update.esm 400+ ITM's

[airnox]

Really? 

 

Dragonborn 300+ ITM's

Heartfire 200+ ITM's

Dawnguard 300+ ITM's 

Update esm 400+ ITM's 

 

I don't know what, how and why, but i cleaned these shit with xEdit. Could this be the reason Dragonborn quest makes me crash traveling to Solstheim? I guess i will find out soon. 

[Tlam99]

Never clean the main esm.

[airnox]

7 minutes ago, T-lam said:

Never clean the main esm.

 

I didn't cleaned Skyrim.esm. Just the update.esm and dlc 

[alex77r4]

 

I not make a clean of the masters from a lot of years ago. I really doubt yours problems can have a relation to the ITM's.

 

ITM mean Identical To Master. Is a record that, in the 99% of the times, make absolutely nothing. Is indifferent read the record from Skyrim.esm or read it from Dragonborn.esm because the record is the same. The only problem that can cause the ITM's is when are located inside an ESP in the middle of the load order because can revert the changes of others mods. More clear:

 

Record 334455 in Skyrim.esm

Record 334455 in Dragonborn.esm = ITM = no problem

Record 334455 in mymod1.esp = change something = OK

Record 334455 in mymod2.esp = ITM = PROBLEM because revert the changed made by mymod1.esp

 

[Tlam99]

14 minutes ago, airnox said:

Just the update.esm and dlc 

Never clean those , too

 

Just imagin, a mod has Dragonborn.esm as master.  You removed the record. Then you need to add skyrim.esm as master, too.

Because Dragonborn does not have this record.

 

[airnox]

10 minutes ago, T-lam said:

Never clean those , too

 

Just imagin, a mod has Dragonborn.esm as master.  You removed the record. Then you need to add skyrim.esm as master, too.

Because Dragonborn does not have this record.

 

 

hmm, well i did made a back up of those files just in case. I'll keep playing with these clean files for now and see how it goes. Thx! 

[Just Don't]

Nope. Back in the day when there was no automated cleaning process ITMs where like 200, 102, 46, maybe 400 for DG because it was a mess (you even had to clean it twice, then manually). Nowadays it's an automated process and most likely not needed. The only reason I haven them cleaned is because I did it back in ~2017 and if someone else wants to do it is a quick process.

 

And if I remember correctly, you made a post saying your game was crashing whenever you tried to go to Solstheim... I told you already, the cause of that crash is not in the game files (if it is, verify game files, don't alter them even more) and the fix is not cleaning them. Go back to the original files and start looking in the mods you have installed. Go one by one if you need to, it's slow but it's something. If you keep looking in the wrong place you won't progress at all.

[Tlam99]

9 hours ago, airnox said:

just in case.

Remember on final battle Miraak.

 

[alternateaccounts]

I skipped cleaning masters for SE when I couldn't find TESEdit, haven't had a single CTD, x64 stable af.