Unskilled Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 Hi!I'm searching here for a looong time (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13908-setbody-reloaded/) why while raping vanilla ennemy use correct futa penis and why new ennemys (humans) dont use them!I'm sure it's a little setting but i cant found it.Random body work fine. On vanilla humans and news.But...If a girl is raping, the futa meches are missing.With my own character it work, i mean, if i rape, i have futa.The vanilla character too (like bandit, people in town, and many others).But the npc in "apachi goddess store" or "hentai mania" (<== Excellent mod for enchance your donjon exploration!) are with random body but when they rape they have no..dick.I think i'll add somes screens.Ok guys i hope you can help me!Thank's and see you soon!-------------------------------------------------------------EDIT-----------------------------------------------------Ok here's more precisions:It's not a vanilla problem, old or added npc have the same bug.I found what's wrong.It's with clothes:one clothe upper/lower make rapist completly naked (male or female) and they'r not with erect dick or futa.If it's 2 pieces of clothes as upper and a lower pieces, two differents close, not all in one, so the upper close stay (but there's a little bug i'll show) and lower is removed for erect or futa mesches.I'll make screenshot for you.
gregathit Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 Ok, one issue at a time: The futa option can be blocked if a mod has special "armors or clothes" that are marked as "non-playable" if you do not enable lovers to remove that type of armor. The "futa" cock is connected to the lower body so you MUST enable the entire lower body to be replaced or you will not see a futa cock. Long story short you need to play with the lovers settings a bit more to make sure the correct armor is being removed so the futa cock can show up. The "limp" dick deals are due to the wrong "chinopo" position being identified in the animations ini file. This is something I am slowly correcting in the animations workshop but I am currently less than halfway through so it will be awhile before I fix all of them. For right now you can open that animations ini file and change the chinopo value to 1 and it should be good.
Unskilled Posted March 31, 2013 Author Posted March 31, 2013 I'm not sure to understand you but the flacid dick for men are only when they wear somes "robes" closes or other armor which give upper and lower clothe in the same times.And if it's a girl, there's no futa. The clothes is vanilla clothes, an exemple the magician guilds i can make screen before sex when they' r wearing clothes. And during sex they'll not have erect cock or futa cock if girl.And with different upper and lower clothes, they have always the sames dicks for males (erect) and for girl too, with big boobs, you can see in picture boobs are too big for the clothes.Like a default body used, erected for males and futa (big boobs) for girls.
gregathit Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Ok, I don't think you understand how lovers and setbody works. There is NO body under the clothes. The body is PART of the clothes (look at the nif files via nifscope and you can see this). Thus when your PC (or an NPC) puts clothes on like a shirt, the body comes with the shirt. If the shirt is DMRA then it will have big breasts. However when the shirt is taken off then auto-setbody kicks in and randomly assigns an upperbody to that NPC the first time they get naked. That random assignment may or may not be the same body type or boob size as the shirt. Thus it "appears" that the PC's boobs have shrunk or grown. If you don't like this then you will need to disable the auto-setbody esp and manually assign bodies to NPC's or just install a single body type for all. To get futa to work you need to go in and enable it via the lovers settings spell (sexual exploits) and you will need to set what clothes are taken off. If you fail to do these things then futa cocks won't ever show up.
Unskilled Posted April 3, 2013 Author Posted April 3, 2013 Ok, I don't think you understand how lovers and setbody works. There is NO body under the clothes. The body is PART of the clothes (look at the nif files via nifscope and you can see this). Thus when your PC (or an NPC) puts clothes on like a shirt, the body comes with the shirt. If the shirt is DMRA then it will have big breasts. However when the shirt is taken off then auto-setbody kicks in and randomly assigns an upperbody to that NPC the first time they get naked. That random assignment may or may not be the same body type or boob size as the shirt. Thus it "appears" that the PC's boobs have shrunk or grown. If you don't like this then you will need to disable the auto-setbody esp and manually assign bodies to NPC's or just install a single body type for all. To get futa to work you need to go in and enable it via the lovers settings spell (sexual exploits) and you will need to set what clothes are taken off. If you fail to do these things then futa cocks won't ever show up. Ok thank's, but, it's not what i'm looking for. I'm missing words because i'm french. I hope screenshot help, but it seem it's not enough. So: Body wihout sex work fine wihout bug and are random. ===>Perfect. Body during sex have problem, different if it's a full clothe upper+lower clothes or one upper and one lower clothes. ===>Problem If it's upper+lower (like a robe) the body is no erected for males, and not futa for rapist female, but whith random bodies. ==>Epic Fail for not erected/futa. If it's only lower clothe removed during sex, male have erected lover sex, the basic mesches, and girl too, for futa, with a default boobs size.===>Fail. But i prefer default erected/futa mesche than nothing at all, even if boobs size is wrong. So... How correct this: have a random erected or futa (futa for rapist only) body during sex wilhe nude or wearing an upper piece of clothe. Please? Lover futa is enable. And change all npc bodys is too long i guess, no? why during sex theses "default bodies" appears? why auto set dont choose an erected of futa version during sex? And this, for completly nude character or with an upper clothes.
