bandygirl1 Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: That's a fact is it? Deductive reasoning. I seriously have no idea what your glitch is when it comes to MO. You freely admit yourself all over this forum that you don't have the experience with it needed to offer advice about it's functionality, how to use it, ect. Yet, you're the first to chime in whenever someone who does have the aforementioned offers it. The MO vs NMM vs Vortex discussions have been done to death. No one is interested in rehashing them. The OPs problem has been solved by those who understand and use MO, the manager he uses. The end. 1
Grey Cloud Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, bandygirl1 said: Yet, you're the first to chime in whenever someone who does have the aforementioned offers it. I haven't said anything about MO, I mentioned Tannin and Vortex. I was also trying to help here before it became an MO thing. I stopped once it became obvious that it was MO related. And for the record I stand by my initial diagnosis - that the OP needed to sort out his load order. Good modding practise and the issue would not have arisen in the first place.
Grey Cloud Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, bandygirl1 said: Deductive reasoning Based on what? Rumour, wishful thinking? We can't criticise Saint Tannin, patron saint of nannying can we?
Just Don't Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Eh, It's not that big of a deal. MO was made with Bethesda games in mind, Vortex on the other hand must accomplish what the Nexus people want: a single piece of software capable of handling dozens of different games. Although for most people Vortex is good enough for their day to day mod experience, you can't expect the same amount of detail and control over Bethesda games as you would have with MO (which is only needed or desired after the user knows about it, so it's not essential for most people IMO). And even then, there are some incomplete features in MO. Stuff like no support for OMOD installers or the removal of BSA handling (or was it hidden as experimental?). These are just 2 examples I can remember atm. But for the existing/working features, once the user learns how to use them properly, it just works.
sanaret Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 On 7/28/2020 at 2:52 AM, DarkChaoX said: Finally can confirm myself the MO2 limit on the left panel no matter what the deactivated and activated plugins are seems to be arround 500 plugins. I have managed to significantly lower the number by making all merged plugin esps optional thus my game is now playing properly! Cant thank everyone in here enough! You all were amazing and if it werent for you guys i wouldnt have ever been able to find this out. From the bottom of my heart i thank you all! This thread has saved my bacon 3 yeas later, thank you epic LL community
Just Don't Posted April 1, 2023 Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, sanaret said: This thread has saved my bacon 3 yeas later, thank you epic LL community Just so you know the limit is 512 for enabled+disabled plugins. It's not related to MO, it's just a Bethesda thing. It can be avoided by recommended practices such as removing unused plugins from /data (or setting them as optional in MO, no idea what the equivalent for Vortex would be). With Engine Fixes (for SE/AE) this isn't a problem at all. All in all there's no reason to hit that limit other than bad modding practices.
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