Guest Lady Luck Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 [video=youtube] New Elder Scrolls online Trailer "This will make WOW look dated" i was wrong to judge this game lately, i just got this trailer when my friends start talking about holy shit .... " damn i got starcraft 2 goosebumps " all over again and that usually a good thing , am i exicited to see the online counterpart we'll see this is what we gonna see in the future releases on Elder scrolls series, if you wanna say something now speak up .
Jexsam Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Well, it's certainly a good trailer. Doesn't tell me a lot about the game, though, so other than being entertaining, it doesn't do us much good.
Remy Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Trailers are always shiny, so im going to just throw my grain of salt arround and wait to see how the game really is.
Guest Lady Luck Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Well' date=' it's certainly a good trailer. Doesn't tell me a lot about the game, though, so other than being entertaining, it doesn't do us much good. [/quote'] i assume this is during a mission where you take a tower or something there is something fishy here perhaps return of the battlespire? who knows
Khiropter Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 That trailer made me wanna make a rouge again :X 4 years of rouge in wow made me sick of that class but what i have seen here made me change my thinking. I like that assassin class in the trailer :X And also this trailer looks amazing, but, but we will need to see the actual game. A lot of trailers were done really awesome and the game turned out to be a waste of money
Guest Lady Luck Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 u know let alone the trailer it self cost 200,000$ to make not really cheap i can agree with you there khir.
leddis3 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Well' date=' it's certainly a good trailer. Doesn't tell me a lot about the game, though, so other than being entertaining, it doesn't do us much good. [/quote'] i assume this is during a mission where you take a tower or something there is something fishy here perhaps return of the battlespire? who knows Yeah cause we all know Dragon Age II was about a massive, epic 3 way battle between the Templars, the Qunari and Flemeth's witches. Ohwaitnolol. Trailers are made of lies. They're often made before production on the game even begins with a few cliff notes to work from. Hell, look at Blizzard's trailers and CG cutscenes which always look about 500,000 times better than the games themselves. As for TESO being a WoW killer. So it claims. Just like SWTOR, LOTRO, Age of Conan and dozens of other pretenders claimed before it before getting mauled.
Khiropter Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Yeah cause we all know Dragon Age II was about a massive' date=' epic 3 way battle between the Templars, the Qunari and Flemeth's witches. Ohwaitnolol. Trailers are made of lies. They're often made before production on the game even begins with a few cliff notes to work from. Hell, look at Blizzard's trailers and CG cutscenes which always look about 500,000 times better than the games themselves. As for TESO being a WoW killer. So it claims. Just like SWTOR, LOTRO, Age of Conan and dozens of other pretenders claimed before it before getting mauled. [/quote'] Agree whit that all of the so called wow killers are now f2p...well p2w. Swtor one of the wow killers went f2p and even if it says it is f2p it is actually a p2p whit a f2p invitation into game. Tera is going f2p as well (but it will be a fail same as the European part of aion mentainned by the same company Gameforge). So in my opinion i would say that a game is a wow killer when it will actually kill wow, until then is just a 1st place contender.
Guest Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Lol,that trailer must be pure fiction considering aspects of visuals or gameplay of the actual game!When doing cg based trailers,anything is possible, but if you make a gameplay trailer,then you have limitations as for what is being displayed or how is being dispalayed,using the game's game engine that is!But there are cases where gameplay based trailers are misleading too.Take Skyrim's official trailer for example.I don't know about you but i have yet (i 've playing since release till now) to see my char being able to do stuff like: 1)Stop the last minute from falling under a cliff with his/her hands making instict reactions from fear of cliffhanging 2)Slash a dragon's head and simultanuesly the dragon's head to turn from pain simultanuesly because of pain 3)Heavy breath while idle due to exhaustion with cold breath(well at least cold breath effect happened after a mod came out) 4)Slash a dragon while flying over me and force it to crashland. 5)Automatic panning camera aspect of view. All these were made possible in the official trailer because it was made by tailoring seperate scenes with the use of console commands and directorship of a proffesional artist.(Which makes me wonder,why the hell did Bethesda go so lazy and didn't script the player actor and the camera so as to have all these godies in the actual game ).Nonetheless, it's a great trailer.
D7Rock88 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Here's a video that features actual gameplay, shows how combat works, how some of the classes function aswell as what pvp will be like. That trailer is pretty awesome, but this video shows more of what the game will really be like. So after watching this you can probably make a better decision of whether your gonna like it or not. Enjoy lads and lasses.
leddis3 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Yep, WoW clone. Oooh look at our quest zones and PvP and raids! Always the damn raids. I do not get MMO developers. Did WoW topple EverQuest by trying to be EverQuest? No, it was it's own damn thing. So why for the love of all that's holy do all these developers think that they can beat WoW by copying it? If I want to play WoW I'll... play WoW!