gerra6 Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 Which version of Lovers are you running? Which resources pack are you using? While you're at it, please post your load order. Now that I've got my modding rig up and running again, I've tested Setbody Reloaded on a fresh install with Lovers with PK 0.96 and the Resources pack 3 and everything appears to be working properly. I didn't even have to modify the default settings to get everything to work. So I suspect that you might be missing a resource, or there might be something wonky in your load order.
Unskilled Posted April 3, 2013 Author Posted April 3, 2013 Which version of Lovers are you running? Which resources pack are you using? While you're at it, please post your load order. Now that I've got my modding rig up and running again, I've tested Setbody Reloaded on a fresh install with Lovers with PK 0.96 and the Resources pack 3 and everything appears to be working properly. I didn't even have to modify the default settings to get everything to work. So I suspect that you might be missing a resource, or there might be something wonky in your load order. Yes i think too but i dont know what. So i use "LPK base rev96v2" with "Lovers Resources v3-for use with LPK rev96". You said it work with nothink at all exept your autosetbody and lovers pk 0.96+resources? Hmmm... And what's happen during sex? Different bodies and erected/futa penis? I know i have a lot of old version of lovers lab mod but i dont know which mod do what. I'll try to delete them one by one, search for useless mod, maybe they create the bug. I dont know. I use boss manager for my load order. I'll try wire bash. But tell me if it's a default ereced/futa body during sex or if it's a random body exactly like when they'r simply nude (nude wihout sex there's no problem for me). EDIT:adding more screenshot to explain: Here it's male erected default body for rapist with armore upper and lower removed. Here's a rapist with ROBE clothe: random body but futa is missing! (if it's a male, it's erect penis missing) Here's prostitute mod, but look, she's the "rapist" (my succube is the "victim") and she have like the guard an upper and lower clothe, so she have a default meche body (futa).
gregathit Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 Yea, I am not really sure what you are asking here but I'll give it a try: Screenshot 1: Looks fine and is the way it is supposed to be. Screenshot 2: If the futa cock or male penis is missing then you have a problem with a clothing\body of some sort that is preventing lovers from switching it out. You will need to find what plugin is messing with things. Screenshot 3: You have something really messed up going on in your game as the boobs should not be poking through the clothes. Everything else is normal.
Unskilled Posted April 4, 2013 Author Posted April 4, 2013 Yea, I am not really sure what you are asking here but I'll give it a try: Screenshot 1: Looks fine and is the way it is supposed to be. Screenshot 2: If the futa cock or male penis is missing then you have a problem with a clothing\body of some sort that is preventing lovers from switching it out. You will need to find what plugin is messing with things. Screenshot 3: You have something really messed up going on in your game as the boobs should not be poking through the clothes. Everything else is normal. Ok question: why download autosetbody? response: for random different body! Yay! Question: Is it "normal" if during sex and wearing an upper piece of clothe the body are all the sames? Response: hmm, no, if it's normal, it's different random body during sex too....No a default one for every character. Yep, and another question! Is it normal if wearing a two piece clothe like robe, when it removed the character are not erect or futa? response: sure not. -----Thank's.---- Anyway, thank's to try to help. But it's too late now i have completly delete my game, re-install it. so building a lot of mod for now, i'll try to test later. Because "gerra6" have his game which work wihout problem and me i know i have older files so i hope making a new data clean will help.
gregathit Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I don't think you understand how lovers OR setbody works still. Lovers ONLY swaps out the lower body nif file during sex. If you do NOT set the clothes to come off via the sexual exploits (lovers settings) spell then they will stay on. Autosetbody ONLY selects a random body ONE TIME for each NPC and your PC. It does this the FIRST time you or they get naked. Autosetbody had NOTHING at all to do with Lovers with PK. Setbody\Autosetbody does NOT change clothing bust or butt sizes or body shapes. All it does is change the nude body. Whether the cock is errect or not can be due to other factors like a mod conflicting with lovers. You will need to post your FULL load order for us to try to help you in that regard. There is no separate body below the clothes. The clothes and the body are one thing. When you swap out a upperbody only shirt the exposed flesh is part of that shirt mesh and not something that goes over it. My game works perfectly just as Gerra6's does and yours can to if you have the proper load order, the correct settings enabled and understand what things do (and what they do not do).
