3bbb cbbe how to make it bounce

[Megafartmachinery]

Hello,

 

It should be possible to make the lady NPC's walk around with bouncing bodies using the mods in the list below. I had it worked once already some year ago (?) but I cannot remember how it worked anymore. Something with the loadorder? Something else? Special configuration while installing CBBE SMP ? Who can help?

 

"0048","+","Diversity - A Character Overhaul"
"0049","+","Better Males Remesh for Skyrim SE"
"0050","+","AI Overhaul SSE"
"0051","+","BodySlide and Outfit Studio"
"0052","+","Bijin Wives SE"
"0053","+","Bijin NPCs SE"
"0054","+","Bijin Warmaidens SE"
"0055","+","Seranaholic by rxkx22 - SSE"
"0056","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-"
"0057","+","BDs Armor and Clothes Replacer CBBE 3BBB"
"0058","+","BD's Armor and Clothing Replacer - CBBE Bodyslide Conversion"
"0059","+","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions"
"0062","+","CBBE SMP (3BBB)"
"0063","+","HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)"
"0064","+","CBP Physics"
"0065","+","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE"
"0066","+","Bijin Skin for Bijin Family SE - CBBE"
"0067","+","Bijin Skin - CBBE"
"0068","+","Bijin - Your Bodyslide Mesh and Texture"
"0069","+","ApachiiSkyHair SSE"

 

 

[Just Don't]

1. That modlist has SE mods. This is not the SE section (yeah, we have those).
2. I think you want CBBE 3BA, not CBBE SMP (CBBE SMP is fine, but it only supports SMP, while CBBE 3BA supports both CBPC and SMP).
3. The way you make this work is always: following the mod instructions. If you go for CBBE 3BA you'll see it's requirements and other details (like which sets to build in BodySlide and tips for which settings to chose during the install, etc. all conveniently written in the mod description).

The most basic setup you can have is

1. CBPC
2. HDT-SMP
3. BodySlide
4. CBBE SE
5. CBBE 3BA
6. Optional: Compatible bodyslide files/presets for all the outfits you want to use.
7. XPMSSE

With that you can try different settings in the CBBE 3BA installer and as long as you build the proper sets in Bodyslide things should be smooth and bouncy.

 

[Megafartmachinery]

Well, then I won't post my questions here anymore. Me thinks I just long for an easy solution like: bounce and giggles as used in oldrim. No problem, no load order, it just bounces

Anyway thanks for the explanation. I replaced CBBE 3bbb with CBBE 3ba and I actually overlooked that in this new version you have to switch on the bounce with a spell or a hotkey for each individual NPC which I enthousiastically did already. So I had it working after all although I did not realise.

 

Question: Could it be that the position of the XPMSSE skeleton is not that important? I mean I have it above the Body mods and it just works.

[Just Don't]

39 minutes ago, Megafartmachinery said:

Question: Could it be that the position of the XPMSSE skeleton is not that important? I mean I have it above the Body mods and it just works.

The order of the list I wrote above is not a loadorder, if anything is the install order/modlist order. Loadorder has little to no impact on things like which skeleton will be used in game, because that's not a plugin conflict (esp or esm files with conflicting records), but an asset conflict (the skeleton is a .nif file defining which nodes are available to animate different actors).

39 minutes ago, Megafartmachinery said:

Well, then I won't post my questions here anymore. Me thinks I just long for an easy solution like: bounce and giggles as used in oldrim. No problem, no load order, it just bounces

The most basic basic basic basic setup would be CBBE + CBPC, then building any physic enabled body sets in Bodyslide (like the "CBBE Body Physics"). That would be comparatively to using any physic enabled body + HDT-PE. But if you're involving 3BBB and SMP there are additional steps, nothing crazy, but since you're using more mods, you need to check and configure more things.

39 minutes ago, Megafartmachinery said:

I actually overlooked that in this new version you have to switch on the bounce with a spell or a hotkey for each individual NPC which I enthousiastically did already

Now if you read the description, you'll know the spell actually enables SMP physics, by default every NPC with a valid body (any physics enabled one) should already have CBPC physics (I assume, since you have CBPC installed and during the 3BA install you surely picked the settings to also support CBPC). I recommend going back to read about 3BA and the differences between SMP and CBPC (there are some educational gifs to show the differences and features).

[Megafartmachinery]

There you say something indeed. The spell for switching between the physics makes it possible to switch between cbpc and smp. SMP works, everythings bounces wildly. cbpc on the other hand does not show any bounce at all. However: I have installed the needed mods as far as I am informed.

 

"0056","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-"
"0057","+","BDs Armor and Clothes Replacer CBBE 3BBB"
"0058","+","BD's Armor and Clothing Replacer - CBBE Bodyslide Conversion"
"0059","+","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions"
"0062","+","CBBE SMP (3BBB)" (Only this one is changed in: CBBE 3ba)
"0063","+","HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)"
"0064","+","CBP Physics"

 

So yes, although I am quite happy already, it might be a good idea to check de descriptions a bit better.

 

 

[Just Don't]

1 hour ago, Megafartmachinery said:

"0059","+","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions"
"0062","+","CBBE SMP (3BBB)" (Only this one is changed in: CBBE 3ba)
"0063","+","HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)"
"0064","+","CBP Physics

On a closer look... you have both CBP and CBPC installed? You should only need one: CBPC. I've never tried to use CBP with 3BA, it's not mentioned in the required/supported mods, only CBPC. Remove CBP Physics and try again.

[Megafartmachinery]

Think that'll be CBP physics then. Although I understood that one is specifically for the player. Will check soon and come back here then.

 

[Megafartmachinery]

Update: removing cbp physics made the nude bodies bounce again I guess. Strange thing: also after I removed it, I could use the "Show me" spell from animated prostitution again.

But.... I wanted to test so I switch on cpb physics again. I still could use the spell (???)

Anyway: load order seems important. CBPC - CBP physics / collisions needs to be above CBBE 3ba.

 

Both cbpc and smp works. You hardly see any difference but SMP has the more soft shaky bounce.

 

No when I have the time I see if I can do something about the difference between the Nude bodies and the bodies wearing sexy armor. I want the same curvy bottoms and all naked as well. But that is something for another topic later. And the wrist seam in some custom NPC from mods is also for later.

[Just Don't]

CBP is not for the player. CBP was the first iteration, CBPC added collisions to CBP and effectively replaced it, there is no need to use both (you actually can't as they conflict and only one will be in use at a time). Stick to CBPC.

 

1 hour ago, Megafartmachinery said:

Anyway: load order seems important. CBPC - CBP physics / collisions needs to be above CBBE 3ba.

That's because CBBE 3BA can add tweaked config files for CBPC, so by placing CBPC before CBBE 3BA you're forcing the game to use the config files from 3BA instead of the default ones from CBPC. And again, this is not loadorder related (CBPC or HDT-SMP don't even appear in your loadorder because they don't use plugin or master files at all), it's all about the order in which you add the assets to the game (or your mod manager if you're using MO2/Vortex).

[Megafartmachinery]

Then the bodies are configured the way I want it. Load order issue or not (as you say it is not) I leave things the way they are now. So conclusion: the removal of CPB physics did the trick.  (Will study things a bit more when life allows it. All the abbreviations (3bbb, cbbe, cbpc, cbp, etc etc etc) can drive someone quite nuts at times ;)) For now I thank you for your advices !!