Apap Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 Hey guys, so I have this issue with shouting - whenever I'm in battle and I try to shout, the effect comes with a huge lag, meaning that my character does not activate it upon pressing the shout button, but it takes some time before it activates. There are no issues outside of fighting and I can also shout at the beginning of the battle before doing anything else no problem. It becomes most evident when I'm already mid combat, have cast spells etc. To get this out of the way, it's not an issue of shout being on cooldown - I have the bar full each attempt. I found some related topics on various forums from years back, and supposedly this issue is connected to using ENBoost. The threads did not offer any solutions, though. Obviously it would be silly to get rid of ENBoost so I was wondering if anyone knows of a possible solution or a fix for the issue. Thanks!
GenioMaestro Posted February 12, 2020 Posted February 12, 2020 Give us your pluging list, your last Papyrus.log and say what manager(NMM, MO, Vortex) are you ussing. How long have you had this problem? 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months? Happend with every shout, including the pure vanila shouts? Maybe only happend with specific shouth from specific mods like Virgin, Untamed and similar? Have you installed new mods recently? Based in your description i think you are ussing special shouts from special mods, likeVirgin, Untamed and similar, and you have script lag. Probably your log can show Stack Dumps or maybe your game is bad configured. The first thing we need is a Papyrus.log
Apap Posted February 12, 2020 Author Posted February 12, 2020 7 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: Give us your pluging list, your last Papyrus.log and say what manager(NMM, MO, Vortex) are you ussing. How long have you had this problem? 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months? Happend with every shout, including the pure vanila shouts? Maybe only happend with specific shouth from specific mods like Virgin, Untamed and similar? Have you installed new mods recently? Based in your description i think you are ussing special shouts from special mods, likeVirgin, Untamed and similar, and you have script lag. Probably your log can show Stack Dumps or maybe your game is bad configured. The first thing we need is a Papyrus.log I'm using MO2 and I think the problem has been there for a very long time (2-3 weeks, maybe a bit longer). I didn't mind at first because I haven't been using shouts at all, but as the levels progressed and playing a mage is a pain, I figured I could use them to help keep myself alive. I'm attaching my Papyrus log and here's the plugin list: Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm WM Flora Fixes.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heels Sound.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm CreatureFramework.esm paradise_halls.esm Havok Breast Physic.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm Cutting Room Floor.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp FISS.esp SexLabTools.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp The Ordinary Women.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp EggFactory.esp Dead Body Collision.esp imp_helm_legend.esp Paralysis.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp SkyUI.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp VioLens.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp Prettier Bandits.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp NARC.esp ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp WetandCold.esp Budoka.esp Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp Havok Breast Physic.esp HDTSextoys.esp XPMSE.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuLE.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp MagicNipple.esp dc-mana-tanks-000.esp CumOnAnything.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp ShinShi_Armor_Replacer.esp Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp Lactating Breasts.esp SGEyebrows.esp FacelightPlus.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp Neithteam Warpaint.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Differently Ebony.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp Glowing Eyes.esp 3PCO.esp KhopeshSwordBronze.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp VerisFollower.esp ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp CBBE BisPackage.esp TrueStorms.esp TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp Cumshot.esp CumshotSL.esp SLAnimLoader.esp XN_Sagittarius.esp LH Jewel Collection.esp wuyi.esp CBBE Lust Control.esp Chain Metal Outfit.esp [NINI] Charles Rene.esp DPnTrielekMix.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp YurianaWench.esp [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp Mango.