Relationship Dialogue System (04/10/2021)

[Harry Smackmeat]

On 1/17/2022 at 11:06 AM, NotHereForFaps said:

Nice mod, though there are some typos that could use cleaning up as well as an issue with "ForceGreet" not causing an approach, instead it's just added into the usual dialogue menu for the player to select it. Not sure if it's just a mod conflicting (I'm using FlowerGirls, in case that causes some kind of conflict? Vortex didn't mention any conflicts at all however) or if it's something more people have noticed?

 

I get forcegreet in my dialog window when the NPC tries to force greet me but it fails for whatever reason.  Seems to be rare for me though.

[rohani4462]

Works with Anniversary Edition?

[semper_solus]

I can't figure out how to get this mod to register the "Active NPC" in the Debug menu for editing purposes. I thought it might be the same targeter that i use for all the other SLab mods but this one has me confused.

[LynErso666]

On 2/11/2022 at 6:48 AM, semper_solus said:

I can't figure out how to get this mod to register the "Active NPC" in the Debug menu for editing purposes. I thought it might be the same targeter that i use for all the other SLab mods but this one has me confused.

 

Yeah that's surprisingly my only bug with this mod. No active npc in debug menu and absolutely no apparent way to get one in there. lol. I'll take it tho if that's the only problem. I just wish there was more info about this mod. Like why's diagnostics saying all the quests save for a few are stopped but the mod works? What does it mean? How do I start the quests? Or even EVER get them to trigger at all? I just want info! lol

[zelurker]

10 hours ago, LynErso666 said:

 

Yeah that's surprisingly my only bug with this mod. No active npc in debug menu and absolutely no apparent way to get one in there. lol. I'll take it tho if that's the only problem. I just wish there was more info about this mod. Like why's diagnostics saying all the quests save for a few are stopped but the mod works? What does it mean? How do I start the quests? Or even EVER get them to trigger at all? I just want info! lol

 

You must use the illusion spell "rds debug something", cast it on a npc, then this npc will appear in the debug screen (I found the info in the LE thread).

It's a lot less convenient than what SLEN does of course, and it should be able to just detect the npc in the cross hair, but anyway...

 

The author seems to have abandoned the mod for the time being.

 

For the quests they trigger if you progress in the trust zone and things happen. Notice that depending on the npc personality you can sometimes have sex with them but it doesn't imply anything about their trust. A lot of info is missing on what all these character traits do, plus you always have the same lines of dialog if that's you who starts talking, so it's quite frustrating.

 

I keep it because last version is stable anyway, and it can create funny scenes sometimes, but yeah it lacks quite a lot of things to make it really interesting sadly... (but it's insane to make complex dialogs in skyrim, the game was really not made for complex dialogs).

Edited March 11, 2022 by zelurker

[besinister]

I need some help!

This mod was working fine for me until yesterday.  I don't know what has happened. The conversations are not working.  I do not get any approaches, nor do I get the option to start a conversation "Do you want to talk".  I do still get the background comments.  I also get notification that I cheated on NPC.  My NPC flame still lives in my house.  However, I cannot start RDS conversation.  The only changes to my mod list since RDS was working is and update to "Yield to me" to version 220309 from 220302.  I rolled back to 220302 and this did not fix the issue.  I also added "Actor Limit Fix SE" which I have since uninstalled.  The problem is still there. 

Does anyone have any ideas what is going on?

[zelurker]

22 hours ago, besinister said:

I need some help!

This mod was working fine for me until yesterday.  I don't know what has happened. The conversations are not working.  I do not get any approaches, nor do I get the option to start a conversation "Do you want to talk".  I do still get the background comments.  I also get notification that I cheated on NPC.  My NPC flame still lives in my house.  However, I cannot start RDS conversation.  The only changes to my mod list since RDS was working is and update to "Yield to me" to version 220309 from 220302.  I rolled back to 220302 and this did not fix the issue.  I also added "Actor Limit Fix SE" which I have since uninstalled.  The problem is still there. 

Does anyone have any ideas what is going on?

 

did you try to go back to an older save ? Saves sometimes glitch in skyrim... !