D7Rock88 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Yep' date=' WoW clone. Oooh look at our quest zones and PvP and raids! Always the damn raids. I do not get MMO developers. Did WoW topple EverQuest by trying to be EverQuest? No, it was it's own damn thing. So why for the love of all that's holy do all these developers think that they can beat WoW by copying it? If I want to play WoW I'll... play WoW! [/quote'] Heheh, really a WoW clone? I've played WoW for 6 years and I'm pretty sure they don't have rogues who can stealth aswell as heal a party (and don't say monks because they aren't rogues, they're monks) And don't go saying that all of WoW's ideas are totally original and their own, I mean yes alot of them are, but some were also copied from Everquest. Also as far as quests go with the whole go here kill this and go there and gather that well...lots of games have that sort of thing. Even Skyrim does, I mean alot of their quests are essentially you going into a place to get this item or kill this person/clear this place out. Also the combat is not really like WoW's either, I mean in WoW you can't really right click to block and left click to attack...thats all auto and blocking is determined by a stat. So WoW clone? I guess in someways it might be, but in many other ways...nope.
leddis3 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Yeah it's a WoW clone with a few gimmicks. Exactly like every other WoW clone out there. Take Age of Conan and it's skill combos for example. As for "rogues" who can heal the party, SWTOR did that already. So TESO gets to be derivative of a derivative. Yay. I'm not going to claim that WoW was 100% original, or that you cannot take elements from WoW, the problem is that every single one of these new MMOs try to *be* WoW and that's why every single one of them fail and sink into F2P obscurity. I maintain that the standard MMO formula is stale and has been for years, TES has always been about the sandbox experience and now with TESO they're talking about set pvp zones and raids. Compartmentalised, sanitised theme park gameplay. I'm sorry. That's not TES.
Guest Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 At least seems to have the feature your chars actions having some impact to the world and it's inhabitants.At least at a much greater level than Skyrim ever had.
MasaVK Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 That trailer is amazing but yeah it means nothing as others have said, some of the worst games on the market have some of the best cgi movies/trailers.
D7Rock88 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Well everyone has their own opinions, as for me? I like to be sensible and open minded about things, you know give it a chance, try it before I knock it and all that rather than just resort to bashing something I don't really know that much about. I mean call me crazy, but yeah I like to give things a chance. This game does look promising, and it looks like it can deliver on certain levels, and so what if the pvp zones are set? Atleast they aren't instanced and can be on a massive scale. Honestly though I'm just hoping for a good story, a new world to explore, and some dungeons to dive into filled with traps (which the dungeons have) trolls and who knows what else...seriously I'm so freakin tired of leveling characters through pandaria to 90. I'm ready to replace WoW even if it is with a WoW clone (which teso is not). They say looks can be decieving though, so who knows maybe I'll be dissapointed, or maybe I'll have a blast. No way to know for sure really, if I do end up dissapointed well then I guess thats my money down the drain, but I'm sure I'll get over it.
leddis3 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I've had this discussion numerous times before. "Give SWTOR a chance!" "Give LOTRO a chance!" "Give Aion a chance!" "Give Age of Conan a chance!" No thanks. MMOs have become a gutter industry, and everything I say is proved by precedent over and over and over. If I sound resentful, maybe I don't like the name of something I love like TES being tarnished by the greedy, simpering morons developing this game because they envy all the free money Blizzard makes. They covet WoW's position and waste everyone's time saturating the market with these gimmicky clones.
Guest Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 All i wish for this upcoming game is to 'not' look at all like any other MMO's!What i mean is that i am bored to death playing MMO's where my main purpose is to clear dungeons, take several soulless orders/quests, level up and just resort to pvp battles after everything because of lossing interest in the contets of the game itself.Hell...,better play pro evolution soccer or racing games to that...!Don't get me wrong, i've tried several MMO's only to find that are SOULLESS!I abandoned Lineage2 after several minutes of gaming,WOW the same (hell of a lot of icons on screen for me (difficulty even in remembering the use of every power,let alone the number of mouses i broke down because of the brainless point and clicking)),AION kept me more but only because of the babes,TERA..nah..bored since beta testing (though, brought some innovations as part as the combat is consearned (and the babes)),GW2 the same.I WANT INTERACTIOOOOONS!!!I want to be able to approach an NPC, who actually DOES something rather just standding still or waving at nobody just for me to take notice.I want sandbox behaviour that can be interrupted and afterwords being resumed!I want to be able to light fires or do stuff that change the enviroment like burning or cutting trees and bushes!I want to be able to level up by reading books,procure things,do chores etc (with animations of course) rather than hacking and slashing though mindless creatures that have spawn rates of minutes!I want to be able to be cheered or dissaproved for my actions by other NPCs,by guilds or factions!I want scripted gameplay cutscenes for my char and other player chars vs the world or other player groups!I want real time voice convertations between chars and NPCs,not just deaf mute texts!I know that i want TOO much but these are ALL that i want from a MMO!Unless they are provided i wont bother again playing them weather or not are called ESO or anything!I 'll stick with offline rpgs forever!!
