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Once I finally summon up the will to update my game, I'll definitely be giving this mod a look...Kudos to @EllaNoir for taking it on, I suspect it will generate a lot of interest if & when it develops further.

 

If it could be developed in coordination with animators & CC creators ( @Kritical  this would mostly mean you! ) that would be awesome! 

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This is so cool!
Never thought I'd see kink with something so sophisticated modded into The Sims!
Looks really exciting what already is there, definitely has huge potential!

One thing I wanted to mention @EllaNoir:
I'm really not an expert, but isn't 'domineering' normally a term a Dom/me would want to avoid being labelled as?
In discussions in certain (real life) kink scenes/communities it was always said how there's plenty of people (especially men) trying their hand at being a Dom/me, but the vast majority are just inconsiderate, selfish and 'domineering assholes'. At least that came up a lot.
As I understood it, an aspiring Dom/me should strive to be dominant, with all the perks and also responsibilities that come with that, and not end up being a 'domineering' idiot taking advantage and abusing people, thinking that's what D/s is about. 
People are people after all, but from what I heard one encounters such negative examples a lot.

But for all I know that could just be semantics that are different in each kink scene?

Like I said, not an expert, but since you mentioned correct terminology, capitalisation and such, at least I wanted to mention this.

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As far as terminology goes Domineering is one people in a D/s relationship do not use. Dominant for male or female and submissive for both as well. If they are not partners and just doing physical acts. Top and bottom. Many relationships start with D/s and if it works will work into M/s or Master/slave where protocols are used as well as titles. That being said every T/b, D/s & M/s relationship are as different as the people that are in them. I think this is a great start and has vast areas it can grow into.  I am not sure 

 

I would suggest putting your traits into an area that allows us to find them when going to the pie menu (cheat sim info) (add trait)

 

If you would like to talk more about D/s community. we will have to figure out a private way to converse. 

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On 5/23/2021 at 2:58 AM, sewersider said:

Awesome work Ellanoir, looks great!

Quick question, do the Domineering and Submissive sims need to be in the household to establish a D/s Dynamic?

 

Looking forward to giving it a go. Thanks for your hard work! 

I haven't encountered any issues with separate households, however, the skills for the Sim not in the player's household may not advance in skills as soon.

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21 hours ago, Rezet said:

I created the D/s Dynamic and the sims agreed, but I can't find the FlirtyFetishes pie menu anywhere

Hey, sorry for the delay! I needed a break haha. But are you using the latest version of the TS4?

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20 hours ago, simhead666 said:

Once I finally summon up the will to update my game, I'll definitely be giving this mod a look...Kudos to @EllaNoir for taking it on, I suspect it will generate a lot of interest if & when it develops further.

 

If it could be developed in coordination with animators & CC creators ( @Kritical  this would mostly mean you! ) that would be awesome! 

Thank you! This was something that was considered, but I've decided to learn to create my own animations and CC. Definitely something that will be done and to look forward to in the future!

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19 hours ago, Ariathos92 said:

This is so cool!
Never thought I'd see kink with something so sophisticated modded into The Sims!
Looks really exciting what already is there, definitely has huge potential!

One thing I wanted to mention @EllaNoir:
I'm really not an expert, but isn't 'domineering' normally a term a Dom/me would want to avoid being labelled as?
In discussions in certain (real life) kink scenes/communities it was always said how there's plenty of people (especially men) trying their hand at being a Dom/me, but the vast majority are just inconsiderate, selfish and 'domineering assholes'. At least that came up a lot.
As I understood it, an aspiring Dom/me should strive to be dominant, with all the perks and also responsibilities that come with that, and not end up being a 'domineering' idiot taking advantage and abusing people, thinking that's what D/s is about. 
People are people after all, but from what I heard one encounters such negative examples a lot.

But for all I know that could just be semantics that are different in each kink scene?

Like I said, not an expert, but since you mentioned correct terminology, capitalisation and such, at least I wanted to mention this.

While this may be a thing in the community in real life, I decided to add this as a CAS trait for someone who can respect the rules of BDSM, but also have the characteristics as someone Domineering. I actually had 6 traits, Domineering and Submissive included, in a poll on my Patreon, for the first traits to be added, and Domineering won by a long shot lol. So yes, in the real community, it might be. abad a thing. But in our simulated world, it can be what you want it to be ? thanks for mentioning it. Always feel free to do so!