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp SlaveTats.esp Proper Aiming.esp [Melodic] Gold Princess.esp [Melodic] Egyptian Accessory (Light Armor).esp [Melodic] Egyptian Accessory.esp MiniBikini.esp Neith - Timerigan Priestess.esp GomaArmorEgypt.esp nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp Blush When Aroused.esp nhaSimpleSexing.esp KomAnimObjectsSBT.esp SexLabDefeat.esp DW.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp Bijin AIO.esp zzEstrus.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp FNISspells.esp HDT Piercingsets.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp RosaFollower.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp Rylie Companion.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp Statues.esp TentaCave.esp The issue pops up with every vanilla shout and only mid-battle, particularly when casting spells inbetween. I do have some custom mod shouts but haven't been using them at all either (CoA is pointless as I play a female character, and Estrus has not been unlocked yet because of the Hermaeus Mora's add-on). Thanks for taking the time to look at this! Papyrus.0.log
GenioMaestro Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Apap said: Thanks for taking the time to look at this! You have a gigantic Stack Dump with 13k lines plenty full of mods making OnItemAdded() Spoiler START OF THE STACK DUMP AT [02/12/2020 - 11:56:51PM] Susp 264 [alias Player on quest MGR12 (00028A1E)].ARTH_SCRP_MGR21PlayerAliasScript.OnItemAdded() - (requested call) 264 [Active effect 8 on (00000014)].SOS_ActorMagicEffect_Script.OnItemAdded() - (requested call) 261 [alias Player on quest CR03 (00025230)].ARTH_CRF_CR03PlayerAliasScript.OnItemAdded() - (requested call) 260 [alias PlayerAlias on quest PHHSHStorage (82008402)].phhshplayerscript.OnItemAdded() - (requested call) 5 <unknown self>.utility.WaitGameTime() - "<native>" Line ? 4 [alias Player on quest CR03 (00025230)].ARTH_CRF_CR03PlayerAliasScript.OnItemAdded() - "ARTH_CRF_CR03PlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 8 3 [alias Player on quest MGR12 (00028A1E)].ARTH_SCRP_MGR21PlayerAliasScript.OnItemAdded() - "ARTH_SCRP_MGR21PlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 7 3 [PHHSHStorage (82008402)].phhshstoragefunctions.PortableFunctions() - "native" Line ? 2 [MGR12 (00028A1E)].QF_MGR12_00028A1E.GetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 64 1 [PHHSHPortable (8202E0F2)].pahoportable.CellToken() - "native" Line ? 1 [ (00057906)].BladeTrap.PlayAnimationAndWait() - "<native>" Line ? 1 [alias PlayerAlias on quest PHHSHStorage (82008402)].phhshplayerscript.OnItemAdded() - "phhshplayerscript.psc" Line 5 1 [ (020160C3)].DweSteamTrigger01SCRIPT.PlayAnimationAndWait() - "<native>" Line ? 1 [WMFFControlQuest (07010065)].wmffcontrolquestscript.OnUpdate() - "WMFFControlQuestScript.psc" Line 21 1 [ (00054B15)].TrapSwingingWall.PlayAnimationAndWait() - "<native>" Line ? 1 [CR03 (00025230)].CR03QuestScript.GetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 64 1 [PAH (1201FAEF)].pahcore.OnUpdate() - "pahcore.psc" Line 460 1 [alias Mikrul on quest dunFolgunthurQST (0004CEDE)].dunFolgunthurBossBattle.CountActiveEnemies() - "dunProgressiveCombatScriptRefAlias.psc" Line 111 1 [Active effect 8 on (00000014)].SOS_ActorMagicEffect_Script.OnItemAdded() - "SOS_ActorMagicEffect_Script.psc" Line 209 END OF THE STACK DUMP Number of (requested call):1049 Number of DIFERENT Scripts:19 Number of CUMULATED Scripts:1076 You have 1049 (requested call) distributed in 260 script from MGR12, SOS, CR03 and PHHSHStorage. The first script come from MGR12 and is a vanilla quest called Bring a Filled Grand Soul Gem to Sergius Turrianus I presume you know what is SOS = Scholongs of Skyrim The CR03 is another vanilla quest called Animal Pelt Collection, i think from The Companions. The PHHSHStorage come from Paradise Hall but can come from Home Sweet Home. Try finish that vanilla quest, MGR12 and CR03, or open the console and type: completequest MGR12 completequest CR03 Revise your installation of SOS. If all look good, disable SOS and start yours game whitout SOS. Accept the message about faulting pluging and play. Theorically, the game must works removing SOS in mid play whitout any problem. You can activate SOS in some days when your problem disappear. If your game not works when removing SOS, probably, is bad configured. But you can NOT remove Paradise Hall or Home Sweet Home. If you disable one of that mods yours slaves can disappear, can lost the master, can be locked in a fourniture.. can happend a lot of unrecoverable things. Make that and tell us the results. Some questions: Did you use the console or other tricks to increase your carryweight? How many items do you have in your character's inventory? Have you transferred a large amount of items from a chest to your character?
