BodySlide CBBE 3BBB Morph Issues

[Catastrophic]

I'm at my wits end with trying to make this work.

I feel like I've got a good understanding of the tools and the process, but I am clearly missing a significant step because I've never had everything work at once.

What I want to do is have a custom body with nodes in the breast belly and butt that mods can scale.

 

I use Mod Organize 2 to keep overwrites figured out.

 

Here are the body-related mods I have:

https://imgur.com/YMoBveK

'Bodyslide Overrite CBBE' is the files output by BodySlide (meshes and some things in a CalienteTools folder). Ignore the spelling

WrongBody was a attempt to fix the issues but it seemed to make little to no difference.

 

Here is what I have done with bodyslide:

1. Run the program as administrator

2. Select "Build Morphs" checkbox

3. Select the preset from WrongBody, CTRL click Batch Build, tell it to build in the 'overrite' mod

4. When prompted for overwriting duplicate files, I push SE CBBE Special

5. Select "3BBB Amazing Body SMP ON Object Player or Follower", build and place the nif and tri files into the overrite mod folder as well

 

Here is what the file structure looks like:

Meshes > actors > character > character assets:

https://imgur.com/GCu5ry3

 

CalienteTools > BodySlide:

https://imgur.com/LLNgjR5

 

To test all this I did horrible things to a save file so she should have really high morph values from all the nodes.

Here is the unfortunate result:

https://imgur.com/j30uIpi

Only the belly has physics.

 

 I tried to find relevant tutorials but everything I've come across seems to be outdated or for a different but similar subject.

 

 I've been messing with this for an incredible long time and have had different issues at different times, but it's usually random nodes not working or weird body shapes when nodes do respond. Some clothing works even better than the nude body, such as Devious Follower slutty armors. The body parts seem to scale in the CBBE morphs menu of RaceMenu but they still looks weirdly shaped (mostly the belly at the moment) and they don't seem to respond to mods.

 I would appreciate any help on this. If you need to see anything else let me know, at this point getting screen shots is the easy part.

 

I'm about ready to give up despite how much I was enjoying some of these amazing mods when I thought it was working.

 

PS: I had similar issues with BHUNP though not quite as horrific. Which makes me think I am probably doing something wrong with bodyslide but I have no idea what.

[anjenthedog]

I can't help you with any issues that come about from this "Bodyslide Overwrite CBBE" thing (although If it works outside MO2, I'd be interested in a link)

 

Anyway. if you're not experiencing any physics, I think I can at least get you started in the right direction.

 

First, install Sinful CBP.

 

Now that that's done...

1. from bodyslide, for Body/Outfit, choose SE 3BBB Body Amazing (I believe you said you use standard 3BBB)
2. choose an appropriate CBBE/3BBB Preset. (Alternatively, if you were using a BHUNP standard, you would use only the provided BHUNP presets as templates) 
3. check the Build Morphs checkbox so you can do in-game racemenu slider changes later.
4. do whatever tweaking you're going to do.
5. open Bodyslide Settings and make sure that the entry under Advanced (A file folder  specifier for output redirection) is empty so the changes will go directly to the player folder. (yes, even if that isn't your end goal. we're trying to get the physics going)
6. click Build
7. make sure to Save As your preset (I usually name the new preset, even if a lockstockbarrel duplicate of a standard preset, by the character I'm working on, saving variants (Sayah1, Gladis442, etc...) as necessary while developing) and select the appropriate categories for the clothing, armor, and preset types shown when editing it. It'll save you headaches later.
8. also, make sure to build the associated feet and hands to prevent seam issues. (leave the Build morphs checked)
9. open the game. Check your character. Get nekkid and jump up and down a few times to make sure physics is working.

If so, close the game and go back to bodyslide to fit your armor and stuff, and carry on.

 

If not... Open the MCM and navigate to the SInfulCBP menu

navigate to the Tuning submenu

set Tuning >> Rate (Autoupdate) to ON

 

exit the MCM and check again.

 

Note: technically the test should work with any of the 3BBB bodies: Fantasy, Physics, Special, and Amazing, but as I recall, at least early on, Amazing was the only reliable form, and that's what I know with certainty works. (Or *should work. Or works fine and dandy on my install anyway)

 

 

Final thought (at least for now): I *have* had to reinstall 3BBB several times after installing certain other mods like BHUNP, also when I installed Demonaic textures, and a few other body related mods, where there were load-order questions involved. Even when the load orders were sorted, something got gummed up in 3BBB and physics failed(s) entirely. After reinstalling 3BBB  (and also for 3BBB Advanced once I switched out for that)  and then rebuilding the body from bodyslide, everything worked(s) as expected. And has done so on multiple occasions when I encounter that peculiarity (PS> reinstalling means uninstalling then installing, not just dropping a second copy in) Don't ask me what happens there nor why reinstalling 3BBB and then rebuilding the body fixes it. I have no idea (although...maybe these related mods are overwriting common files during installation?)

[Catastrophic]

I actually managed to get physics working mostly.

It just involved hitting a hotkey provided by 3BBB while in game (NP+ by default) which somehow fixed it.

However the morph nodes are still all messed up.

 

The actual size of body parts seems to change when wearing different clothing, and they are always very small when naked (even though the game is indicating they are huge) except for the belly which still looks terrible when large except with certain armors from other mods or if changed manually via racemenu. MME will have milk particles appearing a few meters away from me while I stand there was almost flat breasts.

 Also when the breasts are quite large (from clothing) they start to clip into eachother and do weird glitchy physics.

 

 This whole thing is a total mess.

 

EDIT: Well, after much more failing to get the morphs working I've basically given up on any mod that uses morphs and am just playing with DD at this point. I loved MME and alike and the expansion stuff was soooo neat the rare times it worked, I would love to have that option back and it was the whole reason I was going to break into making my own mods. But since I can't even get morphs working for playing it seems a bit silly to consider making a mod that would use them. So I guess now its time for (just) cuffs collars and chains instead of cows (as well).