Light Problem

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Hello.

Does anyone know how to fix the problem of black ''squares'' on the floor or on the walls? which appear (I think) when installing light mods. They appeared in my game after installing this Mod:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/17609?tab=description
 

Those black '' boxes '' appear in my game in certain cells, only when I light a torch or when I use magic that causes light, such as Candlelight spell. Etc.

And yep ... I ask in Nexus, on the page of the Mod but, to receive an answer there ... may take 'centuries'.

I hope someone can help me. 

Pics of the problem:
 

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[Grey Cloud]

Can you provide a screenshot?

 

Which version are you using - the with jit fomod one the without jit one?

I use the without jit version.

 

Does your ENB say it will work with Relighting Skyrim?

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My guess... this mod just replace normal omni light with omni shadowspot light... 

thats why on SS u can see casted shadows and light on land...

 

sadly...

CK and Skyrim are Trash...

 

Skyrim can handle up to 6 Omni Lights ( but u should place no more than 4 )

or up to 4 Omni Shadow spots ( but again, u should place no more than 3 )

 

if there is more than 4 shadow or 6 no shadows lights then Skyrim have problems with rendering it...

ofc. if u have 2 shadow cast and 2 normal you are already over skyrim limits

 

 

probably many idiot modders already know about "L" key in Creation Kit that allows them to see Light Ranges

however Light Range is not for Location Optimization ;x...

 

for that u have Light Amount Shader in properties, then all meshes lose textures and become one solid color ( from green to red )

if its green -> good ( however green is only when there is no lights on that mesh xD )

if its blue -> Skyrim can handle rendering this light easly

if its orange -> Skyrim can hangle rendering, however if there appear NEW light - for example torch or Magic Light then Skyrim may have problems

if its red -> Skyrim can't handle rendering that light, Mesh will be ignored while rendering or there will be Shadow BUG 

 - tbh it depend on GPU 

 

 

You can try to download some Fixes or something... maybe it will help

but thats what happend when u are abusing Shadowspot lights in Skyrim xDD

 

 

btw. thats what u can do in Skyrim without ENB ( its very old mod :x... around 2014 or maybe 2015 idk... )

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But its only my guess

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appear in my game in certain cells, only when I light a torch or when I use magic that causes light

There is very simple solution for that

JUST STOP DOING THAT XD stop using Torch and/or Magic

 

but tbh, its probably as i said, you cross Skyrim limits with your Extra Torch

 

 

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ofc. im talking about 4 Shadow or 6 Omni lights on single mesh

not in whole cell ^_^ if lights are not colliding each other there should be no problem :o

 

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Time Travel xDDD

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18 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Can you provide a screenshot?

 

Which version are you using - the with jit fomod one the without jit one?

I use the without jit version.

 

Does your ENB say it will work with Relighting Skyrim?

- In a moment I put the screenshot, well when I get home. 

- I use the version without Jit, but I think I will change it because some lights flicker too much, especially candle lights.

- Yep. That's why I installed the Mod because the ENB is incompatible with RLO. It is this one:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24828

[Grey Cloud]

7 minutes ago, TobiaszPL said:

My guess

The mod has been around since 2012 and has over 280k unique downloads (including me). It's authors are NovakDalton and JawZ. The mod works.

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13 minutes ago, TobiaszPL said:

My guess... this mod just replace normal omni light with omni shadowspot light... 

thats why on SS u can see casted shadows and light on land...

 

sadly...

CK and Skyrim are Trash...

 

Skyrim can handle up to 6 Omni Lights ( but u should place no more than 4 )

or up to 4 Omni Shadow spots ( but again, u should place no more than 3 )

 

if there is more than 4 shadow or 6 no shadows lights then Skyrim have problems with rendering it...

ofc. if u have 2 shadow cast and 2 normal you are already over skyrim limits

 

 

probably many idiot modders already know about "L" key in Creation Kit that allows them to see Light Ranges

however Light Range is not for Location Optimization ;x...

