alex61821 Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 OK so lets just say for the sake of argument that i am an idiot. I would like to play skyrim in VR i have a PSVR and i own a copy of steam oldrim. Can i use trinusPSVR plus VorpX to run flatrim in VR? if so how do i start the skse version of it with a PS4 controller? I dont want to buy skyrim in VR unless i have to, unless the experience is that much better. I have read a lot of guides on installing mods and what not but i seem to be missing the you are an idiot guide on how to just start the game in the first place.
wpg97541 Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, alex61821 said: I would like to play skyrim in VR i have a PSVR and i own a copy of steam oldrim. Can i use trinusPSVR plus VorpX to run flatrim in VR? if so how do i start the skse version of it with a PS4 controller? You aren't really going to get the best experience that way. Even if VorpX works, the problem is PSVR and TrinusPSVR and the PS4 controller. Using a regular PS4 controller in VR isn't immersive at all, IMO. I've done it and you can do it but it feels more like a regular flat console gaming experience except you have the headset on your head. You really need actual VR-style controllers to experience it properly. When you have actual VR wands in your hands magic feels immersive like your hands actually have flames or lightning bolts shooting out. That is a big part of the fun in the VR experience - you really feel immersed, like you are the player character, in a way that flatrim can't achieve. I have used the move controllers for this on PC, but I don't think they are a good option. I was in the same boat as you and had a PS4 already with TrinusPSVR. After a lot of fighting (weeks) I was able to get Skyrim VR working with iVRy (switched from TrinusPSVR due to ease of use of iVRy) and my move controllers and got the navigation controller working too. However it was kinda unstable where the controllers would crash after about 20-25 minutes of play and I would have to restart everything, and that was with full fledged Skyrim VR running. The tracking of the move controllers was pretty bad too (PS3Eye cam) - my hands were just jumping around wildly like I was having a seizure and it made it super easy to accidentally steal an apple instead of talking to a merchant. I couldn't even imagine setting that thing up and including flatrim/VorpX in the process. I just wound up buying a proper VR headset that came with controllers (in my case, Samsung Odyssey+). The experience has been much better. Unfortunately you probably can't get the Odyssey+ right now - it went on 50% off sale just before the coronavirus hit and it seems a bunch of people bought them then b/c it is out of stock everywhere. The Rift S is probably the only good option available at this moment, until the cheaper Odyssey+ comes back in stock, or the HP Reverb G2 appears.
alex61821 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, wpg97541 said: You aren't really going to get the best experience that way. Even if VorpX works, the problem is PSVR and TrinusPSVR and the PS4 controller. Using a regular PS4 controller in VR isn't immersive at all, IMO. I've done it and you can do it but it feels more like a regular flat console gaming experience except you have the headset on your head. You really need actual VR-style controllers to experience it properly. When you have actual VR wands in your hands magic feels immersive like your hands actually have flames or lightning bolts shooting out. That is a big part of the fun in the VR experience - you really feel immersed, like you are the player character, in a way that flatrim can't achieve. I have used the move controllers for this on PC, but I don't think they are a good option. I was in the same boat as you and had a PS4 already with TrinusPSVR. After a lot of fighting (weeks) I was able to get Skyrim VR working with iVRy (switched from TrinusPSVR due to ease of use of iVRy) and my move controllers and got the navigation controller working too. However it was kinda unstable where the controllers would crash after about 20-25 minutes of play and I would have to restart everything, and that was with full fledged Skyrim VR running. The tracking of the move controllers was pretty bad too (PS3Eye cam) - my hands were just jumping around wildly like I was having a seizure and it made it super easy to accidentally steal an apple instead of talking to a merchant. I couldn't even imagine setting that thing up and including flatrim/VorpX in the process. I just wound up buying a proper VR headset that came with controllers (in my case, Samsung Odyssey+). The experience has been much better. Unfortunately you probably can't get the Odyssey+ right now - it went on 50% off sale just before the coronavirus hit and it seems a bunch of people bought them then b/c it is out of stock everywhere. The Rift S is probably the only good option available at this moment, until the cheaper Odyssey+ comes back in stock, or the HP Reverb G2 appears. I appreciate your input and ideas. I was thinking of doing the cheap setup for now since i already have the PSVR that way i could see if i even like wearing the headset to play. I know not having actual controllers will lessen the feeling but i just wanted to get a sense on whether or not i like it at all.
wpg97541 Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, alex61821 said: I appreciate your input and ideas. I was thinking of doing the cheap setup for now since i already have the PSVR that way i could see if i even like wearing the headset to play. I know not having actual controllers will lessen the feeling but i just wanted to get a sense on whether or not i like it at all. Why don't you try the PSVR on PS4 SkyrimVR then? It is probably easier. I assume you already have that, if you already have a PSVR headset.
