp CWCreateABot.esp Settlements Defense Buildings Defense Value Reducer (All-In-One).esp 155mm Howitzer M1.esp Artillerylightfix.esp ASOAstinsSkinOverlays(Blk).esp ASOAstinsSkinOverlays(Brands).esp ASOAstinsSkinOverlays(HP).esp dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp Adequate_FirstStep.esp AdvSettleTurretSet-Real.esp AkirasClutter.esp AllinAccessory.esp AlternateSettlements SMM.esp MercenaryCBBEPatch.esp GroundedWR.esp TacticalTablet.esp ZellaHairDyeV2.esp ZellaHairDye.esp 4K Face + LMCC.esp Animated Drinking.esp FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced_DLC_Doctors_Addon.esp Commonwealth Captives.esp BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp CUSTOM FO4 - BarbWireBlonde Clothing Pack.esp Configurable Artillery.esp Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp TacticalReloadDLC.esp GS Lever Action Shotgun.esp AutomatronSDTank.esp AutomatronSDTankExpanded.esp AutomatronSDTankExpanded-WSE Patch.esp BackwardsHats.esp BackwardsHats AE Patch.esp FM_Badlands_Mashups.esp Schlong.esp BalconySupports.esp DeadlyTrapsHazards-FH.esp NoLoopingWeaponSounds_DLC_Nuka.esp NoLoopingWeaponSounds.esp PlayerComments_ImmersiveGenericDialogues_Patch.esp SOU All-in-one.esp Better Cooking Stations.esp Better Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.esp BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp ExpandedSettlementBuildings.esp RareItems.esp SortOfMoreValuableGoldValueByGlennCroft.esp RealHandcuffs.esp HHFootsteps.esp Devious Devices Addon - High Heels Sound.esp ZebrinasWorkshopDevices.esp BetterShackBridges.esp ohSIM_Sim2_Settlements_Scrappers_Addon.esp raider_reform_school.esp CombatStripLite.esp Better Vendor Stalls.esp BDO Hair.esp ParagonHairs.esp BoxHouses.esp BuildableBurningCampfires.esp Business Settlements.esp BusinessSettlements-SKPatch.esp BusySettlers.esp Busy Settlers SMM.esp Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons - Auto Raise from Cover.esp Army Objects By C & M4k4rov.esp SlowTime.esp NeoX_Balaclava.esp Better Power Armor - Extended.esp CC_Outfit_Injector.esp VtawWardrobe5.esp CCOI_VTAW5.esp VtawWardrobe6.esp CCOI_VTAW6.esp VtawWardrobe7.esp CCOI_VTAW7.esp ModdableRobotSettlers.esp CompRedo.esp CROSS_Gear.esp CROSS_ReducedLaserSmoke.esp CR_OuthouseCollection.esp Canopies.esp ChainBikini.esp DelyteC&E.esp CUSTOM FO4 - DonEb14n and Crane Clothes.esp Crackle.esp CREAtiveClutter.esp CROSS_GoreCrits.esp CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp CUSTOM FO4 - Arbitration - No AI.esp CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp Gunner_Operator.esp Homemade Explosives.esp Campsite.esp WorkshopPlus.esp GetDirty.esp CWSS and GetDirty Compatibility Patch.esp CBBE.esp SlaveTattoos.esp sparsemusic.esp Classic Fallout Music.esp Classic Fallout Music Far Harbor.esp Classic Fallout Music NukaWorld.esp Collection of tops v2.0.esp CraftableAnimationMarkers.esp Craftable Armor Size.esp Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture.esp Crimsomrider's Unique Furniture SMM.esp Elzee Cough.esp KSHairdos.esp FM_Commonwealth_Mashups.esp Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp win1897.esp AutoDoors.esp GreenGoo.esp Cerruti-M4k4rov US Vehicles Pack.esp FO4 NPCs Travel.esp M1911-WARSStandaloneWeapon.esp RRShutteredDoors.esp TerrainUndersides.esp _00Stingray.esp DD_AIO Test Mark 1.esp SS2_ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp WareHouseExt.esp BarnAdd.esp CUSTOM FO4 - Riot Gear Merged.esp spacefiddle_Effective-Melee-Blocking.esp P220.esp Modern Weapon Replacer - Sig Sauer P220 - 10mm Pistols.esp ThompsonSMGReplacer.esp Extended weapon mods.esp wd_huntingrifle.esp TacticalReloadVanilla.esp DP_CaravanShotgun.esp FCOM.esp DOOMPumpShotgun.esp Caravan Shotgun Bug Fixes.esp HZS NavMesh Fixer.esp JunkTownTwo.esp SKKWorkshopAccessMonitor.esp WoodenPrefabsExtended.esp CabinInTheWoods.esp BasementLiving.esp SettleObjExpandPack.esp SettleObjExpandPack-AutoDoorsPatch.esp BarnAdd_AutoDoorPatch.esp halffacemask.esp