pantyhose clips a lot with some armors, but not at all with others

[daijobu]

Hi! I'm using the UNP undies from this mod for UNP https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24774

My body is base UNP as well.

However, what I noticed is that there's a lot of clippings with the pantyhose, especially in the butt area. But strangely, the clippings happen very inconsistently. It clips a lot with some armors but not at all with others.

 

For example, this is when the pantyhose is worn with the lingerie form the same mod, where there is basically no clipping (the panties flashing in and out is something else). But then, on its own, there is so much clipping....

1st video attached or you can watch on imgur

https://imgur.com/a/jvHL7Y3

 

And then when worn with different armors:

- no clipping with any armor from the Tera armor collection for UNP

- the entire pantyhose clips through the body from the back when wearing another UUNP armor (from Harry2135) that I converted to UNP myself. I did some extra work later in the bodyslide, it reduced the clipping, but there was still a lot of clipping.

2nd video attached

https://imgur.com/a/VcVuIq7

 

Can someone tell me what's the source of the problem? Is it the pantyhose that's causing the issue? But if so why does it clip with some armors, but not with the others? If the pantyhose is not the problem, then why does it clip so much when worn on its own?
 

Would really appreciate if someone can explain the science behind this to me. Thanks! 

 

PS: I have no HDT physics SMP installed etc. All I have is the base UNP body and the XPMSSE skeleton. The clothes and armors also don't have physics. 

 

[Corsayr]

UNP varies a lot from modder to modder, which is why it is best to use UUNP and build everything from the same slider preset. 

 

obviously there is just a minor difference between your body and the pantyhose. This difference is a lot more with whatever you built the H2135 FS8 top with. 

[daijobu]

20 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

UNP varies a lot from modder to modder, which is why it is best to use UUNP and build everything from the same slider preset. 

 

obviously there is just a minor difference between your body and the pantyhose. This difference is a lot more with whatever you built the H2135 FS8 top with. 

thanks. But can you tell me why the clipping varies from armor to armor? If there exists discrepancies between the body and the pantyhose, shouldn't there ALWAYS be clippings regardless of which armor I put on? 

BTW, please also share the sauce of your profile pic ? 

[Corsayr]

Well every slot 32 item has it's own body, because the base body occupies that slot. 

 

So when that slot is empty, your base naked body is the one that is used. 

 

When you put on an outfit that uses that slot, it uses a different body mesh one that is included with the NIF if it didn't then the outfit would be floating in empty space with no body under it. 

 

Example: in the spoiler on the left is the base body, if you put on a Nord Bikini to it get replaced with the image on the right. Those bodies shouldn't be different (if built using the same bodyslide preset) but can be. Little discrepancies in bodies is why BodySlide and Outfit Studio was such an amazing addition to Skyrim modding. ?  

Spoiler

 

 

You second question can be answered in my Blog post about it. 

 

[daijobu]

20 minutes ago, Corsayr said:

Well every slot 32 item has it's own body, because the base body occupies that slot. 

 

So when that slot is empty, your base naked body is the one that is used. 

 

When you put on an outfit that uses that slot, it uses a different body mesh one that is included with the NIF if it didn't then the outfit would be floating in empty space with no body under it. 

 

Example: in the spoiler on the left is the base body, if you put on a Nord Bikini to it get replaced with the image on the right. Those bodies shouldn't be different (if built using the same bodyslide preset) but can be. Little discrepancies in bodies is why BodySlide and Outfit Studio was such an amazing addition to Skyrim modding. ?  

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You second question can be answered in my Blog post about it. 

 

thanks a lot! Really helpful explanation
So can you please tell me how I can change the body I'm using right now into the presets that I changed my armors to (UNP skinny) in body slide? I thought I was already using UNP skinny but guess not. But I don't know how to customize a base body like I did with the armors since there is no body preset in the body/outfit section, only in the preset section.