prinyo Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 Oldrim + VorpX has some benefits compared to the official SkyrimVR when it comes to adult playthru: 1. All mods work. The official VR port still has problems with mods like DD, Racemenu, Nioverride... 2. There is 3rd person view. If you want to immerse youself in a power-fantasy experience where you are in the center of the action then the VR version + PCVR controllers is the way to go. But for a porn experience having a player character has benefits. The only thing that needs to be considered is that it has a head-guided sliding locomotion that can need some time to get used to. 5 hours ago, alex61821 said: if so how do i start the skse version of it with a PS4 controller? Looking at a tutorial video you just need to start SKSE on the PC.
wpg97541 Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 Racemenu and NiOverride work. I don't know about Devious Devices. But I am using Racemenu and NiOverride on VR.
alex61821 Posted May 12, 2020 Author Posted May 12, 2020 17 hours ago, wpg97541 said: Why don't you try the PSVR on PS4 SkyrimVR then? It is probably easier. I assume you already have that, if you already have a PSVR headset. Because I am a dirty old man and i cant play regular skyrim ever again. ?
alex61821 Posted May 12, 2020 Author Posted May 12, 2020 17 hours ago, prinyo said: Oldrim + VorpX has some benefits compared to the official SkyrimVR when it comes to adult playthru: 1. All mods work. The official VR port still has problems with mods like DD, Racemenu, Nioverride... 2. There is 3rd person view. If you want to immerse youself in a power-fantasy experience where you are in the center of the action then the VR version + PCVR controllers is the way to go. But for a porn experience having a player character has benefits. The only thing that needs to be considered is that it has a head-guided sliding locomotion that can need some time to get used to. Looking at a tutorial video you just need to start SKSE on the PC. I watched that video very helpful thank you for the link. In order to make the PS controller work in Steam i had to make a non-steam game setup that pointed at skse mo2. Just wondering what i need to do now in order to start oldrim + vorpX. Do i just start it from the same shortcut i just made in the steam big picture? step 1. be an idiot... check step 2. ? step 3. ? step 4. ? I know i need trinus and vorpx just not clear on the order to run things, does vorpx catch skyrim.exe even if i start it through skse? or do i point vorpx at skse? would it be easier to use a xbox controller? Really sorry to ask all the questions but on the bright side if you help me to get this working you will never hear from me again, unless its to ask how you play with one hand ?
wpg97541 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 When I was experimenting with PSVR on PC, I switched from TrinusPSVR to iVRy - more stable, easier to set up etc. I would recommend iVRy instead of Trinus.
alex61821 Posted May 13, 2020 Author Posted May 13, 2020 10 hours ago, wpg97541 said: When I was experimenting with PSVR on PC, I switched from TrinusPSVR to iVRy - more stable, easier to set up etc. I would recommend iVRy instead of Trinus. Thanks for the heads up, do i just use the PSVR light version?
wpg97541 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, alex61821 said: Thanks for the heads up, do i just use the PSVR light version? The light version is the free demo, you'll want to buy the Premium version for actual use. As it says on the page: "Lite" edition has all of the features of "Premium" edition, but will start to reduce color saturation after being connected for more than 10 minutes. Upgrade to "Premium" edition via Steam DLC to remove this limitation. TrinusPSVR is the same price I believe for the non-demo version, but iVRy Premium is much simpler to use and very stable - a much more polished product overall. I would say not to waste your money on TrinusPSVR with iVRy available now, especially since the pricing is nearly identical.
alex61821 Posted May 13, 2020 Author Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, wpg97541 said: The light version is the free demo, you'll want to buy the Premium version for actual use. As it says on the page: "Lite" edition has all of the features of "Premium" edition, but will start to reduce color saturation after being connected for more than 10 minutes. Upgrade to "Premium" edition via Steam DLC to remove this limitation. TrinusPSVR is the same price I believe for the non-demo version, but iVRy Premium is much simpler to use and very stable - a much more polished product overall. I would say not to waste your money on TrinusPSVR with iVRy available now, especially since the pricing is nearly identical. Thanks for the advice will do. So how do i run it and vorpx?
wpg97541 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 11 hours ago, alex61821 said: Thanks for the advice will do. So how do i run it and vorpx? It has been a few months since I last used iVRy (as I said I moved to a different VR system due to controller issues), but iVRy was very easy to start. I don't even remember having to start any kind of driver manually before starting SteamVR, I think I just had to start SteamVR and it detected everything and started everything. I don't know how VorpX works because I never tried.
prinyo Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 First start VorpX, then start SKSE. VorpX will attach automatically to Skyrim when it starts.
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