Unskilled Posted April 5, 2013 Author Posted April 5, 2013 Dont worry i have tried different way with the lovers spell, sense sexual exploit.And it's after installed autosetbody the boobs size grow up for each character while raping (only if they wear an upper piece, if they r full naked, they have an random body set but wihout futa(if raping) cock or erect cock.)Yes it's a strange bug maybe load order, maybe conflit, i dont know. Bash dont found any error and boss make a good load order. Really i dont know. That why i'm making a new data game Thank's anyway.but i have a question: during sex, is there a random size cock/futacock like there's for boobs ? Or one default body erected/futa like lover does wihout autosetbody?
Unskilled Posted April 6, 2013 Author Posted April 6, 2013 Ok hi again it's me.So, new data folder, because complete unsintall of the game and a new installation.I have the same problem.No erected body/futa cock if wearing a clothe with lower and upper clothe both.If wearing only upper, an default erected or futa cock appear.By the way this time no bug with boobs size.I'll send you a screen shot with my Wryebash and you'll see maybe if somethink is in conflit or i dont know... because me, well..i dont know.One part and a second little part. I dont know what's wrong... EDIT: Ok finally it's easy when we consider the problem. There's no random "erected/futa" lower body with "autosetbody".I'm right or wrong? Simply respond to this question. If i'm right so it's normal, if there's an "erected" lower body added in random too while sex, so, somethink is missing.Maybe in INI files i have to set something. Maybe. Dont know.Please help
gregathit Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 The entire lowerbody is swapped out for the futacock or the 'erect' male cock. If you have any clothing on that includes a lower body part then lovers is blocked from making the switch. Go into your lovers settings and set it to remove all upper\lower body armors\clothes.
Slaanesh Devotee Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 I'm having what I think is the same problem as this guy, though as a native English speaker I can hopefully articulate it a little better. Though to be fair, gregathit is right, there's absolutely no reason this should be happening the way it is, and it confuses me greatly. I'm also not convinced that it has anything to do with setbody, but the thread was here already, so I thought I'd add to it; sorry if etiquette demands I make a new one instead. When a male NPC (or female who's about to become a futa, but that's awfully cumbersome to include every time; blanket statement, futas be broken too) is wearing any outfit that has separate chest and leg pieces, everything works fine. The clothes that are supposed to come off come off and the lower body gets replaced with the erection-having model like it should. When a male NPC has a robe or some other combined chest/legs piece of clothing on, though, it doesn't work. Even when I set Lovers to strip everyone completely naked, the legs mesh never gets changed out and the poor fellow animates with whichever flaccid penis setbody has decided to give him. This affects the player as well as NPCs, for what it's worth. Once I started testing it in a little more depth, it started to get interesting. First of all, only sex is broken. If, for instance, I induce masturbation with the Instill Lust spell, then whether or not a fellow has a robe on he'll strip down and have an erection like he should. Secondly, if a player or NPC has -ever- been equipped with a robe, that's it. He'll never have an erection again. Even after unequipping a robe from myself or an NPC, the lower body mesh refuses to switch out when sex starts. Finally, as with all absolutely deplorable sorts of bugs, it happens reliably but not every time. Very occasionally, despite having a one-piece outfit on, an NPC (never me) will still work properly. It hasn't happened often enough for me to derive any useful information (happened twice out of a few dozen test subjects, always in the wild and never when I tried to engineer it), but there you have it. Possibly related is an error I've been getting since redoing my install: Motion ID 200 .KF file 8 is missing some files Please check if all 8 kf files are in the correct directory and the ini is in the right place. Which would be more helpful if I knew which files and directories precisely it meant. Whether or not it's related, if someone could shed some light on that, I'd be grateful. I'm running Lovers rev96v2 with resource pack 3. 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Merged Stacked Double Eye.espDF Race - Merged Single Eye NO R2M DROW.espE0 Race - Merged CCC Diagonal Eye.espE1 Cat's Photography Studio.espE2 Wiedergaenger Race.esp BOSS doesn't report any problems. And yeah, I know the race and photoshop mods after the bashed patch look odd (and are in fact a terrible, horrible no-good very bad hack I kludged together half a turn ago and should be slapped for), but I checked without them loaded and they're not breaking anything.