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8 hours ago, Baer2112 said:

As far as terminology goes Domineering is one people in a D/s relationship do not use. Dominant for male or female and submissive for both as well. If they are not partners and just doing physical acts. Top and bottom. Many relationships start with D/s and if it works will work into M/s or Master/slave where protocols are used as well as titles. That being said every T/b, D/s & M/s relationship are as different as the people that are in them. I think this is a great start and has vast areas it can grow into.  I am not sure 

 

I would suggest putting your traits into an area that allows us to find them when going to the pie menu (cheat sim info) (add trait)

 

If you would like to talk more about D/s community. we will have to figure out a private way to converse. 

Thanks for the suggest! I hope you enjoy the mod. Feel free to message whenever.

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@EllaNoir,

 

Thank you for this very promising mod! 

 

I'd like to ask if you have any recommendations for Wicked Whims settings to complement / facilitate the way your mod works?  (I ask because when I first installed it and set my test couple appropriately, I then had them initiate the D/s relationship -- at which point they promptly rushed off to have sex with the newly-minted submissive taking the top role, which was rather jarring...  LOL! )

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I have no issues with the terminology, but I am troubled by the fact that none of the Dom's options are positive: lie to get attention, point out flaws, embarrass... I want to have a positive S/D relationship and while humiliation and punishments are a wanted and essential part of the scene, lying and pointing out flaws are not. These options make it seem a bit abusive. I love D/S relationships and your mod has infinite potential so I hope to see it developed further.

 

I hope I don't come off as too negative. I have wanted a mod that adds a D/S dynamic to the game pretty much ever since I came upon Wicked Whims. I thank you for this. 

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21 minutes ago, Lisette11 said:

I have no issues with the terminology, but I am troubled by the fact that none of the Dom's options are positive: lie to get attention, point out flaws, embarrass... I want to have a positive S/D relationship and while humiliation and punishments are a wanted and essential part of the scene, lying and pointing out flaws are not. These options make it seem a bit abusive. I love D/S relationships and your mod has infinite potential so I hope to see it developed further. 

I haven't gotten too far into the mod myself, but I had the same feeling about this.
The whole interaction for the Dominant being called "Manipulate", gives this a bad vibe, in my opinion.
I would recommend "train (sub)" instead. That can incorporate "manipulation", in the sense of encouraging, pushing or just telling them to do a certain thing.
That all those interactions seem to be purely negative doesn't sound too good to me either.
But it's a start! 
Don't want to be too critical, it's all coming together still.

@EllaNoir Considering how much damage "50 shades of grey" did to the reputation and overall perception of kink/BDSM, would you consider more wholesome/positive interactions for the D/s couple?
In my personal understanding it should be about nurturing and training, making the best out of each other. 
It would suck if it would appear to be all about manipulation, abuse and personal instant gratification.
But this is, like you mentioned, a simulation or imitation of life, so maybe a purely fetishized depiction might be what people want.
Just doesn't sit too well with me, seeing kink and BDSM presented from that kind of angle.

Hugely complicated and deep topic, of course. Just my feedback in line with @Lisette11

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sowwy fow my bad englisww uwu..

 

FINALLY! a good Dom/Sub mod in Sims 4. TY for took your time to make and upload this mod ❤️

 

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Are you open for any suggestions? (I don't want to sound arrogant or make any pressure. I'm just excited)

 

First one

 

So mean

Sub get flirty buffs from mean interactions, that get higher if they get used often in the conversation and don't lose romance relationship points from it. If it get spammed to much Sub get sad buffs and Dom ebrassed (depending on the level).

 

Second one

 

Good Boy/Girl

If the Sub and the Dom have maxed out Level Dom can give the order to follow. Sub will then follow the dom and only do her/his orders like: go sleep there, use this toilet use this WW Furniture/item (if its possible) and so and so.

 

Third one

 

sugar bread and whip

What is this whole S/D play without punishment?? Your Slave don't want to eat her/his healthy gluten free meal? Good ol' spanking. Your slave want to start a rebelion and pee on your 5000 Simoleons armani carpet to assert dominats. whaat??? Put her/his face in it to show who is the boss. But if she/he be a nice girl/boy, she/he can be on top or get a nice cuddle (on endless loop) on the sofa/Bed.

 

Last one

 

HATE LOVE

I always didn't like that you can't max out the love and hate relationship bar at the same time in sims 4. In connection with some buffs after mean/flirt interactions (like: I can't stand this sim but i want to kiss her/him so bad) would be f great.

 

 

Puuh, that was long.

 

Hope you like some of the suggestions and have a nice day, piece.

 

sowwy fow my bad englisww uwu..

 

 

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I'm really really excited about this mod!


But I have a problem.... 
I can create the D/S Relationship but the FlirtyFetishes pie menu doesn't show up.
I only have the base game with the latest version installed.

 

Thank you so much for share your work ❤️ 

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