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Posted

Not sure if it's the right place to request support on this part of the game, but considering I'm running mods from LoversLab, I've decided to ask here.

 

My problem is - I can't start dawnguard dlc.

Before asking I've been searching for similar topics on internet and none was representing my case exactly.

 

I have Steam version of the game.

I can access the cave leading to Dawnguard fort and start quest there

My .esm or .esp is active.

 

However, not on level 10 nor beyond, Durak EVER approaches me.

Guards of the cities mention anything BUT Dawnguard, so I can't start quest through them.

 

To summarize, I technically can start Dawnguard, but I can't start it "properly".

 

Hope someone could advise me possible solution.

 

EDIT: Adding mod load order.

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  7  7     hdtHighHeel.esm
  8  8     Heels Sound.esm
  9  9     SexLab.esm
 10  a     SexLabAroused.esm
 11  b     CreatureFramework.esm
 12  c     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
254 FE   0 DF_T19.esl
 13  d     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 14  e     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 17 11     paradise_halls.esm
 18 12     SkyUI_SE.esp
 19 13     Joy of Perspective.esp
 20 14     FNIS.esp
 21 15     RaceMenu.esp
 22 16     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 23 17     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 24 18     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 25 19     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 26 1a     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 27 1b     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 28 1c     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 29 1d     XPMSE.esp
 30 1e     FNISSexyMove.esp
 31 1f     CBBE.esp
254 FE   1 KSHairdosSMP.esp
254 FE   2 KSWigsSMP.esp
 32 20     RaceMenuHH.esp
 33 21     Highheels.esp
 34 22     WT Tribal Clothe.esp
 35 23     ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp
 36 24     [SunJeong] Ananta.esp
254 FE   3 Lich King's Armor.esp
 37 25     SLSO.esp
 38 26     SexLabDefeat.esp
 39 27     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 40 28     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 41 29     SLAnimLoader.esp
 42 2a     OneWithNature.esp
 43 2b     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 44 2c     Namira'sGoat.esp
 45 2d     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
254 FE   4 Namiras Skyrim - bodyparts.esp
254 FE   5 Namiras Decorations.esp
 46 2e     SexLab More Creatures.esp
 47 2f     HornyCreatures.esp
 48 30     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 49 31     SLALAnimObj.esp
 50 32     HDT Piercingsets.esp
 51 33     UIExtensions.esp
 52 34     DF_T19.esp
 53 35     KCsSkellingtonBikini.esp
 54 36     sl_triggers.esp
254 FE   6 SLTriggersCumEffects.esp
 55 37     SLACS.esp
 56 38     GPPoses.esp
 57 39     Better Vampires.esp
 58 3a     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 59 3b     TempleOfMolagBal.esp
 60 3c     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
 61 3d     PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
 62 3e     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 63 3f     SOS - Shop.esp
 64 40     FNISspells.esp
 65 41     Sexual Vampire Feed.esp
 66 42     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
 67 43     SLDragons.esp
254 FE   7 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
 68 44     Devious Devices For Him.esp
254 FE   8 Devious Devices SE patch.esp
 69 45     My Home Is Your Home.esp
 70 46     My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp
 71 47     pahe-tdf-patch.esp
 72 48     Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp
 73 49     pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
 74 4a     paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
 75 4b     SerialStrip.esp
254 FE   9 SerialStripper.esp
 76 4c     AutoHideAmmo.esp
 77 4d     SOS - Leito Addon SE.esp
 78 4e     PamaFurnitureScr.esp
 79 4f     SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
 80 50     sr_FillHerUp.esp
254 FE   a BakaFactoryABC.esp
 81 51     IdlePlayWheelMenu.esp
 82 52     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 83 53     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

 

UPDATE:

For anyone who's reading this after encountering similar problem, I have good new for you!

Problem with quest trigger has been solved with introduction of an *alternative* trigger in form of this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23617?tab=description

Fortunately, I haven't yet discovered Hall of the Vigilant on my latest save, so right upon arrival to Downstar after visiting HotV I was greeted by.. (you've guessed it) Durak!

But even if you already have discovered HotV, it still wouldn't hurt to try this fix. Good luck!