Guest Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 On a side note..more info http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNHb0KvxBec&feature=player_embedded
Guest Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 More info: Hell, even half of the provided information on this video is legit,well, then my fellow TES fanboys we are at the gates of a nostalgic experience but with the addition of multiplayer functionality.To sum up the info for people bored to see a 30 min video here goes... According to the podcaster, Zenimax gave permittion/invitation to several TES veterans found from online Guilds and online forums inorder to have a meeting on the subject of what are the features that make a game a TES game experience.After that, they were given the exclusiveness of playing a preAlpha version of the game!The highlights leaked out of this gamethrough were: 1)Interaction with the enviroment (you can loot from static objects like tables and furnitures, several things just like Skyrim or Oblivion) 2)Fully voiced character dialogues for all conversation with NPCs 3)First and third person pov with the use of scroll bar 4)PC user friendly UI with neither too many info nor too few (that is, neither Skyrim crap UI nor WOW like) 5)Freedom of movement (you can go everywhere you see (that is, no fake background but actuall meshes for distant scenery that can be approached) 5)Clashes are starter points,you can be anything you want 6)You can wear and use anything you whant in the game despite your fuction or class you belong 7)Advanced AI for enviromental opponents (creatures or hostile NPCs deal and fight diffrenty a player who is using rogue,battlemage,spellcaster,barbarian or whatever tactics.They say that enemy AI will be using the so called synergy against you too). 8)They even mentioned killcam functionality.... and lot more... Maybe there is hope!!
Queen Bee Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 A lot of what he brings up in that video sounds dubious at best. I mean, is the ability to steal anything and everything really a good idea when you have hundreds, maybe thousands doing it? Is stealth for all a good idea? I'm also not fond of how they redesigned elves to be all pretty. And one server? So if/when that server goes down, no one gets to play? I'm frankly unconvinced and still highly skeptical.
Jexsam Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Coming from Star Trek Online, being a one-server MMO, it's really not so bad if they know how to work their maintenance and update schedule. It is irksome when there's legit server trouble bringing it down, but the advantages generally outweigh the drawbacks. "Stealth for all" combined with the world manipulation does sound... troublesome. But since the closest thing I've ever experienced to that is Minecraft, which isn't that close but close enough, I can say that it does open up quite a bit of griefing possibility. Especially if players are allowed to pickpocket each other. But the elves all being pretty bothers me the most. After all the trouble Skyrim went through to make TES elves a breed of their own, this happens and now everyone's a supermodel again. In a way I guess it matches the slightly more comic book aesthetic ESO has, but as a staunch defender of the artistic decision to make them unique in the first place, I am bothered very much by the move away. (For the record, I do use elf beautification mods that get rid of the Dunmer wrinkles, but I refuse to use anything other than the ridged forehead).
Cozy Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I am not sold. Frankly I am sick of MMO's these days, and while this may look good now I'm not sold. Especially considering the franchise we're talking about. When I think Elder Scrolls my mind goes back to when I first played Daggerfall when I was 14 and the sheer WOW factor that came with that. I think the best most detailed immersive single player RPG's around. I don't think MMO's. The last thing I want when playing an Elder Scrolls game is a bunch of 1337 man-children ruining the immersion. So I'll stick to the single player games I guess. Grant you chances are I will try this at some point or another, but still I'm not exactly thrilled to hear they are making an Elder Scrolls MMO. I thought it was a bad idea when fans first tossed it around years ago, and I think it's a bad idea now. However, it was inevitable that Bethesda would eventually toss their hat into the MMO race in an attempt to be the next wanna-be WoW killer I suppose.
Khiropter Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I am not sold. Frankly I am sick of MMO's these days, and while this may look good now I'm not sold. Especially considering the franchise we're talking about. When I think Elder Scrolls my mind goes back to when I first played Daggerfall when I was 14 and the sheer WOW factor that came with that. I think the best most detailed immersive single player RPG's around. I don't think MMO's. The last thing I want when playing an Elder Scrolls game is a bunch of 1337 man-children ruining the immersion. So I'll stick to the single player games I guess. Grant you chances are I will try this at some point or another, but still I'm not exactly thrilled to hear they are making an Elder Scrolls MMO. I thought it was a bad idea when fans first tossed it around years ago, and I think it's a bad idea now. However, it was inevitable that Bethesda would eventually toss their hat into the MMO race in an attempt to be the next wanna-be WoW killer I suppose. I agree whit you that now every company wants or try to be the next wow killer. And until know each and everyone failed. Now... whit the things that teso brings it is a slight possibility that it may indeed be a wow killer, but in the same time it can also mean that after one year or faster (swtor was released in December 2011 and lasted till September when it went f2p..well p2w actually in their case) will go f2p or same as the one i mentioned or tera that is going "f2p" at this point will be p2w. Regarding the game we will see at the time it will be released and also in the months after that how actually the game presents itself, from the gameplay, server stability to the community thoughts and also if it will be p2p to how many copies were sold and the subscribers it will have
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