[besinister]

15 minutes ago, zelurker said:

did you try to go back to an older save ? Saves sometimes glitch in skyrim... !

 

zelurker, thanks for the reply.  I tried going to a save from a week ago, and I still had the problem.  This morning I uninstalled RDS, activated SSE made a new save without RDS, and then reinstalled RDS.  I just checked and that seems to have fixed it.  I was reading some of the comments on actor limit that stated they had issues with NPC's not finishing a conversation with the PC about a quest.  This prevented him from having conversations with other NPC's about the quest.  I think that what may have happened here.  I Will continue playing without Actor Limit Fix.

[zelurker]

5 hours ago, besinister said:

 

zelurker, thanks for the reply.  I tried going to a save from a week ago, and I still had the problem.  This morning I uninstalled RDS, activated SSE made a new save without RDS, and then reinstalled RDS.  I just checked and that seems to have fixed it.  I was reading some of the comments on actor limit that stated they had issues with NPC's not finishing a conversation with the PC about a quest.  This prevented him from having conversations with other NPC's about the quest.  I think that what may have happened here.  I Will continue playing without Actor Limit Fix.

 

Yeah I just had the same in mine. Nothing to do apparently, purge button in the mcm does nothing, no quest started in the mcm, turning it off and on changes nothing, I even had a look with the resaver, no script stuck in active state, it's just broken... And making a clean save would mean resetting all relations, which is equivalent to restarting a new game !

In other words, it's another unstable mod on loverslab, and it's better not to use it while it's not fixed... Too bad !

 

edit : found more info in the le thread there :

apparently they are broken during 24h only, which is better than resetting completely the mod. I'll go and test that... !

 

and after testing I needed only to sleep 1 hour, either I was lucky or the 24h delay announced was really too high ! Anyway it works, perfect, back into action !

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by zelurker

[besinister]

18 hours ago, zelurker said:

Yeah I just had the same in mine. Nothing to do apparently, purge button in the mcm does nothing, no quest started in the mcm, turning it off and on changes nothing, I even had a look with the resaver, no script stuck in active state, it's just broken... And making a clean save would mean resetting all relations, which is equivalent to restarting a new game !

In other words, it's another unstable mod on loverslab, and it's better not to use it while it's not fixed... Too bad !

 

edit : found more info in the le thread there :

apparently they are broken during 24h only, which is better than resetting completely the mod. I'll go and test that... !

 

and after testing I needed only to sleep 1 hour, either I was lucky or the 24h delay announced was really too high ! Anyway it works, perfect, back into action !

 

Zelurker - Thanks again for your assistance.  I didn't think to look at the LE version to see if this was happening there.  Since I have already restarted RDS on a clean save I will watch for this to happen in the future. If it does I will make sure I wait 24 -48 in game hours to seelif it resets.

[zelurker]

3 hours ago, besinister said:

 

Zelurker - Thanks again for your assistance.  I didn't think to look at the LE version to see if this was happening there.  Since I have already restarted RDS on a clean save I will watch for this to happen in the future. If it does I will make sure I wait 24 -48 in game hours to seelif it resets.

 

They said to sleep 24 hours, I slept only 1 hour, so maybe sleeping is more important than waiting here, in doubt find a bed !

[LynErso666]

I'm happy with the way it works now. It certainly cuts out of dialogues a lot and it's real hard to tweak the settings, but at least you can debug people relatively easily. I certainly hope to see this updated in the future, but it's a pretty kewl mod.

[LynErso666]

Wait you can't have a chat with two people and invite them both for sex at the same time????.... Why are threesome animations even a thing? Virtually no mods use them. it's weird af.

[Gukahn]

15 minutes ago, LynErso666 said:

Wait you can't have a chat with two people and invite them both for sex at the same time????.... Why are threesome animations even a thing? Virtually no mods use them. it's weird af.

