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[WIP/ALPHA] Dead Money Holo Hore (NEED HELP)


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  1. 1. What should I do with the HoloHore Tech?

    • Put it in the Abandoned BOS bunker/Lucky 38 as a simple quest reward for finishing Dead Money
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    • Same as #1, but portable (harder to implement)
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    • Quest to sell it to casinos (See topic)
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  2. 2. Old World Blues Version... Which personality should it be an addon to?

    • Light Switch #1 (The intelligent one)
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    • Light Switch #2 ( The seductive one)
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    • The Sink Central Intelligence Unit
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    • Other (Explain who and why)
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    • Choice between them.
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    • Stand-Alone
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Basic idea:
 
- Holo-hores: Basically the idea of interactive holograms taken to extremes. I figure if holograms can have colision physics and can interact with objects/people in a tacticle way, why could they not also be programed to basically be prositutes too?
 
Basically, all the pleasure of a real whor with the class and appearance of a top-rate old-world starlot, only without all the nasty enslavement/exploitation issues (like at the grammora) and without having to worry about those nasty side effects (holograms can't get you pregnent or give stds.)
 
Of course, this opens the door for a few other interesting scenarios as well. Why simply stop at HUMAN  holo-hores? After all, there's surely a market for those females/gay guys who have always fantasied or at least have always been curious about having sex with a pooch/deathclaw/gecko/whatever but have always been scared to try (due to reasons of being mauled or the fustration of having to train them in such).
 
Or if you're the voyeur type, you can issue a little pornographic show on the cheap.
 
So basically, you enter into a terminal thing, where you select who or what is doing the dominating (User, Follower, Human Hologram, or a creature), who is doing the receiving (User, follower, Human Hologram.) Select a third person (if appicable) (Follower or Human Hologram), select a position/sex type, and then hit "Begin sim" to start the sex.
 
Given Sexout's limitations, Only a few combinations are acceptable:
 
- User -> Human Hologram
- Follower -> Human Hologram
- Human Hologram -> User/follower
- Creature Hologram -> User/follower
- Human Hologram -> User -> Follower
- Human Hologram -> Follower -> User
- Human Hologram -> Human Hologram -> User/Follower
- Human Hologram -> User/follower -> Human Hologram
- User/Follower -> Human Hologram -> Human Holgram
- User/Follower -> Human Hologram -> Follower/User.
 
Example: You cannot have Creature as recieving, you cannot have User as dominating and Follower as receiving (or vice versa.) as it will tell you "please set user or follower as third person, or use auditory dialogue with follower to accomplish desired result."
 
 
 
IMPLEMENTATION:
 
I had two three ideas that you could use to implement this.
 
1: Personalized Deadmoney Reward: After dead money you'll find a portable emitter in the Abandoned Brotherhood of Steel outpost. You grab it, set it down somewhere activate it, and get the options above.
 
2: Run-Your-Own-Brothel idea: if anyone makes a run-your-own-brothel idea (or as an addon to a run-your-own-casino mod such as Run the Lucky 38 or Bison Steve, you could add this as an option to replace/add onto the human prostitutes with this if you've done dead money and/or grabbed the emitter from Big Mountain.
 
2.a: Sell the Technology to an existing casino: Instead of starting your own, you could instead sell it to an existing casino. Might be easier to implement. 
Basically, you sell it to a casino, you get some caps off the bat (And some rep) and once per week you can also get paid for royalties. On top of this you will be allowed ot use the machines for free.
You could sell it to one of 4 Casinos:
 
Vikki and Vance: Will refuse since they don't have any beds and decent folk like that don't really want any part of it. If you haven't been to nipton yet they'll say "we just send those types of folks up to nipton. Let them deal with that." if you have, they'll say "And what, wind up like Nipton? No thank you."
 
Atomic Wrangler: Will happily accept the technology, stating that this will give them a much-needed edge over the Gomorrah while still keeping true to their original claim that "their escorts aren't slaves" (after all you can't enslave a machine.)
 - You'll get freeside rep and slight good karma, but you'll also get the least amount of caps and royalties. On top of this, the male and female versions of the holos look like wasteland cowboys instead of dean domino and Vera Keys.
 
Tops: Is a little hesitant, but acknowleges that everyone's got their own kink, dig. Plus it helps them avoid that whole prostituion mess like those dirty omertas. You'll get some strip rep. Tops offers a higher amount of initial caps than the Gommorah, but lower royalties. Also, as an extra bonus, the Male Hologram will look like Benny instead of Dean Domino.
 
