How do sliders work?

[Ahmy]

Hey there

 

I have question regarding sliders, as far as i know two sliders for the same part would conflict, is that right?

 

If so then what can I do when i used other people created sims that includes a certain slider they used to create their sims? do i have to delete their sliders? so there is no way to have their sims the same way they created it?

[Dorabella]

16 minutes ago, Ahmy said:

If so then what can I do when i used other people created sims that includes a certain slider they used to create their sims? do i have to delete their sliders? so there is no way to have their sims the same way they created it?

In my memory (I haven't used Sims for a long time), in order to use sims created by others, you should also have Custom Content( Typically dropped in a folder with the Sim's name ) which are generally released. Otherwise, you will end up with an incomplete Sim and, you will have to go mad to get the CCs that have been used

[Ahmy]

8 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said:

In my memory (I haven't used Sims for a long time), in order to use sims created by others, you should also have Custom Content( Typically dropped in a folder with the Sim's name ) which are generally released. Otherwise, you will end up with an incomplete Sim and, you will have to go mad to get the CCs that have been used

Yeah I know, the thing is the Sims character I download, either comes with a folder contain all the used mods (makeup skin clothes sliders and so)

or the creator give links to the used mods (so I download them) so my sims the same as the creator

 

but the thing is that many of these sims uses the similar packages so I delete the duplicate as I think it doesn't need to be in the same folder the character in (as the character is a tray file)

 

so back again to the sliders, when I have multi copies of them from different characters I only keep one copy, but in some cases I would end up with two different sliders that effects lets say lips, so I believe they would conflict with each other and I can only use one?

[Scorpio]

2 hours ago, Ahmy said:

so I believe they would conflict with each other and I can only use one?

That is correct, and more of a problem with facial sliders for lips/mouth and eyes/eyebrows using the same slots but are made by different authors.

 

Had a hard time finding out why my females sims were spawning with an invisible top half of the body.

Even had 2 different versions by the same author, one was an all-in-one version and one was just for eyebrows or mouth I think.

Went through my sliders and cleaned out some that were using the same areas and it was fixed.

(I'm really careful now when I DL custom sims with mods included because you can also get normal duplicates too like hairstyles, makeup, and clothing) 

(Keep in mind the latest game patch has also broken a few sliders)

 

It happens quite easily when downloading custom sims as each author will have their own favorites they use.  

[Ahmy]

5 hours ago, Scorpio said:

That is correct, and more of a problem with facial sliders for lips/mouth and eyes/eyebrows using the same slots but are made by different authors.

 

Had a hard time finding out why my females sims were spawning with an invisible top half of the body.

Even had 2 different versions by the same author, one was an all-in-one version and one was just for eyebrows or mouth I think.

Went through my sliders and cleaned out some that were using the same areas and it was fixed.

(I'm really careful now when I DL custom sims with mods included because you can also get normal duplicates too like hairstyles, makeup, and clothing) 

(Keep in mind the latest game patch has also broken a few sliders)

 

It happens quite easily when downloading custom sims as each author will have their own favorites they use.  

Thanks again Scorpio for helping me out

 

I wouldn't say I have the problem of invisible top right now, But I have the problem of some outfits that are invisible or shows white and red color with question mark

some of these outfit requited certain packs, so they were fixed after buying the pack, but some of them requires no pack so i think its a conflict with something.

 

Right now I am using Sim 4 Mod assistant, so I search for copies every now and then, and I delete the copies leaving one copy of any mod.

This program has an option to show a possible conflict, but this need an expierence to know if it really does and if  I need to remove any.

 

As example ^ I am using penis/tongue rig which suppose to work with WW, but I also have the no EE eye lash, and the program says it conflicts.

From my searches I knew that WW includes a head replacer, but I saw someone comment about putting the EE eye lash in WW folder and it will work.

so its getting confusing how to deal with possible conflict.

 

About the recent patch, I didn't really test the game but from checking some thread here and there I noticed people commenting about some problems with the mods I was checking.

and I really hate how companies force updates on players (same was in skyrim every update I have to update my mods and so), I am not sure if sims has a way to stop any update or to backup the exe as example and just replace the update.

 

So from what I understood I don't have the ability to have different characters bodies unless they were using a body preset rather than slider? (because in skyrim when someone upload a followe they can have their own body so you can easily have varity of bodies in your game), the good thing not many people use different sliders, but still some of them do.

 

Thanks for your comment and have a good day, I will most likely hold on my modding till some updates comes to deal with the current update even tho I don't notice a problem yet, but my game is still not close to how I want it to look, so an upcoming problem is bound to come!

[Scorpio]

1 hour ago, Ahmy said:

As example ^ I am using penis/tongue rig which suppose to work with WW, but I also have the no EE eye lash, and the program says it conflicts.

You don't need any penis/tongue rigs because WW has it's own built in now.