.. There are a BUNCH of mods you can call up threesomes, foresomes and gangbangs. Just look around

[LynErso666]

1 hour ago, Gukahn said:

.. There are a BUNCH of mods you can call up threesomes, foresomes and gangbangs. Just look around

Omg but I can't find any. Why would I not look around before asking on Loverslab? lol. This website moves like an ent moot. I'm not talking about a matchmaker queue with Sexlab Tools SE Patched, or a gangbang in Radiant Prositution (probably the only immersive one I've seen for Skyrim AE), or a targeted Sexlab ZaZ hotkey, or a \minor quest plugin with gangbangs for a specific point in your game like Cidna Mine, Dibella Sisterhood, and Prison mods. And Sexlab Survival isn't ready for SE at all. The beta is very unstable for the latest SKSE apparently. And I don't even remember that many opportunities for it in that one. So please, which one? Sexlab Approach? Sexlab Rape Aroused (that one has a very minor threesome fit in, but no gangbangs)? Off the top o' ur head, anything? Because, trust me, if a mod comes out for SE, I usually know about it, whether it's on Schaken, Bethesda, Nexus, Loverslab, AFK, and other websites my keyboard doesn't have the characters to type nor do I understand the translations. Immersive calls for gangbangs and threesomes have always been a pretty rare thing, but now with Skyrim AE, it's even more rare.

Edited March 23, 2022 by LynErso666

[LynErso666]

Finally got Realistic and all other personalities and their relationships working by altering how X and Y is raised. It wasn't firing right in my game for some reason. Now X and Y go up to 15 sometimes for me, disabling the rude conversation failures altogether. I'm now wondering if some of the problems I'm having are a result of Skyrim AE's change of the scripts source folder. This mod places the source folder in scripts. I can't be sure though. It's just hearsay.

[Gukahn]

8 hours ago, LynErso666 said:

Omg but I can't find any. Why would I not look around before asking on Loverslab? lol. This website moves like an ent moot. I'm not talking about a matchmaker queue with Sexlab Tools SE Patched, or a gangbang in Radiant Prositution (probably the only immersive one I've seen for Skyrim AE), or a targeted Sexlab ZaZ hotkey, or a \minor quest plugin with gangbangs for a specific point in your game like Cidna Mine, Dibella Sisterhood, and Prison mods. And Sexlab Survival isn't ready for SE at all. The beta is very unstable for the latest SKSE apparently. And I don't even remember that many opportunities for it in that one. So please, which one? Sexlab Approach? Sexlab Rape Aroused (that one has a very minor threesome fit in, but no gangbangs)? Off the top o' ur head, anything? Because, trust me, if a mod comes out for SE, I usually know about it, whether it's on Schaken, Bethesda, Nexus, Loverslab, AFK, and other websites my keyboard doesn't have the characters to type nor do I understand the translations. Immersive calls for gangbangs and threesomes have always been a pretty rare thing, but now with Skyrim AE, it's even more rare.

Ok if we narrow it down with your key points the former bigger list becomes very small of course. Let's see.. I can't give you any pointer about their performance with AE, only SE before the big update.

For loving and concensual we have Eager npc´s

 

It gives you plenty of options to choose from and even trys to give you a little bit of control what kind of animations start, like an option for furniture anims, rough scenes, anal, vaginal ect, ect.

To get 3 somes or gangbangs with it, you need at least one(maybe with 2, i am not so sure rn),  npc with relationship 4 but it update the rank of your relations with npc´s so it's easy to get to that. It also has options for Events to trigger. Clearing a Location: You and your followers get to it, can lead to gangbang or multiple separate scenes. Depends on how you set the mod up, its very customizable.

 

 

And for 3 somes and rape there is bakas defeat. I advice to disable npc x npc tho. Its buggy at the moment and doesn't really work as intended. You can mark a follower and command him to force himself on someone or you both can force yourself with it.

And finally, only if you play female, trans or gay male there is naked defeat. It all works around the player, your char will get raped, forced and humiliated by enemys. I think it also has something where your followers also get raped by it but i never used it and can't give you more infos on it.

 

 

Again i can't say anything about if they work with AE, but i think at least Eager should.. It's only a dialogue trigger without anything too complicated

Edited March 23, 2022 by Gukahn

[LynErso666]

9 hours ago, Gukahn said:

Ok if we narrow it down with your key points the former bigger list becomes very small of course. Let's see.. I can't give you any pointer about their performance with AE, only SE before the big update.

