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So im getting an issue where some npc's who sit down have there boobs near there heads like this:

https://ibb.co/tpZvpxM

 

Mods used are cbbe, xp32, cbpc, smp-hdt & 3bbb - clothes built in bodyslide

Clearly something went wrong somewhere but not sure where! Any help would be great

 

Phsyics otherwise are fine

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On 8/27/2020 at 8:52 PM, jayjay83 said:

So im getting an issue where some npc's who sit down have there boobs near there heads like this:

https://ibb.co/tpZvpxM

 

Mods used are cbbe, xp32, cbpc, smp-hdt & 3bbb - clothes built in bodyslide

Clearly something went wrong somewhere but not sure where! Any help would be great

 

Phsyics otherwise are fine

All I can recommend is for you to first check that you have the latest version of each of mods you listed, including CBBE, Bodyslide and FNIS. I know you have probably checked, but it's important, so double check.

 

Next check that the load order is correct. Browse each of the mods' installation guides for info.

 

Once done, run FNIS. Be sure to include the top two checkboxes (arm fix and another - I forget).

 

Test it.

 

If the problem persists then it could be the sitting animation? Did you install a different one?

 

Anyway, luck.

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Sometimes when SMP begins to go South, the breasts on my female player start going North...a while before they do the angry-bats-tied-to-the-nipples" dance. 

 

Never quite that bad though. You sure that HDT-SMP is active and up to date? 

 

Is the armor an SMP armor? That also might be an issue. Sometimes my female's wig gets stuck in place. Perhaps the armor is the problem.

 

Next time it happens, try

  1. switching your body from SMP to CBPC mode and back again, this will reset your body's SMP
    - Both CBBE-3BBB and BHUNP come with a hotkey for swapping physics type
  2. taking the body armor off then putting it right back on. This will reset the clothing/armor SMP

 

Beyond that, I'm not sure.

 

PS> Just as a sanity check... is the  xpmsse skeleton installed? That can also be a problem source (my initial guess is you have the right skeleton, but one never knows) . 3BBB needs that skeleton. 

 

best wishes

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On 8/31/2020 at 7:01 PM, anjenthedog said:

Sometimes when SMP begins to go South, the breasts on my female player start going North...a while before they do the angry-bats-tied-to-the-nipples" dance. 

 

Never quite that bad though. You sure that HDT-SMP is active and up to date? 

 

Is the armor an SMP armor? That also might be an issue. Sometimes my female's wig gets stuck in place. Perhaps the armor is the problem.

 

Next time it happens, try

  1. switching your body from SMP to CBPC mode and back again, this will reset your body's SMP
    - Both CBBE-3BBB and BHUNP come with a hotkey for swapping physics type
  2. taking the body armor off then putting it right back on. This will reset the clothing/armor SMP

 

Beyond that, I'm not sure.

 

PS> Just as a sanity check... is the  xpmsse skeleton installed? That can also be a problem source (my initial guess is you have the right skeleton, but one never knows) . 3BBB needs that skeleton. 

 

best wishes

Thanks

Yes XP32 and SMP are all up to date

Could be an installation order issue or perhaps im doing something wrong in bodyslide studio and building outfits with wrong presets maybe!
But I didn't think I was

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Just a thought try reinstalling your skeleton (just reinstall not update). You know sometimes stuff gets overwritten, I had a similar problem sometime back and this fixed my problem.

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5 hours ago, jayjay83 said:

Thanks

Yes XP32 and SMP are all up to date

Could be an installation order issue or perhaps im doing something wrong in bodyslide studio and building outfits with wrong presets maybe!
But I didn't think I was

 

?Maybe?

 

Idk. I use Vortex, and while there are "armors" - Furset by Keung for instance - that load after the skeleton, many or most load prior to the skeleton.

 

Its load order contentions listings don't show any armors or clothing packages conflicting with anything at all.  (they're simply not present in the listings, which mean they don't, or more accurately Vortex has not detected any contentions) 

 

Usually, (like 99% of the time) when I see "weird" breast issues brought up in forum posts, they're associated with HDT-SMP, CBPC, and the skeleton itself. 

 

And usually, as I noted before, when my player's breast go wonky, a simple reset by toggling to CBPC mode and back is sufficient to clear the issue.

 

Are there any other symptoms? 

 

Does this issue persist when she's nude?

 

Have you tried resetting SMP? (y/n)

 

Otherwise, I'd have to guess you have a conflicting mod. Which one? ... that I don't know.

 

Tortuous as it may be, I'd recommend that you

  1. save a bodyslide preset for your player in preparation for what is to come.
  2. uninstall the body not disable. uninstall
  3. uninstall CBPC and HDT-SMP (and sinful CBP if you have it)
  4. reinstall the skeleton
  5. reinstall HDT-SMP and CBPC (and sinful CBP if you use it)
  6. reinstall CBBE-3BBB and make sure to check all its bells and whistles (make sure to allow installation of the optional CBPC ini stuff too)
    And when installing CBBE-3BBB, I use the full SMP support option, fwiw
  7. rebuild your body and any armors  and clothing you've fitted for her 
    Personally, I use the SE amazing ygNord body but I supoose that's jsut a personal choice.
    -make sure to check the build morphs checkbox, and make sure to build the hands and feet **after the body

 

best wishes

 

- edited for typos and content

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