Gommorah: Will remark that they were actually thinking about getting some actual creatures for just this purpose, but this is just a much better idea. Get some Strip Rep. You'll get some lower initial caps, but higher royalties. However, this also comes with a bit of bad karma. As a bonus, in the lowest part of the grommorah you can also see clients interacting with these versions. (The only Casino where you can actually see this happening)
 
Ultraluxe: Will hardly go for it at first, but will acknowlege that this has been a rather highly requested feature that they've always had to turn down because "its very messy and uncooth." Get some Strip Rep. Highest Caps and Royalties. However, unless you completed beyond the beef (regardless of outcome.) It will occasionally come with a "glitch" that will cause the holo to attack you, your only recourse is to pick the lock or shut it off via the terminal. When confronted about it they'll say they'll try to fix it but they won't untill you complete beyond the beef (if you complete it in mortimer's favor he'll explain the glitch is intentional since it helps gather subjects for their banquets, but he'll fix the glitch so it shouldn't affect you anymore. If you've foiled his plan they'll explain that after looking into mortimer's things they've found that the holo hore units were sabotaged by Mortimer to further his agenda, and that the "glitch" has been patched up.)
 
3: This involves the lightswitches and/or sink central unit in OWB. Though I'll be putting that in its own thread since it's not Dead Money related but does run off the same general idea.
 
 
 
Basically, I need help coding this thing. I can make all the NPCs I can make the terminal options plus I've figured out a working holographic system, but I can't really code this, and I would need help with that. Any takers?
 
 
Right now:
 

Okay so I almost have it down now, I have a (mostly) working test version made, but I need help with a few niggling little details with scripting that are beyond my comprehension.

  • When the holograms are done screwing, how do I check for that (so that they can be sent back to their holding cell.) And please don't just say "use a callback", since I don't know HOW to implement it. You need to tell me exactly how to do that.)
     
  • also a way to make the holograms have no reaction to combat whatsoever. without using setghost or invincible (because it screws up sexout stuff) 
     
  • Also, a way to make them appear a little ways behind the player rather than right on top of them?
     
  • way to optimize the script in general?
     
  • how to force terminal exit when the start option is pressed?

 

I have attached the file in question. You will find the Terminal in Victor's Shack (temporary test location). I'm still not sure what exactly I'll do with it after this (had intented it to go in the abandoned Brotherhood bunker, but I'd had other ideas for it as well. again, not something I'd know how to script, but let's worry about crossing that bridge when we get to it eh?) that can be used to test pretty much all the conditions.

 

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

We can of course help you with the coding, especially if the issues are specific enough (code is either outrageously specific or leaves important issues up to the player's imagination instead of being implemented in the code).

 

But we would need to understand what you are struggling with.

 

Most of of your work sounds like dialog topics (with filter options so they are available only when they are supposed to be available).

 

You perhaps also need some coding to activate/deactivate the hologram system in various places.

 

Does that sound right? If so, when you have the pieces in place, that would allow code testing, where do you want to start?

Posted

Truth is I kinda lost some of my recent work on this due to a BAIN accident, so now all I have of it is an older version so I'll have to get it back to the point to where I was before. However what I'd like to do with it is this:

 

Basically, no dialogues (except the whole "sell to casinos" idea). I'd like it to be completely accessed and controlled from a terminal. (said terminal could be either portable or placed in whatever hotel you sell it to). Basically it would look like this.

 

 

- Select Giver: 
​     - Player (Return to menu)

     - Follower

          - (List of Followers in the room)

     - Human Hologram Male (Return to menu)

     - Human Hologram Female (will have strappon) (return to menu)

     - Creature Hologram 

​          - (Large list of creatures)

 

- Select Receiver:  

​     - Player (Can't select if player or follower was selected for previous option.)

     - Follower  (Ditto.)

          - (List of Followers in the room)

     - Human Hologram Male (Return to menu)

     - Human Hologram Female (will have strappon) (return to menu)


 

- Select Third Wheel:  (Won't be available if person selected "Creature" for Giver. Also can't select if a position is already selected.)

​     - Player (Can't select if player was selected for previous options.)

     - Follower  (Ditto.)

          - (List of Followers in the room)

     - Human Hologram Male (Return to menu)

     - Human Hologram Female (will have strappon) (return to menu)

 

 

- Select Position:

   - List of Positions

 

- Start Sexual Stimulation Simulation! (Will not be available until all options are set correctly.)