gregathit Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 First, move these four to the very bottom of your load order: D9 LoversMB2.espDA Lovers3dorgasmMB2.espDB LoversIdleAnimsPriority.espDC Lovers3dorgasm.esp Try to make sure you never have anything below them, even IF you think nothing is wrong. It just ensures that no dirty edit F's things up. Next, you need to go through your plugins with a fine tooth comb and remove the redundant\duplicate stuff: Pick one or the other: 21 Crowded Cities 15.esp22 Crowded Cities 30.esp Again, pick one or the other:23 Crowded Roads Advanced.esp [Version 1.3]24 Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp [Version 1.3] You have both Vwalk and 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp installed. This is probably causing all sorts of conflicts. Pick one walking system and stick to it. The Vwalk plugin contains umpa's walk so really you should just use it. Disable and delete these two plugins: C9 TSS Custom Companion Template.espCA Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp They are not lovers compatible and have far to many bugs (like the double face bug) for you to be using them. Use Mad Companionship Spells as it also allows you to recruit anyone in the game and is lovers compatible. You can leave Toaster Says Share v3.esm enabled as it won't hurt anything and is useful to allow you to quickly switch out the inventories of any NPC in the game you are on good relations with. You have a plugin that is listed as incompatible with lovers: 1E personality_idles2.esp More plugins that are not compatible can be found here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/12494-mods-that-are-not-compatible-with-lovers/ If you are using the latest version of zzEstrus.esp then make sure the nudeshy\BU function is turned off. Long story short you need to be wary of any plugin that adds idle animations as they can jack with lovers.
Slaanesh Devotee Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Aw snap, thanks for the quick and thorough reply! I figured I'd missed some redundancies when I redid everything. Embarrassing, but hey, at least someone caught it, whether or not it was me. I had no idea the walk mods were being quite so vile to each other though. Estrus is the new version, but the BU function is indeed off. Though it's hilarious to walk into my clothing warehouse and see all the mannequins covering themselves up, it kind of defeated the purpose of them being there in the first place. So that's all taken care of now, but unfortunately, it didn't help with the issue at hand. I crash way less often though, so that's a plus. Small victories.
gregathit Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 You need to cast your sexual exploits spell and MAKE CERTAIN all items are set to remove for males and females. The label is a bit misleading as it assumes straight sex. Males actually represents the dominate position (the one doing the fucking) and females actually represents the submissive position (the one getting fucked). More than likely you have an option set to "wear" or "random". Change all options (EXCEPT the tail) to "remove" and you should be set. Now rape is a different situation altogether "IF" you toggle the separate settings on. If this is turned on then you can set things to be removed differently than normal consensual sex.
Slaanesh Devotee Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Yeah, that one I did figure out when I was trying my hand at something else entirely. Everyone is unfortunately already set to remove everything except for tails. As an afterthought, I hopped back in and enabled unequipping non-playable equipment. There's no reason why that should have done anything since all the clothes were already coming off, but it fixed it. Some leg meshes, which are inexplicably always associated with one-piece armours, are evidently tagged as non-playable. I suppose that's as good a fix as I may get, though now I'll admit to being really, really curious as to what's going on there.
gregathit Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 That was going to be my next advice, to check if the meshes in the Setbody.esp file are marked as non-playable. The non-playable toggle should not be used very often and only when there is a really good reason for it, as it tends to cause all sorts of problems as you have found.
Slaanesh Devotee Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Is there any better way to fix that than going through setbody's resources in the CS and marking the meshes as playable one by one? My copy of setbody is from the link in the downloads section as of a week ago, so unless it's been patched in that time updating unfortunately isn't likely to help.
gregathit Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Not that I know of. Sorry. However, if you are working correctly now with the remove non-playable equipment setting toggle on, then why mess with it?
Slaanesh Devotee Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 You raise a good point. Curiosity, mostly. This'll do for the meantime, certainly; I figure I can mess around with it later when I inevitably decide to redo my install yet again, so if I break it I won't lose anything. Thanks again for your help, on behalf of both myself and the poor spellcasters of Tamriel who are no longer afflicted with crippling erectile dysfunction!
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