Alince Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 Well.. the description says all of it, after getting wigs AIO to work properly along with the Bijin hair physics mod I started experiencing small lags or studders in white run between 8AM-2PM game time. I dont really know what is causing it but nothing seem to be a problem since it does not happen even with the large battles I seen with the warzone mod, here is the mod list that I have: Spoiler -Clean Masters -SKSE Skyrim -SKSE64 ini pre-download for lazy users -Address Library for SKSE Plugins -MTG fix -Fuz Ro D-oh Silent Voice -CBPC - Physics with collisions(Set to Curvey Vanilla) -JContainers SE -PowerOfThree's Papyrus Extender -SkyUI SE -RaceMenu -Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE Behavior -FNIS Creatures -FNIS Spells -Fnis output folder -Animation Limit Crash Fix SSE -BodySlide and Outfit Studio SSE -BodySlide output folder -Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- -Fair Skin Complexion -Schlongs of Skyrim SE -Tempered Skins for Males - SOS Full Version -XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended -XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - Fixed Scripts -Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch -Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE -SexLabFrameworkSE_v -Sexlab LightMeUp SE -SexLabArousedSSELoose -SexLab Romance SE prev -Auto Unequip Ammo -NPC AI Process Position Fix - SSE -SSEEdit clean output -Skyland AIO -Skyrim 3D Trees and Plants -Realistic Lighting Overhaul (RLO) SSE All-In-One Installer -Obsidian Weathers and Seasons -CBPC Equipment Physics -HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics) -UNP Vanilla Outfits SE -ZAZ -ZAZ Animation Pack -Bijin Warmaidens SE -Bijin NPCs SE 1.2.1 -Bijin Wives SE 1.1.2 -Bijin AIO SE -Bijin Family Bodyslides - CBBE -Bijin Wives Customizer SSE - CBBE - 1.1 -Bijin Warmaidens Customizer SSE - CBBE - 1.1 -Bijin NPCs Customizer SSE - CBBE - 1.1 -KS Hairdos with physics for Men -Vampire Royal Armor Replacer HDT-SMP Cape -Seranaholic - Hair Physics Patch (KS Hairdos - HDT SMP) -Seranaholic and Valerica - Hair Physics Patch (KS Hairdos - HDT SMP) -Valerica SSE 1.8 -Seranaholic SSE 1.8 -Hvergelmir's Aesthetics - Brows -Hvergelmir's Aesthetics - Beards -SC - KS Hairdos Retextured for Bijin Series -Lustmord Vampire Armor - SSE CBBE BodySlide (with Physics) -Expressive Facegen Morphs SE -aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items -aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn -aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures -aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons -aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armor -Project NordwarUA - Wolf Armor -Project NordwarUA - Leather Armor -Project NordwarUA - Hide and Studded Hide Armor -Project NordwarUA - Fur Armor -Project NordwarUA - Dwarven Armor and Shield -Project NordwarUA - Khajiit Weapons and Armor -Project NordwarUA - Texture Pack -Guards Armor Replacer SSE -NordWarUA's Race Armor Expansion -Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes -Unplayable Faction Armors SSE -NordWarUA's Vanilla Armor Replacers SSE -NordwarUAs Armor Replacers - Female (CBBE) and Male (SMMB) Bodyslide -doticu_npc_lookup 2.1.3 -RUSTIC ARMOR and WEAPONS SE -Better Vampire Weapons 1.4 SE -RS Children Overhaul -Project ja-Kha'jay- Khajiit Diversity Overhaul -BeastHHBB - Khajiit and Argonian content - player character and NPC replacer -HDT-SMP for Cloaks and Capes -Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul -Realistic AI Detection SE (better sneaking) -Locational Damage(SKSE Plugin) -Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim -The Eyes Of Beauty SSE -Nether's Follower Framework -Flower Girls SE and VR -Amorous Adventures PLUS -Dream Angels CBBE SSE BodySlide Preset -UNP AND CBBE Racemenu SE Collection of Tattoos Warpaints and Overlays -Community Overlays 1 (0-30) Bodypaints Warpaints Tattoos and more made for the Community (Special Edition) -Community Overlays 2 (31-50) Bodypaints Warpaints Tattoos and more made for the Community (Special Edition) -Community Overlay 3 (51- 70) Bodypaints Warpaints and Tattoos -Dark Brotherhood Armor Replacer - CBBE Bodyslide -JS Imperial Guard Centurion Armor - SSE CBBE BodySlide -Multiple Followers Framework -Apachii Divine Elegance Store -PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions -UIExtensions -Yamete -AhegaoTonguesHDT -Moonlight Tales Special Edition - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul -Beards of Power -Beards of Power 3D Real beards -Furnitures Height Size Fix -Dawi (Dwarf) - Playable Race (Warhammer Fantasy) -Dynamic Animation Replacer -Conditional Armor Type Animations -Leviathan Animations - Male Idle Walk And Run -Become a Bard -Auto Unequip Shield to Back for Skyrim SE - Backshields SE -Auto Unequip Shield to Back - clipping patch for Cloaks of Skyrim -Immersive Patrols SE -DIVERSE SKYRIM SSE -Open Civil War SSE -Civil War Aftermath SE -WARZONES - Civil Unrest for SSE -Man Those Borders SSE -Immersive Weapons -Immersive Armors -LazyFollowers -Expressive Facial Animation -Female Edition- -Expressive Facial Animation -Male Edition- -Yundao Hair with physics SSE -HDT-SMP Physics Racemenu Hairs and Wigs Unisex - Male and Female - CBBE 3BA - BHUNP - HIMBO -KS Hairdos - HDT SMP (Physics) -Bijin All-In-One - Hair Physics (KS Hairdos - HDT SMP) Now as for the Plugins: Spoiler -Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition patch.esp -RSkyrimChildren.esm -SexLab.esm -ZaZAnimationPack.esm -Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl -FolowerGirls SE.esm -SexLabAroused.esm -Schlong of Skyrim - Core.esm -Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm -SkyUI_SE.esp -WarZones - SSE civil unrest.esp -Obisdian Weather.esp -RaceMenu.esp -RaceMenuPlugin.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp -S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp -CBBE.esp -RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp -SOSRaceMenu.esp -XPMSE.esp -SexlabLightMeUp.esp -Auto Unequip Ammo.esp -Skyland_Watercolor_Blue.esp -RLO - Effects.esp -Civil War Afthermath.esp -RLO Exteriors.esp -Man Those Borders!.esp -OwnCivilWar.esp -Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp -Immersive Weapons.esp -KSHairdosSMP.esp -doticu npc lookup.esp -Brows.esp -Beards.esp -KS Hairdos SMP for Men.esp -BeastHHBB.esp -RSChildren.esp -Cloack&Capes SMP.esp -Amidianborn_Skyforge Weapons.esp -DIS_Replacer.esp -Guards Armor Replacer.esp -AltairVampireRoyal.esp -TheEyesOfBeauty.esp -KSWigsSMP.esp -Immersive Patrols II.esp -SexLab Romance.esp -Apachii DivineEleganceStore Patch.esp -Dawi Race.esp -Project Ja-Kha'jay Khajit Diversity.esp -Yemete.esp -Better Vampire Weapons.esp -AmorousAdventuresPlus.esp -DIS Armor Fractions.esp -Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp -LustmordVampireArmor.esp -Schlong of Skyrim.esp -SOS SAA.esp -SOS VPMA.esp -SOS VPRA.esp -FNIS.esp -AIO SE Tattos.esp -CommunityOverlays1.esp -CommunityOverlays2.esp -CommunityOverlays3.esp -MFF Core.esp -UIExtensions.esp -Moonlight Tales SE.esp -Beards of Power HDT-SMP.esp -HeightSizeFix.esp -BecomeABard.esp -BackShield.esp -BSSE EnneadShieldsPatch.esp -Diverse Skyrim.esp -ArmorFractionReplacer.esp -BeastHHBB Unsullied Khajit Patch.esp -Hothtrooper44 Armor Ecksstra.esp -LazyFollowers.esp -Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs Dint999.esp -Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs Fuse.esp -Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs HHairstyles.esp -Bijin AIO.esp -Bijin AIO Hair Physics.esp -NordWarUA's Race Armor Expansion.esp -Serana.esp -Valerica.esp -Serana Hair Physics.esp -Valerica Hair Physics.esp -Immersive Citizen AI Overhaul.esp -Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp -Alternative start.esp -nwsFollowerFramework.esp -RLO - Interiors.esp -RLO - VIS Patch.esp -WACCF BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp That is all, only 133 mods and 110 Plugins, I really dont know exactly what causes the jitter between a very specific in game time frame in Whiterun, ill test other cities just to be sure to see if it replicates itself but in Riverwood for example it does not happen. If anyone knows how to figure out what causes this or knows a way to fix it, please help
anjenthedog Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 No, I don't know "the answer", but I do have a leading question.... Do you have actor limit fix installed and configured? I found that after installing it - while not a 100% panacea - the number of glitchy situations in "busy intersections" (pubs, random convergences of large groups of NPCs, etc) dropped considerably to maybe 1/4 or less. In addition, are all the NPC fems (unsure about males) using SMP all the time? If so, I'd suggest reducing that "default usage" to only select followers and NPCs, as well as the player if SMP able. SMP is far more computationally taxing than CBPC and can hit the system harder too...