K9TacticalHarness.esp CustomCamera.esp Defy.esp DlxClothesPack.esp dD-Enhanced Blood.esp EBSO.esp PIERCINGS + JEWELRY MERGED.esp FO4Hotkeys.esp Gritty Subway Stations.esp JC-Bikini.esp MOAR Turrets.esp JB - HighschoolHeaven.esp OpsCoreFASTHelmet.esp Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp InstitWeapPosit.esp CuteLittleFangs.esp Custom Moans.esp cutoffs-calyps.esp FM_DTT_DamageThresholdForTurrets.esp DarkOperators.esp DeuxMille's Pool Parts.esp Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp dinomore.esp Dinomore SMM.esp StopRemoveItems.esp CarAddon4.esp MoreCars.esp grenadeflipoffsound.esp Dupe Sheer Crop.esp [W0LF]_EVA_RECON.esp FAR.esp rfortaleza2.esp rfortaleza2_AE.esp FO4HHS_AAF.esp FakeKillcam.esp Fallout3StyleVaults.esp TankTruck_Workshop_Object.esp Far Harbor Respawn.esp HN66-SiriusArmor.esp Fixed flickering puddles.esp dD - Small Splatter Size.esp Friffy_Fixed Curtains.esp Iron_FusionCoreCombiner.esp g2m_FishFarmBridges.esp g2m_FishFarmBridges SMM.esp GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp GKX Log Walls.esp Gamma Guns don't Stagger..esp Dogmeat_Stuff.esp FPEDogAddon.esp FPESuperMutantAddon.esp Scopes.esp GCM.esp rpampas.esp FutaFEV.esp Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp Glowing Eyes.esp Less DMG from Perks.esp GunslingerRiflemanSwap.esp HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp HN66Fo4_EarringsV1.esp HamedSimKhardar.esp HeavyAmbientOcclusion.esp HiPolyFaces.esp JB - HWTW - NPCImplement.esp HudsonH9.esp IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp PlayerComments_IcebreakerCDO-Settlements_MainVersion_Patch.esp ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp Nability - IAF Outcasts And Remnants Patch.esp IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp FM_Irradiated_Raiments.esp JaL.esp GrafsSecurityFences.esp Invisible Light.esp Elzee Jolly Item Sounds.esp Jumpsuit.esp LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp LanternBottles.esp Less Ugly Intercom.esp LewdMarks.esp LMBTOverlays.esp LooksMenu.esp Lots More Facial Hair.esp Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp M4k4rov - Ravaged Vehicles.esp MOAR Turrets - No Power Requirement.esp MW - Kreuger Gasmask.esp freefov.esp HaxRPG7.esp EK - RPG7.esp RemoteExplosives.esp EK - RemoteExplosives.esp PushAwayCompanions.esp Locksmith.esp AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp CUSTOM FO4 - Better Settlers Merged Plugins.esp AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp AA LMSE_FarHarbor.esp MCMWeatherControl.esp KURO.esp GrenadeLauncherStandalone.esp EK - M79.esp True-Frags_v1-2_LoDmg_NoKnockdown_MidRange_NukaDLC.esp EK - True Frags.esp GrenadeExpansionPackAWKCRPatch.esp GrenadeExpansionPackLoadsPatch.esp GrenadeExpansionPackValsPatch.esp Live Dismemberment - RegularNoHeadshots.esp SuperMutantFreezeFix.esp LooksMenu1stPersonViewItemsFix.esp Nexus_PMC.esp Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_PMC_Patch.esp Damage Threshold - Fools Fight Futilely.esp NewCalibers_extendedWeaponMods.esp FHLeveledListIntegration.esp GP5.esp Mossberg500.esp Mossberg500_OlTrusty.esp OMEGA - IAF BCS Patch.esp DecentElevators.esp LostWorld.esp WestTekTacticalOptics.esp Far West Minutemen.esp CumOverlays.esp Crossbow.esp Crossbow_MisterSandman_Patch.esp JustDebris.esp SG550.esp DTFOptionalPlugin.esp HeroicPie Props.esp WareHouseExtAutoDoorPatch.esp Vendor_AutoDoor.esp HamedSimKhardar Auto Doors Patch.esp MsAutomatronPartsCollection.esp NMC Bundle VERY HIGH.esp AKSounds.esp MetroReplacer_BetterThirdRail.esp More Realistic Cats.esp nixieclock.esp BrahminNomoreRecruitmentandMooing.esp OCDecorator - No Experience.esp OCDispenser.esp NoRecoilReset.esp ManufacturingExtended.esp Harrys_Calibers_Patch.esp OCDecorator.esp OCDecoratorDLC.esp More Fortifications.esp Modern Armors.esp MiscHairstyle.esp ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp MineMercenaryOutfit.esp KSHairdos_oel.esp MakeshiftBattery.esp Makeshiftshotgun.esp Non-Lethal Armory.esp Mossberg500_NewCalibers.esp Northland Diggers New.esp MetroReplacer_VaultTecDLC.esp NPCSTRAVELFIXES.esp RealThrowingWeapons.esp SKKCombatStalkers.esp SKKRESystemManager.esp SKKSettlementAttackSystem.esp SLR.esp SSC.esp SS2_XDI Patch.