My sims relationship panel won't update sims now

[Scorpio]

Normally when I click on a sim in game they would get bumped to the top of my sims relationship panel but somehow it has become stuck and the sims in the panel always

stay in the same order now.

 

Working fine until I got the MCCC LE.

Had LMS Live In Services mod with 2 live in Gardeners working OK.

Also Kawaii Stacie's Roommates mod

 

Asked a teen townie from Mt. Komorebi to be my new roommate and it tripped a MCCC LE even though she did become a roommate anyway.

After that one of my live in Gardeners just left and no longer had the bold title above her head/name tag, 'Professional Gardener'.

Could not get her back even after kicking out the new roommate.

 

After that my sims relationship panel became bugged out.

Tried removing mods, cleaning game save, and repairing game.

Although I did skip a few packs from repairs as it was taking too long.

 

Wondering now if it borked my sim or my game save although I did exit without saving after all this happened.

 

EDIT: Placed my backup copy of my active sim into the same household and renamed my old sim.

Backup sim has no relationships or inventory but after meeting 3 sims his relationship panel seems to be working normally.

My old sim still has the glitch even when deleting the relationships with the other 2 female NPC live ins and 1 roommate so there seems to be no relevant connection with those sims anyway.

Now thinking my old sim is toast

 

Disabled SE Lifestyles and now get an error when loading my save/household.

BMD doesn't like something.

Same error when using MCCC to remove each lifestyle trait from my old bugged out sim.

 

Update: After removing all my old sims lifestyles and making a new save the errors stopped. 

 

Ended up having to delete my old glitched sim.

 

lastException.txt lastCleanException.txt

[dsnow]

I really wouldn't want to reopen an old thread, but I have encountered the same problem and I would like to fix it instead of deleting the characters, basically most of them encounter this bug at some point, any new interaction does not update the relationship panel order. Could you tell me if you've encountered it again or maybe found more information about what's causing it?

I've been trying to find a solution to this with absolutely no solution (tried clearing cache, removing mods, reloading etc., nothing worked) and then I came across this post. Did you have to start a completely new game from scratch? That would really suck, my saves have been there for a while. It really annoys me that I don't know exactly what's causing it, could it be an in-game bug, some mod fucking something up... there's no trail to follow up on.

As a side note, there's also absolutely nothing on the ea-forums, nothing similar there that could help troubleshoot.

[Scorpio]

9 hours ago, dsnow said:

I've been trying to find a solution to this with absolutely no solution (tried clearing cache, removing mods, reloading etc., nothing worked) and then I came across this post. Did you have to start a completely new game from scratch? That would really suck, my saves have been there for a while. It really annoys me that I don't know exactly what's causing it, could it be an in-game bug, some mod fucking something up... there's no trail to follow up on.

A friend on here has never had this problem but I do so it might be a random game bug.

 

Only happens when I start a new game as once you get the panel working right it seems to stay fixed.

My workaround is to keep inviting sims to visit starting at the top/first sim in the relationship panel.

Usually some type of friendly, ahem, interactions with them will move them down into their correct order.

Just have to keep repeating it by inviting them over until they don't move down the list anymore.

 

I had two stubborn sims I could not invite over, a Forrest Ranger and Mimsi the Ghost.

So I used MCCC Relationship Menu to Forget them.

 

PS: Best to do this before you meet 50 sims as I just finished doing this again on a new game save.

 

You should know when it's working right, just scroll to the bottom or the relationship panel and ask the last sim to visit.

Afterwards you should now see that sim as first on the list.

Usually I can just click on a sim walking by and they will pop into first slot if you already know them.

Sometimes random sims will pop into this first spot too. 

[dsnow]

I'm gonna test it out thoroughly, but I wanted to post to say thanks for the insight, this is pretty much the only source of info anywhere on this issue.  If it would have fixed it permanently, I would have just started a new game, but the problem is that this bug reoccurs. I will try your suggestions and see if it's doable, or fixable even.

As an example, I've saved a household in the library, deleted the one that's placed in-game and replaced it and after that it works as intended for a bit, but then it eventually happens again (happened to new households as well). The panel just freezes and doesn't update at some point in the game and I still haven't found a way to fix it or even reset it. I've yet to test removing the 5 columns in cas mode, tmex's mod and the simulation lag fix, but I thought it should be pointless since those script-mods shouldn't have anything to do with the relationship panel's code. WW doesn't seem to be the culprit either, if I remove it it doesn't seem to fix the issue.

[Scorpio]

42 minutes ago, dsnow said:

I've yet to test removing the 5 columns in cas mode

I'm using 4 columns version but I don't think it matters.

 

The only way to be sure it isn't a mod causing it is to remove all mods and play a vanilla save for some time.

You then know for sure if it's mod related.

Ya, I know, sucks without mods but I've had to do it a couple of times with difficult problems trying to find the issue.

Especially when you have to add 1 mod back and retest again as it might take longer for the trouble to start.

 

My active sim would just keep raiding the fridge until no food was left, and obviously wasn't even hungry.

