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[mod] Regula Magistri


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I haven't tested this yet but this checks all boxes for my perversions so I'm certainly hoping it'll go far.

 

A similar mod was uploaded a while back but this already appears more polished.

 

One issue that is very noticeable in harem and incest mods thus far is the insane amount of stress you'd accumulate with spouses, lovers, siblings and children dying. It's enough to cause a chain cascade and wreck your dynasty in a few years. This will almost certainly need to be addressed for the mod to be playable.

 

I'll give this a spin and report back.

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OK, so I didn't get very far with this mod at all.

 

The description given was: 

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The intent of these is to create a state headed by a single (male) ruler and his female vassal concubines

Yet there is nothing in the mod that makes the vassals concubines. As you know this is disallowed by vanilla game mechanics since rulers cannot be concubines.

The other mod that does was able to achieve this but it was a bit hit and miss. But this mod seems to only have a modified inheritance scheme but vassals can marry betroth as they please, which defeats the whole point of the mod.

 

Maybe I'm just missing something?

This seemed like a very promising mod, but the core features are missing...

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

v0.2 is out.  I've added a few things. :)

 

Changelog:

Added a series of Magister traits, keyed to devotion levels.
Added Paelex, Domina and Orba traits.
Added the Domitans Tribunal interaction, which recruits landed vassals into your harem.
Added the Favens paelex and Demitte domina interactions, to promote and demote concubines. This moves upgrades a concubine to the wife slot, and vice-versa.
Added Magister and Devoted tenets.
Added re-initiation events, to add some flavour when a PC dies.

 

Pictures

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There need to be events where current vassal/harem members bring their primary heir to you, and another event in the event that a vassal/harem member becomes unlanded/loses their primary title. Otherwise this starts to become a hassle to keep track of whether your vassals are under your control, or if your harem members are actually useful, once your realm starts to get large. Especially if there are wars for titles of your vassals. I've had issues were I've enthrall my vassals, and come back and find that half have lost their primary title or become completely unlanded.

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Version 0.3 is out!

 

This adds a new feast-like event, Throw an Orgy. It's a little straightforward at the moment, but will hopefully be fleshed out as things proceed.

 

There's also the mods first AI-only scheme, Rapta Maritus. On your orders a wife with the Mulsa trait will attempt to kidnap her husband, delivering him to your dungeon. The wife will take all the of the risks of discovery from the event, and won't take up your hostile scheme slot.

 

Due to some under-the-hood interactions during the orgy, this version will require Carnalitas to function properly.

 

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On 11/30/2020 at 9:00 AM, A_Random_Guy said:

Pretty good idea for a mod but i have many of my landed concubines having relationship with someone else which ruins the immersion somewhat. Could it be a conflict or something else?

 

In the versions 0.22 and later your paelex should be too honest to stray. If you're paranoid you'll still worry that they're cheating on you though.

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Hi. I'm playing CK3 1.2.2 with Carnalitas & Regula Magistri as the only mods running. I can convert my MC to Regula Magistri, but I cannot gain access to the Fascinare scheme. I also cannot change my MC's succession law to Hereditas Magistri without High Crown Authority (which makes another 'pillar' of the mod inaccessible to players for a considerable period).



 

 

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Are you converting manually or through the "Acquire the Regula Magistri" decision?  All of the abilities of the mod interactions require a Magister trait, which can only be obtained via that decision (or events/decisions that require a magister ancestor).

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RathAzu, the mod is male player-centric.  I'm aiming for a bit of a puppetmaster focus (is a haremocracy, after all), but the mod isn't meant to be played from a female sub POV. A female Magister is theoretically possible, but a making a mod with that much flexibility is beyond my writing skills/free time.

 

blblblb, glad to hear it! 

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On 12/27/2020 at 4:36 AM, bobbily said:

Are you converting manually or through the "Acquire the Regula Magistri" decision?  All of the abilities of the mod interactions require a Magister trait, which can only be obtained via that decision (or events/decisions that require a magister ancestor).

Yes, I was. It might be an idea to make the need to take this decision more prominent in the documentation, particularly as decisions in CKIII don't have as much immediate visibility as in CKII.

 

On 11/17/2020 at 11:03 AM, bobbily said:

Concubines can't inherit titles.

I take it that this is inherent in the way that CKIII handles concubines? One work-around would be to have the harem be secondary wives rather than concubines. Another would be to create a decision whereby, if the concubine-vassal has an adult daughter, the ruler can force her to abdicate to that daughter (so that the daughter can be landed before becoming a concubine).

 

Incidentally, is there an event to make daughters of a Mulsa/Paelex automatically Mulsas on becoming adults? Or do you have to expend hostile scheme slots on converting each successive generation (which could be quite a bottle-neck for a large realm).

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I've added a note to the "Installation" section at the top of the page.  The succession handling seems to be inaccessible to modders, but fixing that issue is mostly on the backburner right now, in favour of new features. It should only really be an issue for Paelices with claims, a relatively minor subset (and yes, you can always nab the daughters after they're landed).

