Annoying Issue related to Workbench animations.

[smolder]

Thanks to something Bethesda fucked up while "fixing" other things, my game is now forcing me to exit the menus of Workbenches, Enchanting Tables and everything else that requires an animation.

It was working all fine and dandy before I started the "Eye Of Magnus" quest, I could disenchant things, make potions and improve weapons, but now when I go to enchant something it shows my character leaving the table only seconds after finishing the animation.

It won't even prompt me for an exit, it just fucking quits like that.
Now thanks to this Elder Scrolls Online shit, they've quit fixing the millions of bugs in Skyrim, why? Because they can't be bothered doing so.

I've looked around for hours and none of the proposed fixes work. I'm not re-installing my game because I would hit the 100 Milestone for doing so.
I'm not deleting my save because this has to be my 999th new character I only just made a few hours ago.

It'd be nice if Bethesda actually did something about this shit before dropping everything.
I was selected for beta-testing the Elder Scrolls Online and it's complete shit. I won't be playing it ever again.

Does anybody know of a fix that doesn't require me deleting anything or re-installing the game?


TL;DR
Workbenches are fucked fix pls

[Cyndi]

Step 1 ~ diazepam ~ I know it's frustrating, but a super negative post is more likely to get people to pass the thread in silence, rather than try to help, and possibly be subjected to said negativity themselves.  No offense, ijs.

 

Step 2 ~ Post up your load order and papyrus log, (with spoiler tags though preferably please).  There are a few regulars here, that are quite good at spotting issues from either thing.

 

Possibly 3 ~ Also, might be good to know the fixes you have tried already, so we don't end up suggesting redundant stuff, and ergo narrow down a fix that much sooner.

[smolder]

Here's my current load order.

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
MagicDuelReborn.esm
MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
Cartographers Map Markers.esp
faster vanilla horses.esp
The Dance of Death.esp

I don't play with many mods because it bogs down my game and makes it more painful to fix.
I don't see how any of the current mods are causing problems, though.

As for fixes, I've tried save cleaning with TES5Edit but that didn't help.
As for other fixes I've seen from people, I've tried Shouting, interupting NPCs using the workbench, sneaking and using weapons but none of these did anything.
I'm starting to think it can't be fixed, and I'm going to have to start again. Again.

[Cyndi]

~ Edit:  Try what pds123 said first (post right below this one), I didn't know about the unofficial patch thing, I don't use them =O ~

Since you might end up trying a few things, I would recommend opening up  blahblah > skyrim > data > video  and moving the .bik file somewhere else. I forget the full file name,  but it should be the only one in there.  This should keep the intro from playing, and save a little on patience. 

 

~Check if "Dance of Death" is updated.  Lots of people report getting that bug, with that mod (might not be directly that mods fault, but if it's glitching for you then needs must....).

~Also try uninstalling that mod, and see if that fixes it. You may need a new save regardless though, with all the scripts in the mod.

~Same with thing with Magic Duel actually...

~Check your skse too, as well as launching the game with skse, and without skse.

 

I can't really see it being a load order problem, but give BOSS a run anyway.  (Search it on Nexus if you don't know where to get it).

Do the verify game cache, thing.  Even with the re-installs you did, something could have screwed up.

 

Other things worth trying,

 

~I read in a few places, that you can sometimes trick your save into working again with benches.  What you do, is load a save or new game where the benches work, use one. Now don't save, but directly load the save where using the benches is pooched',  Try a bench.  

Idk why, but some have said this worked for them.

 

~Open the console  (The ~ key, just incase you didn't know, or someone else with the problem reads this)

Type in "tai"  without the " marks.

You should see a message pop up with "all ai processing turned off",  Try a bench, the bench should do nothing, this is normal, you just turned the ai off.

IF  the benches suddenly start working, after that, then you already had the ai off, and that was the problem (I kinda doubt it was this though, but you never know).

Do the same thing again.

This time the message should say "all ai processing turned on"

Now try a bench again.

 

~Same as above, but click on yourself first. (3rd person is probably easier to do that with) Top middle of the console bar should  say 0000000014  + or - a few 0's

 

~Try installing fnis.  Not the whole bunch of stuff for it, just the main part (unless you want the rest of the mod of course).  Then follow the fnis instructions, generate fnis etc.

Now this might seem redundant, but if the animations themselves are causing the problem, patching animations with fnis might fix it.

 

~Last but not least, Try a new game, with no active mods.  Do the workbenches work?  Yes = mod problem for sure, you have something that didn't install correctly or dated versions of ~something~  If NO,  then your install itself is probably glitched, if verifying with steam doesn't fix it.... well you get the idea.

[pds123]

If that's your load order then it's screwed from the start. uskp should be after update and before any other mods that aren't esms.

Do you have skse installed as that's required for at least skyui?

Tesv edit isn't for cleaning saves it's for cleaning conflicts between mod files themselves.

 

Unfortunately skyrim isn't very user friendly for mod users and I'm thinking you're lacking basic understanding of the mod instalation process. 

Instead of spending hours looking for fixes, take sometime to learn how to use wrye bash, tesv edit and BOSS or even just nmm if you're starting out as they are a lot simpler to use than you might think.

Boss is designed to take most of the guess work out of the load order for you.

 

Just at a glance I'd suggest :

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
MagicDuelReborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp

The Dance of Death.esp
SkyUI.esp
Cartographers Map Markers.esp
faster vanilla horses.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

That's assuming you have skse installed and the correct versions of all the above mods.