Alince Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, anjenthedog said: No, I don't know "the answer", but I do have a leading question.... Do you have actor limit fix installed and configured? I found that after installing it - while not a 100% panacea - the number of glitchy situations in "busy intersections" (pubs, random convergences of large groups of NPCs, etc) dropped considerably to maybe 1/4 or less. In addition, are all the NPC fems (unsure about males) using SMP all the time? If so, I'd suggest reducing that "default usage" to only select followers and NPCs, as well as the player if SMP able. SMP is far more computationally taxing than CBPC and can hit the system harder too... hmm.. im unsure if I had the option to apply it to everyone... I dont think its everyone, only the participants of Bijin Wives,NPCs and Warmaidens as far as I know, and I dont think I have actor limit fix installed to be frank. by the way fair to mention that I changed in the documents ini file a few things upon this, first in the Skyrim one I add blockFrame = 0 and than in SkyrimPrefIni I changed the vSync from 1 to 0 in order to force the nvidia card one to do the heavy lifting, I also have the BethINI as backups just in case.
Alince Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 Wait... the blockFrame = 0 seem to have been the problem all along, I removed it and only left Vsync as is post change and it seem to work properly again... but now I have no clue if it forces the game to have a steady framerate nor if it uses the Nvidia Vsync. In the Nvidia Experience panel it says its optimal settings but it does not include Vsync there as an option from what I see, can anyone guide me so I could verify if its indeed optimal, I mean I am running the game through MO2 which disconnects it from the Skyrim launcher(just in cast I add skse64_loader.exe to the exception list on the Nvidia settings set to high as well. Dammit... this is really annoying... the problem still persists, I really hope I got it right this time, ok so when I first spawn into whiterun(I only encounter this in whiterun) and I leave the Inn to the conversation that is going outside the first time you go to whiterun at the market with the lady looking for her son, I get those weird lags, its not even a lag its just a framerate drop, once the conversation is over all of a sudden the speed goes back to normal even if people are on and about in the market itself, I think the same applies with the quest to look for the foreign woman there along with the vampire hunter dude. will I need to go through every quest to see if it lags? also the message carrier can be a factor
Alince Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 Second realization... apparently the lag was caused by skeleton incompatibilities when I used Dawi mod, by opening up RaceMenu and reverting it back to the Vanilla races(In addition to having SexLab somehow changing the race of my custom follower upon activation of a scene on them) fixed the issue entirely. I was hoping to keep the Dawi race because playing as a dwarf sounds awesome but apparently you cant do that with all the mods im smacking on top of it. Edit: I was wondering, how would one even go about in fixing the skeleton problem with the dawi race with all the mods, that is if its even possible.
anjenthedog Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Just so we're clear...when you say you 'turned on VSync', do you mean in skyrimprefs.ini you have the setting iVSyncPresentInterval=1 ? (see https://www.legendarymage.com/how-to-turn-on-vsync-skyrim/) And fwiw, since VSync is still apparently an issue, in Nvidia Control Panel >> Manage 3D Settings I have Veritcal Sync >> Use global setting (Use the 3D application setting) As far as your custom dwarven/little-people race goes, I'm not sure if you mean that you the player would be this dwarven character or many would be members of it... If just you, well, the skins (textures) and custom head mesh might be crucial, but the skeleton and meshes needed for such a look are right in front of you. (XPMSSE, racemenued body) 1) install the xpmsse skeleton 2) create a cbbe-family/unp-family bodyslide output body, making sure you check the build morphs checkbox for racemenu support. Try to adjust it to produce the right look ~basically. raemenu adjustments will provide the rest. 3) Install mod Racemenu - Thigh Position Sliders (this will allow you to achieve that slight waddling frame that the dwarven (robust little people we generally align to the name "dwarven") tend to have 3) in game, use racemenu's Body Scales column to compress the body dimensions (image below is what I adjusted the spine for, for a ~5ft tall, modestly "squat" woman, but it should give you some ideas.) , as well as other racemenu settings as needed. Note: I outlined just the ones that are defining the body frame adjustment for less than "normal/average' human proportions. Spoiler Note that for her (the chracter I was working on), I made her thighs shorter and her hip carriage wider, as many squatter women seem to have. You can maybe see how carrying that idea farther could produce that "hobbit like" carriage that has historically defined "dwarves" as a specific type, up until Skyrim and Peter Jackson's (imo sloppy) imagining of dwarves (aside from a few overindulgent old ones who got rotund with age and guttony) as proportioned like buff ~5'3-4" tall guys like Sylvester Stallone... ie, reimagined them as something they were never imagined by cultures who created the dwarven mythos in the first place... Dwarves were more akin to "little folk" ... or "dwarves", in common parlance for centuries until the Great Awokening erased and replaced the word as one that shall not be spoken, or "midgets" although that one I suppose I understand not using, but in any case, they weren't buff, barrel-chested Faeries, Gnomes or Wee folk like Kili "The Harlequin Gigolo" who romanced the elven princess in the Hobbit movies... Dwarfs were a separate group unto themselves - whoops. sorry, rant mode off... Ok, back on track... Do you have other mods altering Whiterun or any other cities? Building or other "city resource" mods or any of those "rainy puddles" type mods installed by any chance?
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