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Untamed charmed Chaurus in combat issues


AlipheeseXV

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Hello everyone, sorry if this is already answered anywhere and I'm just too noobish to find it.

 

As I also asked in the mods thread HERE 

I am having trouble when I charm Chaurus via "untamed".

All works fine so far if it is non combat related.

In combat a charmed Chaurus who is member of my pack runs in 9/10 times to the enemy and then... just stands before him or with enough space circles around him... but doesn't attack him.

Is this mod related or something with their behaviour?

As I am totally new to Skyrim I don't know what even can cause this.

 

Also my mods in load order:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     RaceCompatibility.esm
  7  7     battlenymphs.esm
  8  8     SexLab.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     EFFCore.esm
 12  c     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 13  d     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 14  e     FemaleWerewolf.esp
 15  f     UIExtensions.esp
 16 10     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 17 11     BeastessLair.esp
 18 12     dc-untamed-000.esp
 19 13     dc-untamed-100-stfu-spriggan.esp
 20 14     dc-untamed-100-stfu-wolf.esp
 21 15     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 22 16     EFFDialogue.esp
 23 17     FNIS.esp
 24 18     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 25 19     SOS - Shop.esp
 26 1a     HentaiCreatures.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenu.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 29 1d     RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
 30 1e     RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
 31 1f     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 32 20     SexLab More Creatures.esp
 33 21     SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
 34 22     SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
 35 23     SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
 36 24     SkyUI.esp
 37 25     SLAnimLoader.esp
 38 26     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 39 27     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 40 28     XPMSE.esp
 41 29     LoversComfort.esp
 42 2a     SexLabDefeat.esp
 43 2b     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 44 2c     ccas_starts.esp

 

Posted
18 hours ago, AlipheeseXV said:

In combat a charmed Chaurus who is member of my pack runs in 9/10 times to the enemy and then... just stands before him or with enough space circles around him... but doesn't attack him.

The problem is at your end somewhere. I've just taken a heavily defended Ft Hraggstad and my chaurus were great with the poison artillery.

Posted
1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

The problem is at your end somewhere. I've just taken a heavily defended Ft Hraggstad and my chaurus were great with the poison artillery.

 

If I would know why.

As my mod list shows I even dumped estrus chaurus+

So no endless cycle of breeding chaurus eggs...

 

For now I stick with 2 Ash Hoppers.

Fun to watch them run fast and then kill something.

 

At least thy for clarify it is at my end.

And not some known issue I havn't read yet.

:)

 

Posted
1 hour ago, AlipheeseXV said:

 

If I would know why.

As my mod list shows I even dumped estrus chaurus+

So no endless cycle of breeding chaurus eggs...

 

For now I stick with 2 Ash Hoppers.

Fun to watch them run fast and then kill something.

 

At least thy for clarify it is at my end.

And not some known issue I havn't read yet.

:)

 

Sorry I can't be more help.

I use Skyrim Immersive Creatures and Bad Dog's Immersive Creatures rather than 32 20     SexLab More Creatures.esp.
   33 21     SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
 34 22     SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
 35 23     SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

They shouldn't be there with the latest versions of MNC.

 

I've used this mod for a few years but this was the first time I'd used chaurus. I read your post just before I attacked Ft Hraggstad and you had me worried. ?

The chaurus were great outside as artillery but died very quickly inside going toe to toe with OBIS bandits. ☹️

This is us after we came outside again.

 

 


There were 70 of us going into the attack and about 40 survived. There's 1 chaurus hopper there somewhere but it didn't do any fighting as far as I could see.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Sorry I can't be more help.

I use Skyrim Immersive Creatures and Bad Dog's Immersive Creatures rather than 32 20     SexLab More Creatures.esp.
   33 21     SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
 34 22     SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
 35 23     SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

They shouldn't be there with the latest versions of MNC.

 

I've used this mod for a few years but this was the first time I'd used chaurus. I read your post just before I attacked Ft Hraggstad and you had me worried. ?

The chaurus were great outside as artillery but died very quickly inside going toe to toe with OBIS bandits. ☹️

This is us after we came outside again.

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There were 70 of us going into the attack and about 40 survived. There's 1 chaurus hopper there somewhere but it didn't do any fighting as far as I could see.

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So you are saying I should switch out SexLab Creatures all 4 with your mentioned 2 mods?