 

For a quick fix try bringing up console and typing "enableplayercontrols" without quotes when stuck to a table but ymmv is you haven't done things correctly in the first place.

 

99% of mod problems are user error

[smolder]

I've tried all of your suggestions, and it's still persisting.
Other saves work, but not my mage I poured hours into.
I think I'll just quit Skyrim instead of installing it for the 101st time.

[Deep Red]

I've also recently developed this problem. At first I thought it was a problem with the custom race I was using, but after reverting to an earlier save I found out that wasn't the case. We share the similarity in which we both use Magic Duel Reborn mod, SkyUI, UFO, and Dance of Death.

[pds123]

You sat down learned how to use wyre, boss, tesv edit and then reinstalled skyrim from scratch with correct cleaning, merging and load order?

 

There's no magic bullet. If you can take the time to "pour hours in to a mage character" then come to a forum and whine about bethesda breaking your game but can't take the time to learn how to use the correct tools then you deserve to lose your save.

 

TL;DR

man the fuck up

[smolder]

You sat down learned how to use wyre, boss, tesv edit and then reinstalled skyrim from scratch with correct cleaning, merging and load order?

 

There's no magic bullet. If you can take the time to "pour hours in to a mage character" then come to a forum and whine about bethesda breaking your game but can't take the time to learn how to use the correct tools then you deserve to lose your save.

 

TL;DR

man the fuck up

Mate, I make mods myself, and I know how to Wyre, Boss and Tes5Edit.

I am just sick of doing the same process over and over again.

I'm not joking, it's really the 100th time I've re-installed Skyrim..

 

I've fixed this before, but the method I used last time isn't working for this one.

 

And after a hundred times of Re-Installing, save cleaning and figuring out which mods are bad to others, you'd be a little impatient too, wouldn't you?

[pds123]

The difference is I don't go making a whiny attention seeking post on a forum giving little to no detail about my problem.

You say you know how to use these programs yet you post a completely screwy load order and keep talking about save cleaning. You can't clean saves in skyrim, that's like the first thing anyone learns if they google anything to do with modding.
I'm sick of reading these posts everywhere I go when the majority of the time it's just plain user error and lack of effort on the part of the poster.
If you have a problem make an intelligent post with as much detail as possible. No one can help if it sounds like you threw a few random mods in your data folder in a random order and then kicked off about the game being shit. 

 

[smolder]

You can't clean saves in skyrim, that's like the first thing anyone learns if they google anything to do with modding.

You Can clean saves.

But it doesn't matter now, because I've fixed it. By CLEANING the save.

Want to know how? Use Google, it's the first thing anyone does if they want to clean their save.

[pds123]

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/456679-unofficial-skyrim-patch/page-186&do=findComment&comment=7404761

[smolder]

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/456679-unofficial-skyrim-patch/page-186&do=findComment&comment=7404761

Perhaps you didn't know that hex-editing a save can remove the rouge scripts, and that you can restore changed data the same way?

Try it sometime or maybe use Google to learn how to hex-edit files.

If you couldn't clean saves, I wouldn't be playing Skyrim right now.

[pds123]

Yes I did but it's extremely hit and miss and will potentially cause more problems in the long run as is discussed at length in the savecleaner thread and several of the skse/uskp threads.

I'm glad your game is working and you've got the attention you required.

I hope no one reads this back looking for tips on problem solving and basic forum ettiquette.

[Fotogen]

I had this problem once.

 

First tought it was one of early versions of AP. Was not. And the end I found out I had hidden bounty (a couple of septims) and guard wanted to talk to me. Just that there was no guard near. And when I talked to one of guards (to pay out bounty) he only said 'he knows me".

 

Had to use console to remove that hidden bounty.

 

[lordofthedread]

I had the same problem and I fixed it by using an earlier save.

[Guest SemiPr0]

Hi your problem is Magic Duel Reborn. I have the mod and have identified it as the cause of this issue.

 

The essential problem is that it enacts a quest scene during the duel, but if the duel never triggers (which happens often), or if the enemy just falls down and dies without the duel triggering (happens about 25% of the time), then you end up with the quest scene just continuing to cycle in your save. This continually forces you off animation nodes because according to the game you're already animating.

 

Its helpful to notice that this only applies to stock animation systems that force a "fake sit" animation during interaction, so the workbench, the grind stone, the alchemy and enchanting stations are all affected by this. Cooking pots, Smelters and the large forge do not seem to be though.

 

Far as I know Seb263 has been trying to fix this issue and has released two unofficial test updates to try to see if they've found a fix, but it continues to occur even in my game where I'm using the 1.0.2 test version. I hope that Seb263 eventually gets this smoothed out because MDR is a really nice mod that makes magic really worth using in Skyrim...but, for now, the only way around the problem is to uninstall MDR entirely....reload your save, save the game without MDR running, then reinstall MDR and reset all its options and hope the bug doesn't happen again.....which unfortunately, at this point in the mod's development, the bug will definitely happen again, its simply a matter of time.

[lordofthedread]

Never had this problem with the old Magic Duel mod.....

[Guest SemiPr0]

Never had this problem with the old Magic Duel mod.....

 

Yeah the old version didn't cause this problem but the Reborn version does. Hopefully Seb263 can fix it cause I really like MD/MDR.