 

At the moment only the Fascinare scheme can add the Mulsa trait. I've coded an event for adding it for free to the wards of the magister and all Mulsas/Paelices. It'll be going out in version 0.4, sometime in mid/late January.

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19 hours ago, bobbily said:

The succession handling seems to be inaccessible to modders, but fixing that issue is mostly on the backburner right now, in favour of new features. It should only really be an issue for Paelices with claims, a relatively minor subset (and yes, you can always nab the daughters after they're landed).

 

At the moment only the Fascinare scheme can add the Mulsa trait. I've coded an event for adding it for free to the wards of the magister and all Mulsas/Paelices. It'll be going out in version 0.4, sometime in mid/late January.

It would seem to be accessible to the extent of allowing 'Abdication mods', a variant of which (to allow you to force a vassal Paelex to abdicate) would seem to be possible.

 

Not having some mechanism means that you have to wait for one generation of Paelex to die off before you can start breeding her daughter (either yourself, or giving her to your heir as a concubine).

 

When would this event give the Mulsa trait, and how long would it take to fire? I generally assign my offspring guardians as 'tutors' specialised towards their education, rather than making either parent the guardian. You would in any case need to handle the case of the relevant parent (whose court the daughter was residing in) dying before the daughter gained the trait (so being unable to be their guardian).

 

Also, until 0.4 comes out, would there be any problem with assigning the trait manually?

 

 

On a different issue...

 

I have discovered that the Head of the Regula Magistri religion (the 'First Slut') is set up as an independent, female, landless duke. Your Magister cannot vassalise her, take her as a concubine, nor give her a landed title. You can Fascinare her, but because she is landless she cannot become a Paelex. Finally, her ducal title's succession is Hereditas Magistri, so the title will be destroyed on her death unless (anomalously) she has a male child to inherit it.

 

If you use the console to give her a title, you can then vassalise and Paelex her (giving her Hereditas Compedita succession in the process).

 

This would appear to be the case of the 'standard' setup for a head of religion conflicting with the specifics of this mod's religion and succession. A way around it would appear to be a decision or event that allows you to vassalise her and/or give her a landed title (doing either should allow you to then do the other).

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An abdication interaction would work, though it feels a little adhoc. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

The Mulsa event I mentioned will fire just before wards turn 16, and the identity of their guardian from ages 0-15 won't affect things. In the meantime, there should be no issues with assigning Mulsa traits through the console. 

 

Thanks for the bug report; I'll add it to the to-fix list.

 

 

AAA+ bat, the mod is currently only available in English.  I'm open to translations, if anyone is interested in contributing.

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On 1/1/2021 at 4:14 AM, bobbily said:

An abdication interaction would work, though it feels a little adhoc.

It doesn't need to be ad hoc. The rationale could be that when the daughter is old enough to join the Magister's harem, she is old enough to assume her duties as one of the rulers in the rule-by-harem. It certainly makes more sense for the Magister to prefer a young-and-fertile Paelex to an older and soon-to-be-infertile one. We could even create a trait for the abdicated mother, equivalent of 'Dowager Paelex', whose function is to advise her daughter and ease the transition.

 

This would also mean that you don't have to either risk the mother (if she's particularly healthy) living until the daughter reaches menopause, or having to kill the mother off (taking a hostile scheme slot that already is bottle-necked due to Mulsae creation, as well as the risks that it goes wrong, and that the mother being killed may be a talented and thus valuable member of the Magister's council).

 

Alternately, there is the suggestion of making the harem one of secondary wives, rather than concubines.

 

 

Addendum: using (Switch Character and) the this Abdication Mod, you can have your Paelices abdicate to their daughters,  even after the daughters have already become your concubine.

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This is a well done smooth all rounded mod, very nicely done.

Some suggestions:
1- Is it possible to make the landed concubines raise the children? That sort of deals with the huge abundance of kids one would otherwise have and the annoying alliances that tend to come with it.

2- Consider replacing the onaction maintenance action with the rules in the actual laws file. That way you can make it automatically trigger and if you make it check for is_ai the mod can work for vassal players as well as independent rulers.
3- Would you consider adding in a maintenance action for the mulsa trait? Example of a quick one I made is at bottom of this post
4- Is it possible to suppress the pregnancy notifications after the orgy decision? Or alternatively suppress the suspected adultery that comes with it.
5- Would you consider enabling male knights/commanders? There is a real excess of them and no way to really get them out of your court in a non-tedious way.

There also seems to be a strange issue with the magister religion group: It can't have crusades even as a custom religion. Can't replicate this with any other custom religion mod I've used.
 

regula_paelex_event.abc = {
    hidden = yes
    type = character_event

    trigger = {
        is_male = yes
        faith = { has_doctrine = doctrine_gender_magister_dominated }
        is_landed = yes
    }

    immediate = {
        every_vassal_or_below = {
            limit = {
                highest_held_title_tier >= tier_county
                is_female = yes
                NOT = { 
                    has_trait = paelex
                    has_trait = domina
                    has_trait = mulsa
                    has_trait = orba
                }
            }
            add_trait = mulsa
        }
    }
}

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