frostking Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 After updating my lovers files to newer versions, I have noticed that killing vampires, and many other evil NPCs, (even when they attack first), gives a murder count. No search I have done 'anywhere' turns-up any information on a problem like this. Besides driving me nuts, I can go no farther on my game until I can find some resolution for this. Any input would be appreciated.
Tom21 Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 It's Been Doing that to me for a will Now! Â Vampires, Necromancers, Bandits...Ea...Ea...
gregathit Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Couple of things: Â 1. Did you make a clean save (with NO lovers esm/esp active)? 2. Did you add any "other" mods recently. Â Without a clean save old lovers info is still stored and active in/from your save game. Also I have often blamed a mod for doing something only to have to eat my hat when I discovered all along it was another.... It sounds like something has changed your faction or some other trigger to cause these killings to be considered murders. Â A Last check is to start a new game and check to see if it occurs then. Â Keep us Posted. Failing the above post your load order and we will see if we can help!
frostking Posted October 29, 2011 Author Posted October 29, 2011 1. New game after a fresh re-install of the game. 2. Only Fargyl village, and U.L Brena River Ravine updated. Â Load Order? Â Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm TantrivayliaChimer.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm TamrielTravellers.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm BathingMod_Base.esm Knights.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp sexycompanion.esp MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp x117Race ENG Race.esp Better Redguard v2.esp Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OOO-Level_Stock.esp Mart's Monster Mod.esp Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Wyvern.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Balrogs.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp Crowded Roads Revisited.esp Crowded Roads Revisited_ChorrolCheydinhal_40.esp Crowded Roads Revisited_GoldRoad_40.esp Crowded Roads Revisited_GreenRoad_40.esp Crowded Roads Revisited_YellowRoad_40.esp Crowded Roads Advanced.esp Hentai Mania.esp OOO_Hentai Mania.esp Tantrivaylia.esp Faregyl.esp Great Forest Guardian Tower.esp Hideout.esp runestone.esp Property In The Elven Ruins.esp Camping.esp Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xuldarkforest.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp xulImperialIsle.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulSnowdale.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Green Emperor Way.esp ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - The Arcane University Towers Visible From Outside.esp SB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Modified Version.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp PTFallingStars.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp Dark Dungeons.esp Dark Dungeons - SI.esp Reznod_Mannequin.esp Dxcufgb's Complete Arena Quest.esp Dxcufgb's Complete Night Mother Quest.esp AdoringFanIsNoMore.esp attack and hide medium v2.0.esp GalerionTrueUnarmored-v20.esp Enhanced_Hand_to_hand-2329.esp No psychic guards v1.2.esp DID3_DoubleTrouble.esp MadCompanionshipSpells.esp zzEstrus.esp zzContainerTrap English.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburgNoDelay.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSlavePlay.esp LoversBed.esp LoversMB2.esp SetBody.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversSurrender.esp Lovers with PK.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversFSE.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp TamagoSetBody.esp TamagoBreak.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp BathingMod_Soap.esp StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp Dungeon Explorer.esp More_Shields.esp HGEC AA,B,D-Cup Chainmail None replacer.esp JUSTICE HGEC Steelarmor Replacer.esp Angeleron.esp Gizmodian - Vicious Heart.esp MassA.I-50.esp Kill_Bruma_Statue.esp Â
gregathit Posted October 29, 2011 Posted October 29, 2011 Ok, Based on what I see I have the following comments:  1. Have you used BOSS to sort your load order? If so then great. go to step 2. If not grab BOSS at the nexus and run it.  2. Reorder your lovers esp's and esm's per the below (note: this load order comes from the FAQ at: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=3 - see txt file at bottom of 1st post.   all other esm's here Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm <---last esm   All other esp's here SetBody.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburgNoDelay.esp LoversSlavePlay.esp LoversBed.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp Lovers with PK.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversSurrender.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp <----last esp    3. Disable all lovers esp's and esm's in OBMM and launch the game. Load your latest save and then hit escape and make a new save (this is a clean save) then exit.  4. Enable all lovers esp's and esm's (with the load order shown in the spoiler) and launch Oblivion again and load your clean save from step 3.  Now go kill a bandit and see if you are good to go.
frostking Posted October 29, 2011 Author Posted October 29, 2011 The corrections to the load-order fixed the problem, even without the clean save. Thanks
frostking Posted October 30, 2011 Author Posted October 30, 2011 I spoke too soon. After hitting a vampire lair, I discovered that I have a 21 murder count. Deactivated everything, and started from a clean save. Also waited 3 days in my IC house, just to be sure. Same thing happened again. Oh, well. At least I know how to reset the murder count.
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