Sex act aware Follower PLEASE pretty please

[Ragsinn]

Greetings

 

As far as I am aware there are no follower mods that have a sex aware feature. What I mean by sex aware is that they would comment on sex acts happening to them or the Hero/Heroin.

Sorta like Spectator Crowds for one Follower. 

 

I myself can not script and I am 100% sure this needs scripting. If someone could make the follower and scripts I would totally write all the dialogs if their were an example in the 

follower quest of where to place the lines. 

 

If your interested in doing this or are aware of any follower mod that already does this Please let me Know.

 

Thanks in Advance!  

 

 

[Seijin8]

11 minutes ago, Ragsinn said:

they would comment on sex acts happening to them or the Hero/Heroin

Not without directly fucking with Sexlab.  Actors involved in a scene do not speak and should not be capable of speaking.  Any mods that seem to do this are either cheating or meddling with Sexlab's internals in a way that would be inadvisable.

 

You can fake it by using something like Apropos2, and it will work for every follower, every NPC, etc.

[Ragsinn]

30 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

Not without directly fucking with Sexlab.  Actors involved in a scene do not speak and should not be capable of speaking.  Any mods that seem to do this are either cheating or meddling with Sexlab's internals in a way that would be inadvisable.

 

You can fake it by using something like Apropos2, and it will work for every follower, every NPC, etc.

That's unfortunate but it does seem that Dirty Talk and Sexist Guards both to some degree allow actors to comment. Apropos would be my go to if the widget would stay deployed @400 instead of reverting all the time. It's all good appreciate your fast reply. It never hurts to ask right.

[Seijin8]

19 minutes ago, Ragsinn said:

That's unfortunate but it does seem that Dirty Talk and Sexist Guards both to some degree allow actors to comment. Apropos would be my go to if the widget would stay deployed @400 instead of reverting all the time. It's all good appreciate your fast reply. It never hurts to ask right.

Sorry, I was incomplete in my answer.

 

Making NPCs who are not involved in a sex scene speak/comment/use dialogue is fine (so long as they are not attempting to forcegreet the player).  No issues there.

 

The problem is enabling any sort of AI for an actor participating in a sex scene (as in, actually animating).  Dialogue requires AI.

[Ragsinn]

24 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

Sorry, I was incomplete in my answer.

 

Making NPCs who are not involved in a sex scene speak/comment/use dialogue is fine (so long as they are not attempting to forcegreet the player).  No issues there.

 

The problem is enabling any sort of AI for an actor participating in a sex scene (as in, actually animating).  Dialogue requires AI.

Again I appreciate your fast reply, so the actors involved in a sec act with Dirty Talk installed  are not actually animating when they comment? Seems to me that it does work and they  do comment. I get that the PC won't be able to comment unless it's some sort of script magic like Sexist Guards uses. I am also not sure you would need any kind of special AI for detecting if sexlab is running and what its running and who its running on. Anal, Oral, Vaginal, Aggressive, Consensual, Male, Female, Creature If its a positive result make a comment if its negative go on and continue scanning.

 

Detection must be happening in Mods Like Sexist Guards, Dirty Talk, Spectator Crowds. Why can this not work for a follower ( who already  benefits from all those mods ) To make comments ..Im not talking about interactive dialogues or Starting a scene ..I'm hopeful that a follower is just like any other npc when it comes to speaking in text,

 

Thank Again!

[Seijin8]

3 minutes ago, Ragsinn said:

Again I appreciate your fast reply, so the actors involved in a sec act with Dirty Talk installed  are not actually animating when they comment? Seems to me that it does work and they  do comment. I get that the PC won't be able to comment unless it's some sort of script magic like Sexist Guards uses. I am also not sure you would need any kind of special AI for detecting if sexlab is running and what its running and who its running on. Anal, Oral, Vaginal, Aggressive, Consensual, Male, Female, Creature If its a positive result make a comment if its negative go on and continue scanning.

 

Detection must be happening in Mods Like Sexist Guards, Dirty Talk, Spectator Crowds. Why can this not work for a follower ( who already  benefits from all those mods ) To make comments ..Im not talking about interactive dialogues or Starting a scene ..I'm hopeful that a follower is just like any other npc when it comes to speaking in text,

 

Thank Again!