 

for that u have Light Amount Shader in properties, then all meshes lose textures and become one solid color ( from green to red )

if its green -> good ( however green is only when there is no lights on that mesh xD )

if its blue -> Skyrim can handle rendering this light easly

if its orange -> Skyrim can hangle rendering, however if there appear NEW light - for example torch or Magic Light then Skyrim may have problems

if its red -> Skyrim can't handle rendering that light, Mesh will be ignored while rendering or there will be Shadow BUG 

 - tbh it depend on GPU 

 

 

You can try to download some Fixes or something... maybe it will help

but thats what happend when u are abusing Shadowspot lights in Skyrim xDD

 

 

btw. thats what u can do in Skyrim without ENB ( its very old mod :x... around 2014 or maybe 2015 idk... )

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But its only my guess

There is very simple solution for that

JUST STOP DOING THAT XD stop using Torch and/or Magic

 

but tbh, its probably as i said, you cross Skyrim limits with your Extra Torch

 

 

//Edit:

ofc. im talking about 4 Shadow or 6 Omni lights on single mesh

not in whole cell ^_^ if lights are not colliding each other there should be no problem ?

 

//Edit2:

Time Travel xDDD

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Well, it's good info but it doesn't help me to solve this out. I like torches and magic of light. 

Oh! And yep ... while on Nexus my comment will spend centuries waiting for an answer ... 

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Oh! You mean the response time. It happens frequently, travelers in time.  lol 

[Grey Cloud]

11 minutes ago, Sneaksmile said:

In a moment I put the screenshot, well when I get home. 

See if you can get a shot with the problem in somewhere like an inn or longhouse so I look at the same spot in my game.

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4 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

See if you can get a shot with the problem in somewhere like an inn or longhouse so I look at the same spot in my game.

Okay. 

You can check in Hall of the Dead in Whiterun, that always happens to me there. 

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19 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

See if you can get a shot with the problem in somewhere like an inn or longhouse so I look at the same spot in my game.

I have uploaded the images. I put them in the first comment. 

[Grey Cloud]

How about that?

To be honest I couldn't see a problem in most of your images. I don't use torches or magic light except very, very rarely so I've never had or at least noticed the problem*. Anyway I fired up the game, ran to Dragon Reach and shelled out for a magelight tomb from Farangar.

* My Skyrim seldom gets too dark to see and on the odd occasion it does I just use my Succubus dark vision.

 

Hall of the Dead.

 

Same light and position but with my PC turned to the right



Where'd it go?

 

Round to the Mare

 



Couldn't see any problem in there.

To be honest #2: I got the Mare and the Huntsman mixed up. ?

 

So the good news is that it is not just you. The bad news is I haven't a clue as to fixing the problem.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

How about that?

To be honest I couldn't see a problem in most of your images. I don't use torches or magic light except very, very rarely so I've never had or at least noticed the problem*. Anyway I fired up the game, ran to Dragon Reach and shelled out for a magelight tomb from Farangar.

* My Skyrim seldom gets too dark to see and on the odd occasion it does I just use my Succubus dark vision.

 

Hall of the Dead.

 

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Same light and position but with my PC turned to the right



Where'd it go?
 

 

 

 

Round to the Mare

 

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Couldn't see any problem in there.
 

 

 

To be honest #2: I got the Mare and the Huntsman mixed up. ?

 

So the good news is that it is not just you. The bad news is I haven't a clue as to fixing the problem.

 

 

Yes, that is, when the character changes position, the ''squares'' disappear, also if I move the camera to another position but the character is still in the same position, the ''square'' reappears. What is that then? A kind of shadow play? Is it normal then?

 

The ENB preset that I use is quite dark. I think that makes the '' problem '' more noticeable. 

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19 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

How about that?

To be honest I couldn't see a problem in most of your images. I don't use torches or magic light except very, very rarely so I've never had or at least noticed the problem*. Anyway I fired up the game, ran to Dragon Reach and shelled out for a magelight tomb from Farangar.

* My Skyrim seldom gets too dark to see and on the odd occasion it does I just use my Succubus dark vision.

 

Hall of the Dead.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

Same light and position but with my PC turned to the right



Where'd it go?
 

 

 

 

Round to the Mare

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 



Couldn't see any problem in there.
 

 

 

To be honest #2: I got the Mare and the Huntsman mixed up. ?

 

So the good news is that it is not just you. The bad news is I haven't a clue as to fixing the problem.

 

 

Solved! Well, I had to uninstall Relighting. I have installed Enhanced Lights and FX instead. No more black squares  ?
 

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[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, Sneaksmile said:

Solved!

Nicely. ?

 

I use ELE_Lite_v0_95b_Only IL-59733-0-9-5b with Relighting Skyrim. (IL = Interior Lighting). I might have a look at a different set up if the problem annoys me enough.

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44 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Nicely. ?

 

I use ELE_Lite_v0_95b_Only IL-59733-0-9-5b with Relighting Skyrim. (IL = Interior Lighting). I might have a look at a different set up if the problem annoys me enough.

Yep. 

And thanks for the help here!