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_RenderTattoo.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_SlaveTats.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_Svbtats.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_krisser143.esp RutahTattooPack_FO4.esp Raw Input - Sprint Fix Patch.esp 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp AAF_GrayAnimations.esp Rogg DD Items Manager.esp Tripwires.esp Random Settlements For Minutemen Quests.esp SS2Extended.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_DonJunk-Rutah.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_Lewdmarks.esp roadflare.esp RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp SKKCombatSettlers.esp SKKHostileWorkshops.esp SSEX.esp SolarSensorSwitch.esp SettlementMenuManager.esp SimSettlements2_AddOnPack_ApocalypticAdditions_SirLach.esp Svbtats.esp SWG.esp SavageCabbage_Animations.esp ScavversSettlementKit.esp ScavversSettlementKit SMM.esp ZebrinasShackDoorExpansion.esp RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp ScrappySigns.esp ScrappySigns SMM.esp Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp RAW INPUT.esp OakleyMFrame.esp Order_of_Fenrir_Clothing_-_Handler.esp PhotoLight AIO.esp Photolight AIO - Crouch Toggle Fix.esp RainofBrassPetals.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_ASO_Blk.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_ASO_Brands.esp INVB_OverlayFramework_Tattoo_ASO_HP.esp PlantMe.esp True Nights v03.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp WeatherSynergy-VividPriority-N.esp Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp PlayerComments_DepravityPatch.esp PhotoMode.esp Piercing collection by MAIBATSU.esp Prisoner Shackles.esp Boats.esp Post Nuclear Girl.esp Binoculars.esp See You Sleep CW editon - Beta.esp Pipe Guns Are Still Guns.esp Raider Pet.esp rrs_fg.esp MelGarvey.esp QRF Flares- Red.esp SettlementPrivacy.esp Settler's Furniture.esp SimSettlements2ChildSupport.esp AlternateFurniture.esp BulbWire_Shadow.esp Snappable Covenant Walls.esp SilentTurrets.esp SlowerAffinityGain.esp SleekStylesPack.esp SettlementDefenceSystem.esp FPAttributes.esp RecruitableSettlersLeaders2.esp Snappy_HouseK-AutodoorsPatch.esp FP_SexualHarassment.esp Shino Clothes.esp Sound Slider Saver.esp SunLightAlignment.esp ThirdPersonFirstPersonAiming.esp ValiusHDTextures2K.esp ThirdPersonADS.esp Synth Overhaul.esp Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp TacticalMods.esp TacticalModsDLC.esp Female Tactical Armor.esp LureEnemies.esp SprintMfg.esp SprintStutterRemover.esp StainsStructures.esp StandaloneWorkbenches SMM.esp StimpakNoHealLimbs.esp Stimpaks help you breathe.esp TERAPirate.esp TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp TNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.esp HN66Fo4_TRS.esp TacticalBeanie.esp Tactical Combat Swimwear.esp Tactical Flashlights.esp Tactical Flashlights - Settings.esp EthreonMasterPlan SMM.esp Thematic and Practical.esp There It Is x Completionist.esp TacticalTablet_LMCC.esp NookyMonster DPO Textures ESL.esp mcgFemaleWalk-Granny-eng.esp Thematic and Practical - DLC.esp UGO_PlayerModule.esp True Caves.esp PD_VisualReload.esp PD_VReload_RaiderOverhaul.esp VividLOD.esp cVc Water Well.esp WeaponWallRacks.esp Wetness Shader Fix.esp XnjguyFilledMods_AIO.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC2.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC3.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 AWKCR-VIS_Patch.esp WaterPower.