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Any way to reset the geometry of a neck altered in Racemenu?


SurpriseFatty

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A few years ago I spent a depressing amount of time working on my characters facial geometry in Racemenu. I got a weirdly fitting custom armor set w/ body from someone on this site. It had bodyslide but it didnt really work right. There would be a gap in the neck when i put the armor on and when i took it off it'd close up like normal. So for a one-time screenshot set i edited the neck to fit the enlarged body. Being a poopy head I saved over the original instead of making a new one. Ever since then I've always had a neckseam. it's not really noticeable but I know it's there. Is there a way to reset just the neck portion to default? I don't think it's possible but I'd rather have this neckseam than resculpt the face. I know I'll never be able to get it seamless by hand.

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, T-lam said:

overwriting with a new skin incl head dds

Rubbish. That is not a neck seam it is a neck gap. The head and the body are set to two different weights or the armour has not been built to the body in Bodyslide. If the gap is there on the naked body then it is the head/body weight issue. If it only appears when the armour is worn then it is the body/armour/Bodyslide one.

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On 9/3/2020 at 12:21 PM, Grey Cloud said:

Rubbish. That is not a neck seam it is a neck gap. The head and the body are set to two different weights or the armour has not been built to the body in Bodyslide. If the gap is there on the naked body then it is the head/body weight issue. If it only appears when the armour is worn then it is the body/armour/Bodyslide one.

Do you have any ways to fix it? I basically need to reverse the edits I made when I have no edit history available. If I even had a way to numerically plot these vertices I'd do it.

 

Posted
5 hours ago, SurpriseFatty said:

Do you have any ways to fix it? I basically need to reverse the edits I made when I have no edit history available. If I even had a way to numerically plot these vertices I'd do it.

 

Do the armor use body flag 32? It can be the body.

If its the head, import it into Racemenu and clear the neck part. And export it again.

You can PM the files if you want help

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I think if you post the head.nif for download and say what weight the body was set to last time it was exported someone could fix it.

The neck vertices don't look that far off  and maybe just a weight change and export/ import then smooth brush would do it.

Posted
5 hours ago, T-lam said:

You can listen to mrknoweverythingbetter or give it a try.

 

Body and face have different skins 

 

No they don't. They use different files but they are from the same skin texture mod. If you use the head textures from one mod and the body texture from a different mod you can get a 'neck seam' which is a colour mismatch where the body texture meets the head texture. There are other things which can can a neck seam but the OP has a neck gap.

 

 

Posted
8 hours ago, SurpriseFatty said:

Do you have any ways to fix it?

In game:

Open console

Click on PC/NPC

Type setnpcweight 0 (or whatever the weight is)

hit return and the face should go ugly

type disable and hit return (the character will disappear)

type enable and hit return (the character will reappear)

 

Alternatively for the PC

In racemenu

make the body 100 weight

import the head

make the body the weight you want

save the preset.

 

They are from memory so you might have to fiddle about to get it right. If the RM way doesn't work then try importing a different head and then re-importing the head you want.

 

There is also the brush method under the sculpt tab of RM as has already been mentioned.

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RaceMenu Clear Sculpt

 

That should be first thing u do... even if u have correct body / head face nif may be wrong...

RM have Sculpt editor... just clear what RM did...

 

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rebuild everything in BodySlide and then try again with RM

if BodySlide and RM can't help u just overwrite old meshes with new...

 

or u can just fix that in Blender ( im learning it last few days xD ) or OutfitStudio ( cool way to fix neck xDD )

 

 

 

watch video...

and it would be nice if u tell us what u were already trying... or u were not trying anything to fix ur problem ? xD

u just came here to ask instead of trying to fix it by ur own ? :D cool...

Posted
3 hours ago, TobiaszPL said:

RaceMenu Clear Sculpt

 

That should be first thing u do... even if u have correct body / head face nif may be wrong...

RM have Sculpt editor... just clear what RM did...

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

rebuild everything in BodySlide and then try again with RM

if BodySlide and RM can't help u just overwrite old meshes with new...

 

or u can just fix that in Blender ( im learning it last few days xD ) or OutfitStudio ( cool way to fix neck xDD )

 

 

 

watch video...

and it would be nice if u tell us what u were already trying... or u were not trying anything to fix ur problem ? xD

u just came here to ask instead of trying to fix it by ur own ? :D cool...

I'm trying to avoid having to resculpt the face. Took me a long time and I fucked it up for some screenshots. I'm pretty sure the only way to really get it back to normal will be to resculpt it.

Posted
12 minutes ago, SurpriseFatty said:

I'm trying to avoid having to resculpt the face. Took me a long time and I fucked it up for some screenshots. I'm pretty sure the only way to really get it back to normal will be to resculpt it.

 

Watch video...

use Sculpt mask and and reset mesh only for neck...

 

You don't have to clear sculpt for whole face... just clear it for neck...

as i show in vid. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, TobiaszPL said:

 

Watch video...

use Sculpt mask and and reset mesh only for neck...

 

You don't have to clear sculpt for whole face... just clear it for neck...

as i show in vid. 

 

24 minutes ago, TobiaszPL said:

 

Watch video...

use Sculpt mask and and reset mesh only for neck...

 

You don't have to clear sculpt for whole face... just clear it for neck...

as i show in vid. 

Sorry im not home rn. I didnt know how long it was. I just watched it tho. I never knew what that mask function meant but now that i do it seems super useful! thanks!

Posted
1 minute ago, SurpriseFatty said:

 

Sorry im not home rn. I didnt know how long it was. I just watched it tho. I never knew what that mask function meant but now that i do it seems super useful! thanks!

2 minutes 30 seconds :P 

my last tutorial about this was 7 min long so i made new special for u ^_^

 

Yes, thats how mask works :P

Mask disable edits on selected area.

Posted
21 minutes ago, TobiaszPL said:

2 minutes 30 seconds :P 

my last tutorial about this was 7 min long so i made new special for u ^_^

 

Yes, thats how mask works :P

Mask disable edits on selected area.

This is really usefull, never used mask b4, tx

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