 

 

If you exit the console without starting the sim, all options will be reset.

 

Once you hit the SSSS button, it'll summon all the necessary holograms, and start the sex.

 

 

I'm not that great of a coder though. I can get the Refs, the Terminal options, etc all set up, but I can't really code it with a crap.

 

I'll see about getting the ESP and files up for it later today.

Posted

now we just need an android and we'll have both Cortana fans (lol, holo hore reminds me of Cortana) and android fans happy..

 

cant wait to see what comes of this mod.

Posted

Okay... so far:

 

All the Holograms are created, as are the variables (But not the scripts themselves save for the holo effect refreshing. Had to insert that in due to the bug that had them lose it when you saved and loaded a game in their presence.) Haven't gotten to the terminals or removed the dialogues yet (I was going to have them use dialogues in a very very early version but decided against it.)

 

 

Sexout Deadmoney.zip

Posted

Truth is I kinda lost some of my recent work on this due to a BAIN accident, so now all I have of it is an older version so I'll have to get it back to the point to where I was before. However what I'd like to do with it is this:

 

Basically, no dialogues (except the whole "sell to casinos" idea). I'd like it to be completely accessed and controlled from a terminal. (said terminal could be either portable or placed in whatever hotel you sell it to). Basically it would look like this.

 

 

- Select Giver: 

​     - Player (Return to menu)

     - Follower

          - (List of Followers in the room)

     - Human Hologram Male (Return to menu)

     - Human Hologram Female (will have strappon) (return to menu)

     - Creature Hologram 

​          - (Large list of creatures)

 

- Select Receiver:  

​     - Player (Can't select if player or follower was selected for previous option.)

     - Follower  (Ditto.)

          - (List of Followers in the room)

     - Human Hologram Male (Return to menu)

     - Human Hologram Female (will have strappon) (return to menu)

 

- Select Third Wheel:  (Won't be available if person selected "Creature" for Giver. Also can't select if a position is already selected.)

​     - Player (Can't select if player was selected for previous options.)

     - Follower  (Ditto.)

          - (List of Followers in the room)

     - Human Hologram Male (Return to menu)

     - Human Hologram Female (will have strappon) (return to menu)

 

 

- Select Position:

   - List of Positions

 

- Start Sexual Stimulation Simulation! (Will not be available until all options are set correctly.)

 

 

If you exit the console without starting the sim, all options will be reset.

 

Once you hit the SSSS button, it'll summon all the necessary holograms, and start the sex.

 

 

I'm not that great of a coder though. I can get the Refs, the Terminal options, etc all set up, but I can't really code it with a crap.

 

I'll see about getting the ESP and files up for it later today.

 

This outline you have here does not look like code, to me - it looks like dialog.

 

Note that when you make dialog you do not modify existing dialog topics - you have to add new ones. If you change existing dialog topics you are trashing whatever you are starting from.

 

Does my short bit of advice here help you any? Or are there other complications?

Posted

Seems as if I am the only one that voted. :(

 

For the other... how about that robot that is insane for coffee cups? Have to come up with finding 100 cups and he lets you know where you can find the device/ or gives it to you.You can find it during your travels in OLB if you search and bypass the crazy robot. You made him happy so he well... will try to make you happy.

 

You can also place it in the Lucky 38 as an "entertainment" module for a reward for helping House. (yes man will give it to you as well) This could cover those that don't want to play or don't have OLB.

 

I would advise to keep it simple. It can then be easier to implement and get going. You can always add to it later after the most basic functionality has been proven. Then also others might want to add modules to your mod or contribute directly to it helping you achieve your higher or more difficult to implement ideas.

 

 

Posted

 

Seems as if I am the only one that voted. :(

Because I started the poll not two hours ago  :P

 

 

What!!!.... :s No response in over two hours except from me!!! That is insane. :D

 

I realized that it was posted a short time before. Just wanted to ..nudge others into voting... :angel:

  • 3 months later...
Posted

And what if we don't have Dead Money?

Hologram technology only appears in Dead Money and OWB, so beyond those two it doesn't make much sense to implement it elsewhere.

 

Although seeing how old FONV is, i'm surprised there are people don't have Dead Money.

Posted

Sadly I kinda stopped working on it, having no way to proceed.

It's up for grabs if anyone else wants it. 

I might come back to it if I come back to Fallout NV, but don't count on it.

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