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 AutoDoors_Patch.esp VtawWardrobe4.esp VtawJumpsuit.esp VtawUtilityPack1.esp VtawWardrobe2.esp wasterArmor.esp winryTop.esp VtawWardrobe1.esp AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp VtawWardrobe5BeltsFix.esp WAVE.esp Arena Rugs.esp EvilViking13_WastelandWalls.esp FM_Wasteland_Mashups.esp WindowBoards.esp woodysWastelandStuff.esp cartman1975_warehouse.esp Wet Effects.esp GPNVG-WestTekPatch.esp WOF-NC_Patch.esp WeaponPackIntegrationProject_RAPFixesTR.esp WeaponPackIntegrationProject_WATM.esp Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp Third Person Movement Speed Fix.esp ToughGirlAttire.esp TransferSettlements.esp bTankTop.esp tdaFO4 Vanilla.esp Toxic Raider Armour.esp PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp VrexiaFixedCaltrops.esp This is MY Bed (Extended).esp Tiny Rocks on Gravel.esp Tone Slave.esp Transfusion Kits.esp Traps moved to AWKCR Explosives - VanPatch.esp Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp WeatherSynergy-FarHarbor.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp EFF.esp WR_UF4P.esp Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp vneck.esp Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul Redux.esp WR_VaultTec.esp WrapUpOutfit.esp ZebrinasWorkshopDevices-WorkshopRearranged.esp betterflares.esp WWP - PC.esp Kharneth_Slave_Clothes.esp le666piercings.esp personalvertibird.esp FaceMask_ArmorLLI.esp HalfMask_ArmorLLI.esp K-9 Harness_ArmorLLI.esp LeverActionShotgun_LLInjector.esp MikeMoore's_MCAM_LLInjector.esp RealThrowWeap_LLInjector.esp SG550_LLInjector.esp CumNWealth.esp CumNWealth_mutant.esp FO4_Leito_Voicefix.esp TatsAfterRape.esp Zaz Particles.esp Atomic Lust.esp AAF_Violate.esp AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp AAF_Violate_Nightstriker_Patch.esp AAFExtendedStats.esp AAF_Violate_FCOM_Patch.esp AAF_CreaturePack01.esp AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp BetterSettlers.esp BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp battlebrother13_fix_BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0_FHVoices.esp Beautiful Female Settlers v. 2.0 - BS Compatible.esp BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp BetterSettlersMostlyFemale.esp ScrapEverythingInteriorEnhencedPatch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp If I have certain plugins active, the game will get about 4 seconds into the main menu before the game will crash to desktop. Currently, the following plugins appear to be causing the crash: Spoiler Atomic Lust.esp EFF.esp PD_VReload_RaiderOverhaul.esp PD_VisualReload.esp Raider Pet.esp Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp ScrapEverythingInteriorEnhencedPatch.esp Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp Synth Overhaul.esp TacticalMods.esp TacticalModsDLC.esp ThirdPersonADS.esp ThirdPersonFirstPersonAiming.esp True Caves.esp ValiusHDTextures2K.esp VividLOD.esp VtawJumpsuit.esp VtawWardrobe1.esp VtawWardrobe2.esp VtawWardrobe4.esp WAVE.esp WaterPower.esp WeaponWallRacks.esp Wetness Shader Fix.esp XnjguyFilledMods_AIO.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 AWKCR-VIS_Patch.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 AutoDoors_Patch.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC2.esp cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC3.esp cVc Water Well.esp rrs_fg.esp I have double-checked each of the above plugins and confirmed beyond doubt that they are causing the crashes. Strangely, I receive no error messages regarding them in LOOT or Wrye Bash. As near as I can tell on their respective support threads, these plugins should be functioning perfectly fine at present. It can't be a plugin limit issue, as a number of the affected plugins are marked as light. Fixes I have attempted: Re-downloading and re-installing the failing plugins. Sorting plugins in LOOT. Using Vortex' "Purge Mods" feature. Disabling all other plugins and enabling only the affected plugins. This works, and allows the game to launch. As I enable more plugins, however, a new list of 30 or so plugins seem to be selected randomly throughout the remaining list and will prevent the game from launching. This becomes something like a cycle of randomized plugin failures where it feels like I'm slowly trudging through and enabling the plugins in some absurd sequence. As far as Vortex is concerned, there are little to no file overrides between most of the plugins that are affected, so I can't nail it down to file conflicts as being the root cause of the problem.