Will this break my game with my shown mods?

 

And holy, are these all creatures charmed with untamed?

Looks like an army to me! :D

 

Posted
9 hours ago, AlipheeseXV said:

So you are saying I should switch out SexLab Creatures all 4 with your mentioned 2 mods?

SexLab More Creatures hasn't been updated since 2015 and is mostly just dogs and horses. SIC adds all sorts of creatures, including some of the rieklings in my screenshot. SIC and BDIC work with MNC. That's just my recommendation. I've always used BDIC, SIC and MNC and never had any problems in nearly four years.

Changing mid-game shouldn't cause any problems but I cannot guarantee it. If do fancy trying it then dismiss any creatures you have and take yourself to somewhere with no animals in it, save and go from there.

 

SL Nude Creatures should go. Read up on the MNC main page.

 

EDIT: Your problem is with chaurus so the cause is likely to be with MNC and SLNC. Read the MNC main page and to get rid of SLNC and get the latest MNC working. That can be done mid-game.

I don't use Hentai Creatures but there is info about that on the MNC page.

9 hours ago, AlipheeseXV said:

And holy, are these all creatures charmed with untamed?

Looks like an army to me!

Yes, all done with Untamed.

1st Battalion The Queen's Own Herbaceous Borderers.

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On 1/13/2020 at 2:04 PM, Grey Cloud said:

SexLab More Creatures hasn't been updated since 2015 and is mostly just dogs and horses. SIC adds all sorts of creatures, including some of the rieklings in my screenshot. SIC and BDIC work with MNC. That's just my recommendation. I've always used BDIC, SIC and MNC and never had any problems in nearly four years.

Changing mid-game shouldn't cause any problems but I cannot guarantee it. If do fancy trying it then dismiss any creatures you have and take yourself to somewhere with no animals in it, save and go from there.

 

SL Nude Creatures should go. Read up on the MNC main page.

 

EDIT: Your problem is with chaurus so the cause is likely to be with MNC and SLNC. Read the MNC main page and to get rid of SLNC and get the latest MNC working. That can be done mid-game.

I don't use Hentai Creatures but there is info about that on the MNC page.

Yes, all done with Untamed.

1st Battalion The Queen's Own Herbaceous Borderers.

 

So, after some testing, even used SIC... it didn't change anything.

Maybe you were lucky and your Chaurus was at the 1/10 time when it actually does something in combat or it was due to you having so many animals that it couldn't come forth (until you mentioned his deth) and had to use poison spit.

For comparison: Frostbite Spider reacts totally normal, as it spits poison and when the enemy comes near, it does a melee attack.

 

Could you do me a favour?

Could you charm 1 to 3 Chaurus and go into battle only with them?

Just to see if they actually do fight or just run to the enemy.

Would really appriciate that. :)

 

Posted

Did you sort out MNC and SLNC?

Hentai Creatures. Are the chaurus from this mod or are they from a falmer dungeon? Is there any extra step needed to use this with MNC?

Do chaurus attack you in falmer dungeons?

Did you start new games to test things as info gets baked into saves.

 

 

 

Posted

I recruited a chaurus in Mzulft and it had no problems with fighting. It's still with us after several dungeons.

You'll have to take my word for it but the chaurus is on the other side of the column on the left getting stuck in. Damned thing moved behind the column just as I was going for the PrtScn key.



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Sorry for replaying only now, didn't see the answers!

 

On 1/16/2020 at 1:13 PM, Grey Cloud said:

Did you sort out MNC and SLNC?

Hentai Creatures. Are the chaurus from this mod or are they from a falmer dungeon? Is there any extra step needed to use this with MNC?

Do chaurus attack you in falmer dungeons?

Did you start new games to test things as info gets baked into saves.

 

 

 

 

MNC is on newest.

SLNC needs Hentai Creatures for some dog meshes. But otherwise I don't use it. So my Chaurus was from shimmermist cave.

And yes, even started completely new game and didn't work out either.

Somewhat sad as all other animals I tamed until now just worked fine.

 

Over the last days I tried out other things, so my game got bigger with mods and I will start a new game.

With other things for a better challenge will use OBIS now.

Will later in the game try it again with a Chaurus if I encounter some.

 

Only question for myself, if I keep SLNC and with it Hentai Creatures?