Apap Posted February 13, 2020 Author Posted February 13, 2020 7 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: The first script come from MGR12 and is a vanilla quest called Bring a Filled Grand Soul Gem to Sergius Turrianus I presume you know what is SOS = Scholongs of Skyrim The CR03 is another vanilla quest called Animal Pelt Collection, i think from The Companions. The PHHSHStorage come from Paradise Hall but can come from Home Sweet Home. MGR12 - I actually do not have that mission in my quest list. I did complete one of these radiant missions from Sergius when first time in the college but did not get more since. CR03 - yeah, I need to visit the companions to close this quest still. PHHSHStorage - Maybe this is related to the function that allows you to make your slaves carry items for you like any other follower? 8 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: Revise your installation of SOS. If all look good, disable SOS and start yours game whitout SOS. Accept the message about faulting pluging and play. Theorically, the game must works removing SOS in mid play whitout any problem. You can activate SOS in some days when your problem disappear. If your game not works when removing SOS, probably, is bad configured. There are a few mods in my LO that are dependent on SOS - wouldn't disabling it actually mess things up? I'll see if it's installed correctly - I'm actually not sure whether I used the full or lite version. 8 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: Some questions: Did you use the console or other tricks to increase your carryweight? How many items do you have in your character's inventory? Have you transferred a large amount of items from a chest to your character? I usually carry around a total of 300-320 weight (too many potions, jewels and other crap I actually need to dump some day). Got an enchantment on my boots to boost my carrying capacity and on occasion I do use a knapsack. I do not use any tricks and mods to carry more, though. As for the transfer, I actually just completed the Forsworn Conspiracy and escaping the mines quests - at the end you have all of your confiscated items returned to you, so maybe that's what you're referring to.
GenioMaestro Posted February 13, 2020 Posted February 13, 2020 The quest MGR12 is one of unfinished vanilla quest and some people report problems with it. Open the console and type: StopQuest MGR12 The quest CR03 is one of the Companions Radiant and you can complete it or open the console and type: StopQuest CR03 The script that show in the log is phhshplayerscript and i doubt can have any relation to the slaves. I not know a mod with direct dependency from SOS because CumShot have a soft dependency. If you are talking about the diferent types of scholongs, called Smurf Average, Plexus Regular and Muscular, not worry about it, you can disable it whitout any problem. But if you have some specialiced scholongs that really have a hard dependency from SOS you can have problems. If that is the case, better not disable SOS because i can not know what can happend. Your carryweigth is normal, i have double of you but i'm level 140. The number of items in the inventory, normally, is not a problem. I think your problem is caused by the quest Forsworn Conspiracy because, precisely, transfer a lot of items exactly when you have 2 vanilla quest active plus 2 mods whit quest monitoring the inventory. Seems to be a bad mix of coincidences. The only solution i see is stop that vanilla quest, wait some minutes of real time, from 5 to 10 minutes, and save the game. Open it with ReSaver and look how many Active Scripts you have.
Apap Posted February 17, 2020 Author Posted February 17, 2020 Ok, so over the weekend I cleaned my save, killed the quests and did some testing. Generally it helped a bit with how the game behaves in general, but did not fix the problem. However, I made a new observation: there is no issue with the shouts when in FPP - the roulette starts when running in TPP. Having thought about it, I am now almost certain that the issue is caused by XPMSE's nip magic option, the ground one to be precise. Ground option seems to have a little animation embedded that triggers every minute or so and I think the script governing it interferes with shouting. This would explain why it's particularly difficult to shout after casting magic - casting spells seem to be resetting the timer for the animation, so if you want to shout then, your character may be getting two conflicting requests at the same time: one for the XPMSE animation and one for the shout animation. There may be no issue in FPP because that animation is exclusive to TPP (either that or Joy of Perspective is blocking it, no idea), so it does not trigger and consequently interfere in that PoV. I'll probably test that theory later by seeing if I can change the magic mode to the default one and if the issue is still there afterwards.
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