 

Had an Autonomy mod SCAM and had disabled several autonomous actions related to watch movies and change channel disabled, go figure.

My sim couldn't watch what he wanted on TV so he ate instead.

Once all the TV related autonomy was re-enabled he stopped raiding the fridge.

 

But I've never found the actual cause of the Relationship Panel update problem. 

[merkle]

Sorry for the necro-post, but I've just encountered this problem.  I was playing the same game since early this year and the relationship panel worked normally.  I just started a new game and it's behaving exactly as you describe.  It's a royal PITA since the top half of the panel is dominated by dead Sims?.  Given that you saw the problem a year ago, that suggests to me it's not a mod conflict or I would have seen it in my previous game.  I started with a newly created Sim and not one from my library, so we can rule that out.  Are you still seeing this?  Have you found a fix?

[Scorpio]

2 hours ago, merkle said:

Sorry for the necro-post, but I've just encountered this problem.  I was playing the same game since early this year and the relationship panel worked normally.  I just started a new game and it's behaving exactly as you describe.  It's a royal PITA since the top half of the panel is dominated by dead Sims?.  Given that you saw the problem a year ago, that suggests to me it's not a mod conflict or I would have seen it in my previous game.  I started with a newly created Sim and not one from my library, so we can rule that out.  Are you still seeing this?  Have you found a fix?

You should never see dead sims in your relationship panel unless they are now Ghosts.

This would suggest you may have something else going on and even possibly a Mod or corrupted Game files.

 

But it's important to delete your localthumbcache.pkg before starting a new save in case it has old game data from your previous save.

 

New saves start out with your player sim not knowing anybody else unless of course they were part of a household with other sims.

 

My issue was, and is, newly met sims sometimes get stuck at the top of the relationship panel and don't move down the panel list when you meet up with sims from the bottom of the panel as those should be moved into #1 in the relationship panel.

Sometimes they also stack up to multiple sims rather than just a couple.

[merkle]

50 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

You should never see dead sims in your relationship panel unless they are now Ghosts.

This would suggest you may have something else going on and even possibly a Mod or corrupted Game files.

 

But it's important to delete your localthumbcache.pkg before starting a new save in case it has old game data from your previous save.

 

New saves start out with your player sim not knowing anybody else unless of course they were part of a household with other sims.

 

My issue was, and is, newly met sims sometimes get stuck at the top of the relationship panel and don't move down the panel list when you meet up with sims from the bottom of the panel as those should be moved into #1 in the relationship panel.

Sometimes they also stack up to multiple sims rather than just a couple.

Sorry not to be clear, but yes they are ghosts of recently deceased Sims.  The ordering in my relationship panel doesn't seem to change at all when my Sim meets or interacts with other Sims.  This sounds like what you're describing.  My searching has found scattered reports of this, but nowhere have I found a solution.

[Scorpio]

2 hours ago, merkle said:

Sorry not to be clear, but yes they are ghosts of recently deceased Sims.  The ordering in my relationship panel doesn't seem to change at all when my Sim meets or interacts with other Sims.  This sounds like what you're describing.  My searching has found scattered reports of this, but nowhere have I found a solution.

The only way I've found to clear the roadblock and traffic jam is to invite those sims over one at a time and interact with them somehow.

Sex works too when you invite them over.

Start at the Top Left #1 slot in your relationship panel and they should move down the list to where the roadblock starts.

Just keep going and it might take awhile to get through all of them depending on how many are stuck.

 

I still haven't found the cause of it but it doesn't happen to everyone so it might be just a random game bug.

Almost every new save it happens at some point.

 

If you don't want to bother with Ghosts you can remove them from your relationship panel with MCCC.

Click on Sim in the Panel and Select MCCC > Relationships > Forget Sim > Both Friendly and Romantic.

[merkle]

4 hours ago, Scorpio said:

The only way I've found to clear the roadblock and traffic jam is to invite those sims over one at a time and interact with them somehow.

Sex works too when you invite them over.

Start at the Top Left #1 slot in your relationship panel and they should move down the list to where the roadblock starts.

Just keep going and it might take awhile to get through all of them depending on how many are stuck.

 

I still haven't found the cause of it but it doesn't happen to everyone so it might be just a random game bug.

Almost every new save it happens at some point.

 

If you don't want to bother with Ghosts you can remove them from your relationship panel with MCCC.

Click on Sim in the Panel and Select MCCC > Relationships > Forget Sim > Both Friendly and Romantic.

Thanks.  That worked.  I thought the panel was completely stuck, but it turned out it was only a few at the top that were stuck.  Now the question is, how long before it sticks again?  The whole thing seems very peculiar with no apparent explanation why it does what it does.

[Scorpio]

7 hours ago, merkle said:

Thanks.  That worked.  I thought the panel was completely stuck, but it turned out it was only a few at the top that were stuck.  Now the question is, how long before it sticks again?  The whole thing seems very peculiar with no apparent explanation why it does what it does.

It seems to only happen once per save so far and then it stays working correctly afterwards.

Something happens to prevent the relationships of certain sims to get updated completely, or correctly, and then they get 'stuck'.