As I would miss all the horses when I visit a town.

Maybe I find another mod with gives more horses in settlements.

 

On 1/16/2020 at 11:10 PM, Grey Cloud said:

I recruited a chaurus in Mzulft and it had no problems with fighting. It's still with us after several dungeons.

You'll have to take my word for it but the chaurus is on the other side of the column on the left getting stuck in. Damned thing moved behind the column just as I was going for the PrtScn key.

 

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I take your word as you even tested it for me!

Thx for that :)

 

Just another question which is unrelated:

I am having trouble doing screenshots!

As dumb as it sounds, nothing goes.

I normally play with my 360 controler (yes, I am one of those who use them even on pc).

Just wanted to take a screen of my char and disconnected the controler, just to see, F12 doesn't work.

Not even when loading the game without controler.

I have zero experience with steam, but googled and checked - yes, F12 ist enabled.

So googled some more and found something about altering the Sky.ini

Didn't test that, as I am dumb as Kelly Bundy when it comes to tecnical things.

So just asking you, if you know a tip.

 

Greetings, Ali

Posted
1 hour ago, AlipheeseXV said:

So just asking you, if you know a tip

Well without getting too technical, I use the PrtScn key ? Next one along from F12. My ENB handles screenshots and puts a .bmp file in the Skyrim folder which I save as a jpg to post here. Generally (non-Skyrim) the PrtScn key copies to the clipboard and you just paste into paint or whatever.

I have Skyrim.ini set like this:

[Display]
bAllowScreenShot=0

 

You really should ask in the MNC support thread about Hentai Creatures and SLNC. They will put you right about whether you still need SLNC or not.

How many horses do you get in towns? I have horses in places like Morphal and Roriksted and wandering about in the countryside. No idea what mod they are from.

 

Sad news.

That chaurus was great and I kept it on afterwards. I got the thing killed in a fort. I stepped on a pressure while fighting on some stairs and a horizontal spear trap came out of the wall and caught the chaurus broadside. ? I was gutted (not as gutted as the chaurus obviously).

Posted
14 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Well without getting too technical, I use the PrtScn key ? Next one along from F12. My ENB handles screenshots and puts a .bmp file in the Skyrim folder which I save as a jpg to post here. Generally (non-Skyrim) the PrtScn key copies to the clipboard and you just paste into paint or whatever.

I have Skyrim.ini set like this:

[Display]
bAllowScreenShot=0

 

I don't use ENB.

But my research showed similiar to yours: Skrim.ini add "bAllowScreenShot=0" and replace the 0 with 1. If [Display] isn't there then also set it.

So asking which one is the ini?

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Maybe I will try it out in the following days.

 

19 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

You really should ask in the MNC support thread about Hentai Creatures and SLNC. They will put you right about whether you still need SLNC or not.

How many horses do you get in towns? I have horses in places like Morphal and Roriksted and wandering about in the countryside. No idea what mod they are from.

 

Sad news.

That chaurus was great and I kept it on afterwards. I got the thing killed in a fort. I stepped on a pressure while fighting on some stairs and a horizontal spear trap came out of the wall and caught the chaurus broadside. ? I was gutted (not as gutted as the chaurus obviously).

 

They are not neccessary.

As I understand of all the written things, hentai creatures is somewhat integrated about meshes or so. It was a time ago a dependacy but not anymore.

And SLNC... oh, just checking that I misunderstood you.

I don't use Nude Creatures anymore, as it is also in MNC.

I had Hentai Creatures only for "SLMC", more creatures - thats why I said I will miss the horses (With at least being SLMC from 2017 as someone postet in the support thread a updated file). But deinstalled both.

 

For the Chaurus: Sad, but it seems he was at least in your game useful.

I will see when I tame one, what happens now with him.

But I won't "force" it, just when I happen to see one when playing through the game.

Posted
2 minutes ago, AlipheeseXV said:

So asking which one is the ini?

It's the 'Skyrim' one directly below 'RendererInfo'. The 'SkyrimPrefs' is the SkyrimPrefs.ini.

Find 'File Explorer Options' in Control Panel. Click the 'View' tab and look for 'Hide extensions for known file types'. Untick it and file extensions will reappear on all your files, e.g 'Skyrim' will become 'Skyrim.ini'.

 

SLNC  SLMC

Sorry, that was me misreading it.

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