If I recall correctly (and I may not), Dirty Talk fakes it.  The actor you are "hearing from" isn't actually the one in the scene.  All conversations with Hermaeus Mora are the same: you're actually in dialogue with an orc named "Hermaeus Mora" who is in an unreachable location.  The tentacled thing you are "talking to" is a special effect and cannot actually talk.  Fun test: find the code for the speaking Hermaeus Mora orc and kill it with the console.  Result: The daedric prince can never speak again.  (And other fun result: your game is now broken and many quests are now stuck.)

 

Regarding AI, for an actor to be in a Sexlab scene and not just go walking off without notice, their AI has to be deactivated.  Deactivated AI means no talking can happen.  In any case where someone is talking while animating it is as I've said before: they are either faking it (like the Hermaeus Mora trick) or they are messing with Sexlab's internals, and that is likely a very bad idea.

 

The Hermaeus Mora trick can make it seem like you are talking/hearing from a specific actor by switching the speaker's display name.  You wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a gameplay perspective.  You can probably reveal this trick using something like Jaxonz Renamer on the actor in the scene.  (Also: that probably breaks things.)

[Ragsinn]

18 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

If I recall correctly (and I may not), Dirty Talk fakes it.  The actor you are "hearing from" isn't actually the one in the scene.  All conversations with Hermaeus Mora are the same: you're actually in dialogue with an orc named "Hermaeus Mora" who is in an unreachable location.  The tentacled thing you are "talking to" is a special effect and cannot actually talk.  Fun test: find the code for the speaking Hermaeus Mora orc and kill it with the console.  Result: The daedric prince can never speak again.  (And other fun result: your game is now broken and many quests are now stuck.)

 

Regarding AI, for an actor to be in a Sexlab scene and not just go walking off without notice, their AI has to be deactivated.  Deactivated AI means no talking can happen.  In any case where someone is talking while animating it is as I've said before: they are either faking it (like the Hermaeus Mora trick) or they are messing with Sexlab's internals, and that is likely a very bad idea.

 

The Hermaeus Mora trick can make it seem like you are talking/hearing from a specific actor by switching the speaker's display name.  You wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a gameplay perspective.  You can probably reveal this trick using something like Jaxonz Renamer on the actor in the scene.  (Also: that probably breaks things.)

I really appreciate your fast answers. Let's hope that someone may have  some more idea's even if it involves some voodoo. As an experiment I might try modding Dirty Talk for my own personal use and just high jack it for use with a single follower. That alone gets me part way there. If someone does come up with a way to do this ..we can all enjoy the fun. 

[Ragsinn]

@Seijin8 What you said gave me another Idea ..You mentioned Hermaeus Mora and the speaker actually being an orc hidden away. I wonder how crazy creating a Jewelry race ( ring whatever0 that can speak or say things ..act as someone's mental processes ..then any follower who equipped it would gain the effect. I know I am full of bad Idea's!

[Seijin8]

9 hours ago, Ragsinn said:

@Seijin8 What you said gave me another Idea ..You mentioned Hermaeus Mora and the speaker actually being an orc hidden away. I wonder how crazy creating a Jewelry race ( ring whatever0 that can speak or say things ..act as someone's mental processes ..then any follower who equipped it would gain the effect. I know I am full of bad Idea's!

That should work, though you are limiting it unnecessarily.  There is no need for proximity to the speaker or object at all.  They can be infinite distance away and the scripting for it works the same.

[Seijin8]

11 hours ago, Ragsinn said:

I really appreciate your fast answers. Let's hope that someone may have  some more idea's even if it involves some voodoo. As an experiment I might try modding Dirty Talk for my own personal use and just high jack it for use with a single follower. That alone gets me part way there. If someone does come up with a way to do this ..we can all enjoy the fun. 

Sure.  I mean, functionally I don't think it is all that difficult to do.  As with any dialogue mod, it is the large variety of responses that make it super time-consuming.  Apropos' use of wildcards is the real key to making that kind of thing work with less overall time investment for more variety in the dialogue.