In fact they are more likely to cause problems than not.

 

I use Cien' No EA Lashes placed within my WW folder and no problems.

https://cienzroza.blogspot.com/2017/04/soon-little-thing.html

 

Strange colors on clothing can also be caused by having cc recolor mods with the required original cc missing.

 

You can also look inside the WickedInfoLog.log file to check for duplicates.

Just open it and scroll down a fair bit past all the mods to find an entry named Duplicate Files and it should be 0 obviously.

 

You can disable Origins Auto Game Updates to prevent problems next time and wait until you've collected all the updated mods.

EA owns Origin and it gets installed with these things enabled which most people don't know.

Always load Origin first and not the Sims 4 Icon.

If/when you click on My Games/Sims 4 it will either have Play or Update displayed.

When you see it says Update switch Origin to Offline mode first and then you can play without updating.

 

If you haven't looked here yet you might find more info about other non-adult broken mods from the latest patch:

 https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/984645/broken-updated-mods-cc-skin-tones-dec-2020

[Ahmy]

14 hours ago, Scorpio said:

You don't need any penis/tongue rigs because WW has it's own built in now.

In fact they are more likely to cause problems than not.

 

I use Cien' No EA Lashes placed within my WW folder and no problems.

https://cienzroza.blogspot.com/2017/04/soon-little-thing.html

 

Strange colors on clothing can also be caused by having cc recolor mods with the required original cc missing.

 

You can also look inside the WickedInfoLog.log file to check for duplicates.

Just open it and scroll down a fair bit past all the mods to find an entry named Duplicate Files and it should be 0 obviously.

 

You can disable Origins Auto Game Updates to prevent problems next time and wait until you've collected all the updated mods.

EA owns Origin and it gets installed with these things enabled which most people don't know.

Always load Origin first and not the Sims 4 Icon.

If/when you click on My Games/Sims 4 it will either have Play or Update displayed.

When you see it says Update switch Origin to Offline mode first and then you can play without updating.

 

If you haven't looked here yet you might find more info about other non-adult broken mods from the latest patch:

 https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/984645/broken-updated-mods-cc-skin-tones-dec-2020

Thanks very much for the note, as I didn't find that comment in the rig thread, I removed them now.

 

and I will make sure to use No lashes from the link you provided.

But after checking the link I noticed a note about not opening the mod in sims studio, I sometimes open mods to check them, so I am worried now that some of my mods were damaged by such thing xD!

 

Thanks very much about the turning auto game updates off, as I bought the game on steam I didn't think about checking origin program.

I am not sure if it will work with steam, but i guess it will, the way it works with steam, after I click play on steam, it opens origin.

 

And thanks again for the link I will check it, and while it I have question (it may be answered in the link so sorry if it does)

in my attached file, I have problem with some of the glasses, they have this weird grey pixels, the same thing appears in the sim4 studio.

also the crack effect thing when i zoom in some face and around lips

 

[Scorpio]

1 hour ago, Ahmy said:

I have problem with some of the glasses, they have this weird grey pixels, the same thing appears in the sim4 studio.

also the crack effect thing when i zoom in some face and around lips

I've heard some of the cc glasses were also broken by the last patch too so you may have to find updated ones, or another replacement, or remove them.

 

The crack in the face I have no idea but it might be from a cc skin/overlay, facial overlay, or makeup.

All you can really do is keep swapping out different items in CAS or try using only EA vanilla items to see if it goes away.

 

As for the No EA Lashes I think it means not to open the file itself with S4S.

But to be safe you can just remove it from mods temporarily if needed and put it back afterwards.  

[Ahmy]

2 hours ago, Scorpio said:

I've heard some of the cc glasses were also broken by the last patch too so you may have to find updated ones, or another replacement, or remove them.

 

The crack in the face I have no idea but it might be from a cc skin/overlay, facial overlay, or makeup.

All you can really do is keep swapping out different items in CAS or try using only EA vanilla items to see if it goes away.

 

As for the No EA Lashes I think it means not to open the file itself with S4S.

But to be safe you can just remove it from mods temporarily if needed and put it back afterwards.  

 

thanks very much for the reply and help

guess i will try to to check if it happens with a newly created sim or not as i didn't do that to know if the problem from the sim files or from the base game

 

Actually the glasses problem didnt happen when i was using the base sim

but the face crack happens on it, and as i believe WW use their own head, can it be a reason?

 

Edit: about the crack It is an issue that is affecting simmers that use Nvidia graphics cards, and it was there since 2016 lol (I fixed it using nvidia inspector)

[Scorpio]

1 hour ago, Ahmy said:

Edit: about the crack It is an issue that is affecting simmers that use Nvidia graphics cards, and it was there since 2016 lol (I fixed it using nvidia inspector)

Interesting, since I'm using a Radeon card it's probably why I've never seen it.