Remove esl flag sometimes solve CTD issue for same saved data (just report)

[greenmango12]

Though I do not know clear  reason.. But I experienced 2 mods which esl flag esp cause issue. but after remove esl flag  I could  load same save data without problem.. (and after that no issue)

 

You may sometimes see famous CTD NET clush log when Up-date or install mods for saved data. (without new game)

"Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFFDFA7F1F9 (SchlongsOfSkyrim.dll+F1F9) on thread 8240!"  

 

I understand, this log usually means, I change esp load order.   But about those 2 mods,  One is NPC replacer mod, which I had not installed.  and 2nd is famous sexlab SLAL animation pack.

(but new version offered as esl flag esp). 

 

About  animation mod, I remove old version once, and run-FNIS, then save data.. after that install new esl flag esp version SLAL pack.  then run FNIS again (no error) and just load saved data. >> CTD.    I really could not find reason  which might cause CTD... so only one thing I noticed is new version offered as esl flag esp.  then I just remove the esl flag without any conviction.

and  load same save data >>  No CTD.?

 

Anothe one is  NPC mod, it make one  Vanila NPC as Follower with change  facegen.  the mod was actually miss assgin face part.. (there are 2 language version, then I suppose mod author happend to miss ) then I correct it.. and tried to install (activate in MO2, and set plug in load order as I need), >> still cause CTD..   I remembered when I remove esl flag, it solve CTD for animation mod, ,, then did same thing, it worked..  I can load same save data without problem.. 

 

So about both case,, I only remove esl falg, then activate the mod >>  it not cause CTD about same saved data.. (without try with new game)

 

Then I think if someone  up-date mod then see un-expected CTD when load saved data, but can not solve the problem..so you may think to try with new game,, 

I may recommend, if it is flagged as esl. remove it with Tess V edit. and try it .. it may sometimes work.

 

 I do not hope to expand rumor without confirm,, but I see same 2 case between a few days. So just report it.. (if someone have experienced  same thing I hoped to know clear reason, why it could work, and esl version cause CTD with saved data..) 

 btw I know, which type mod can change as esl flag, and limitation..  when I check those 2 mod,, form IDs between xx000800 and xx000FFF (so usually they can add esl flag) so it is not wrong esl flag esp.. (then I can not reprot it as bug)

[as5685009]

I'm also having issues with CTD now when the ESP has the ESL flag, when a new mod is installed its esp has the esl flag and if you sort it higher than the original esl loading an existing save will definitely happen CTD, put it at the bottom of the sort or start a new game and it will work fine. Or remove the esl flag as you said. (Google Translate)

edit: I have found the reason for CTD, from NET Script Framework's explanation

*This can occur if you try to change your load order or eslify one of your mods with the Schlongs of Skyrim mod installed. 
FIX: Load your save before the change in load order and reschlongify all your armors in the MCM. On the safe side, you can reset the mod as well. Make a save after and proceed with load order change. If you are unable to load your save prior to changing your load order, you can try hiding your schlongsofskyrim.dll file temporarily, loading your game, and proceed with the instructions stated above. Make sure you unhide your dll file right after.