For loving and concensual we have Eager npc´s

 

It gives you plenty of options to choose from and even trys to give you a little bit of control what kind of animations start, like an option for furniture anims, rough scenes, anal, vaginal ect, ect.

To get 3 somes or gangbangs with it, you need at least one(maybe with 2, i am not so sure rn),  npc with relationship 4 but it update the rank of your relations with npc´s so it's easy to get to that. It also has options for Events to trigger. Clearing a Location: You and your followers get to it, can lead to gangbang or multiple separate scenes. Depends on how you set the mod up, its very customizable.Again i can't say anything about if they work with AE, but i think at least Eager should.. It's only a dialogue trigger without anything too complicated

 

 

Omg thanks! You are incredibly helpful. I love it. Thank you so much. I have been on the fence about SLEN because I tried it years ago and it very weirdly caused a lot of follower issues with AFT. But I'll give it a shot again and see what happens. So thank you.

[x2119225]

If I can, I hope to live in NPC's home. In this way, I can develop a relationship with an NPC and get the right to live in his home. In some villages where there is no place to sleep, I can sleep in his home.

[griffinpyros]

I had a weird issue, I had my follower fall inlove with me, than married, she mentioned that I need to clean my home, but I can't find any way to do that. Is it tied to furnishing your home? I started in Breeze Home with everyones favorite starter mod and noticed cobwebs all over, but couldn't figure out why. Does RDS play a roll in this somehow?

[CobraPL]

Thx for bumping this thread, really. Because I got to know this mod!

House cleaning is unfinished - dome dirt one can clean with broom, while some other is unremovable.
On AE - MCM menus are bugged. I need to change one option, rest of them freeze, I need do leave MCM and go back.

EDIT: Well, idea was good, mod is just unpolished. NPCs spam MC with nagging - in case they start asking script just before MC leaves area - NPC is stuck in last area, until MC goes get them back.

Followers start to spam MC with blackmails etc. Thank god dev was a pro, so he left a lot of switches to disable bad/broken/boring mechanics.

I see the author retired modding, so, well, you know.

Edited May 10, 2022 by CobraPL

[LynErso666]

On 5/9/2022 at 1:58 PM, CobraPL said:

Thx for bumping this thread, really. Because I got to know this mod!

House cleaning is unfinished - dome dirt one can clean with broom, while some other is unremovable.
On AE - MCM menus are bugged. I need to change one option, rest of them freeze, I need do leave MCM and go back.

EDIT: Well, idea was good, mod is just unpolished. NPCs spam MC with nagging - in case they start asking script just before MC leaves area - NPC is stuck in last area, until MC goes get them back.

Followers start to spam MC with blackmails etc. Thank god dev was a pro, so he left a lot of switches to disable bad/broken/boring mechanics.

I see the author retired modding, so, well, you know.

Oh wow I never get spammed with blackmails, but yeah, this mod is def one of the best. Do you use Nether's Follower Framework with this? Cause I never could get it to work again once I switched over to NFF from the now thoroughly deprecated AFT.

[LynErso666]

On 5/21/2022 at 1:00 AM, LynErso666 said:

Oh wow I never get spammed with blackmails, but yeah, this mod is def one of the best. Do you use Nether's Follower Framework with this? Cause I never could get it to work again once I switched over to NFF from the now thoroughly deprecated AFT.

Nevermind, forget what I said about NFF. It's fine. RDS is still working for me. I gotta stop testing RDS in Bruma! It doesn't work right in any location it can't track it's reputation in and quests lock up. Oof. But yeah, some of the relationship things for boyfriends and bang-buddies doesn't work, but it doesn't destroy the mod at all. Just don't try to use the advanced relationships in Bruma. Omg. I had to use resetquest on the RDS_Relationships Quest to get it working again after trying to get a Blackmail to happen in an untracked location like Bruma.

[fawksiii]

Anyway to stop followers and npcs from approaching during combat?

[LynErso666]

On 6/28/2022 at 9:37 AM, fawksiii said:

Anyway to stop followers and npcs from approaching during combat?

No there are no checks of any kind. It doesn't check to see if you're already in dialogue, in combat, already banging someone else, if you're even alive and not a mannequin. No checks.