Sgt. Marge Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Do you have more than ~254 regular esp files in your load order? (An .esp can also be flagged esl but retain the esp extension so it's hard to tell, but since you are running ~744 plugins it's probably a good place to start, and I don't know how Vortex shows you that info but in Mod Organizer an esl flagged esp is shown in italics. The reason I ask is because there's basically a 255 plugin limit, but really the limit is 254 with the 255th as FE which is for esl files I believe. Edit: Apparently in Vortex the number of plugins is displayed on the plugins tab
Caco Demon Posted January 8, 2022 Author Posted January 8, 2022 No, I am currently at 243/254 plugins, so have at least 10 spaces left to fill. The plugins that are acting up are a mix of light and regular plugins, so I don't see it as being a plugin limit issue at all.
Sgt. Marge Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 So without those particular mods enabled, the game runs fine and you can make a character and save, exit the game and then load the save? It's such a weird selection for it to be having a problem with unless there's something outside of the mods itself that is rejecting. Do you have buffout installed, is it giving a log file for the crash?
Caco Demon Posted January 8, 2022 Author Posted January 8, 2022 I have Buffout installed, but I don't see any crash logs sitting around in my F4SE folder.
steelpanther24 Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 You may have a GPU memory issue. Some of those esp that you are using, are some pretty large ones. As you are an experienced modder (or I assume so with that number of mods), when you have eliminated the game related issues as the cause, you have to consider a possible PC related cause.
Caco Demon Posted January 8, 2022 Author Posted January 8, 2022 I have an even larger Skyrim SE plugin list which never runs into this problem. The issues I have been encountering only recently started cropping up. Unfortunately, I'm uncertain as to exactly when and which mods were installed at the time. Additionally, it doesn't seem to matter if I download and install new Fallout 4 mods on top of what I have already. Starting to think I'll have to bite the bullet and just go for a full re-install of all my mods. I appreciate your efforts to assist, however. Thanks.
Sgt. Marge Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 Some more thoughts Are you hitting "any key" -> main menu and then it crashes, or is it crashing before you hit "any key to continue" ? If it's not even letting you get to the point of hitting "load" for a save, I guess we can eliminate it being a corrupt save, but just for the heck of it, try moving all your saves to a different folder and see if that prevents a crash with all those mods enabled. Do you have a second monitor that you can have the task manager up to see what your system load is when you start the game? For example do you see the processes tab if something (like an antivirus / antimalware task for example) is eating cpu / memory / disk during that time? Have you tried verifying the game files in steam? Check your event viewer in windows to see if anything registers in there (like a video driver crash)?
steelpanther24 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Marg597 said: Are you hitting "any key" -> main menu and then it crashes, or is it crashing before you hit "any key to continue" ? Good point, I still haven't found that "any" key on my keyboard. Frustrating, because I can never lay most games. sigh.....
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