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Just Don't said:

Several mods change the level required to start that quest. This is likely your case, so check your mods and find which one is doing it.

One that comes to mind is "Better Vampires" - does it change the level requirement?

All other mods are SL related, mostly.

 

Edit: Also running Unofficial SSE patch, if that changes anything.

Posted

The ones I can remember are Requiem and Timing is Everything. If you're using the later you can adjust the level in its MCM. I can't remember others, but this is a relatively common change for mods that adjust difficulty, alter vampires, quest and so on. So you should a) post a loadorder for others to see or b) check that yourself.

Posted
35 minutes ago, Just Don't said:

The ones I can remember are Requiem and Timing is Everything. If you're using the later you can adjust the level in its MCM. I can't remember others, but this is a relatively common change for mods that adjust difficulty, alter vampires, quest and so on. So you should a) post a loadorder for others to see or b) check that yourself.

None of the above in use.

Right, should have done it from the start. I'll update original post and add mod list.

Posted

I don't recognize any plugin that could be doing that in your loadorder. You can check the record to see if any mod is changing it in xEdit/zEdit. Launch your chosen editor with your entire loadorder enabled, go to Dawnguard.esm, expand "Global" and find the "DLC1VQMinLevel" record, check what value has.

 

Example in zEdit: I'm using a mod to change the starting level to 25, you can see the vanilla "FLTV value" of 10 for Dawnguard.esm and the same value of 25 for the mod plugin, so if I were to play with these record changes I would need to be level 25 in order to trigger the Dawnguard quest.

image.png.fd17ed13339223c988f3d442a60a8f44.png

 

If you don't find any mods changing that record you won't see anything besides Dawnguard.esm for this record (for example that dawnguardlevel25.esp wouldn't be there if it didn't contain that record). So if you still can't find a mod editing this record I'm out of clues. Perhaps there is another way of disabling/affecting this quest start, or it's some other error that is preventing this quest from starting even when you meet the required level.

Posted
2 hours ago, Just Don't said:

I don't recognize any plugin that could be doing that in your loadorder. You can check the record to see if any mod is changing it in xEdit/zEdit. Launch your chosen editor with your entire loadorder enabled, go to Dawnguard.esm, expand "Global" and find the "DLC1VQMinLevel" record, check what value has.

 

Example in zEdit: I'm using a mod to change the starting level to 25, you can see the vanilla "FLTV value" of 10 for Dawnguard.esm and the same value of 25 for the mod plugin, so if I were to play with these record changes I would need to be level 25 in order to trigger the Dawnguard quest.

image.png.fd17ed13339223c988f3d442a60a8f44.png

 

If you don't find any mods changing that record you won't see anything besides Dawnguard.esm for this record (for example that dawnguardlevel25.esp wouldn't be there if it didn't contain that record). So if you still can't find a mod editing this record I'm out of clues. Perhaps there is another way of disabling/affecting this quest start, or it's some other error that is preventing this quest from starting even when you meet the required level.

 

So, as I understand it means "Level 10". I'm confused.

VQMinLevel.png

Posted

Yep, no other mod is changing that record. And as I said, at this point is not what I thought, so no idea how to procede really. You could try in a new game with the same loadorder, level up with console commands (ex. player.setlevel 10) and go to a major city to see if the orc from DG or the guards/innkeepers have the dialogue to start the quest. If not I would try the same with no mods, and then with a few mods active at a time.

Posted
1 hour ago, Just Don't said:

Yep, no other mod is changing that record. And as I said, at this point is not what I thought, so idea how to procede really. You could try in a new game with the same loadorder, level up with console commands (ex. player.setlevel 10) and go to a major city to see if the orc from DG or the guards/innkeepers have the dialogue to start the quest. If not I would try the same with no mods, and then with a few mods active at a time.

I've been waiting on my female character at level around 20-30 with no luck. Started male nord just recently with aim to start Dawnguard properly, and has been on my toes right after I hit level 10 in Whiterun - waiting, entering/exiting buildings, keeping my eye on that npc, speaking with guards.
Only option for me - experiment with unmodded game. And to be honest, not in the mood for that.

Will have to start DLC by traveling right to it's location, however immersion breaking that might be.

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