Wanting a PC that can handle FO4

[Sieg Lo Green]

Gonna go ahead and admit I know way too little about gaming on PCs. The current PC I have I got years ago not exactly for gaming. I'm not looking to play on Ultra or anything or to play really anything more demanding than FO4 / Skyrim. That's really how ass my PC is now lol. 

 

Given my lack of knowledge with this stuff, is there one anyone has just bought that would work to play them stable? Like even if it's just on par with Xbox One performance.

 

I ask because my confusion with that PC game benchmark site. Short of spending $1000, the graphics card part always fails but I don't know which settings it's putting that against. It also says my current PC can't run Skyrim but it can if you count low settings. It also says I can run Golf With Your Friends just fine and I wouldn't call what is does running.

[2dk2c.2]

Most games list required minimums and recommended things.

Ignore the minimum, get the recommended,

And yes Nvidia Video cards cost tons but their competitor AMD's are slightly cheaper.

I wouldn't know about benchmarks.

If they help you see that everything is running as it should, great.

Otherwise pay too much and read tons about overclocking.

[xtremeGoose]

FO4 is pretty low on the totem pole of demanding games these days. Even integrated graphics on Ryzen 5 2400G with no dedicated video card will run Fallout 4 on low to moderate settings, and a $130 video card (i.e. RX 570) will get you ~60 FPS @ 1080p ultra, which will be roughly at Xbox One levels of performance -- probably somewhat better.

 

If I were you, I'd look at what I have right now and compare it to the Modest, Fair, and Good options on Logical Increments (switch it to whatever country you're in). It'll give you a rough idea of what you'll need to run Fallout 4 well and will give you options if you're looking to build a new PC:

https://www.logicalincrements.com/

 

Logical Increments suggests parts from NewEgg, but I'd take the parts list you've settled on and enter it on PC Part Picker (again switch to your country) to get more options for suppliers:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[Sieg Lo Green]

My biggest confusion has been this:

 

It says the recommended graphics card is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780.

 

I have found that card with both a lower and higher number at the end and it said both wouldn't run it.

[2dk2c.2]

 

 

gtx x60=cheap

gtx x70 (x80) (x80 super, TI) more money

GTX Titan-anything = decadence

AMD whatever-the-hell (5700XT?) is also nice.

But seriously the gtx x60 cards would be fine for fallout and Crysis and Skyrim

[xtremeGoose]

2 hours ago, Sieg Lo Green said:

My biggest confusion has been this:

 

It says the recommended graphics card is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780.

 

I have found that card with both a lower and higher number at the end and it said both wouldn't run it.

The way that NVIDIA works is they release a particular series of cards that are segmented into enthusiast (ultra high end), high end, midrange, and entry level cards. The first number indicates the series while the last two digits indicates the product (or segment). Entry level cards end in 50, midrange 60, high-end 70 and 80, and enthusiast cards are 80 Ti and Titan. So a GTX 780 would be a high-end GTX 700 series card.

 

A new series is introduced every couple years, sometimes longer apart, and will have new features, more memory, faster parts, etc., and generally card for card will be considerably faster than the previous series. For instance, a RTX 2070 is a bit faster than a GTX 1080. In general, you usually want to avoid very old cards like the GTX 780 and use something from the current or previous generation -- they'll be fairly cheap and much much faster.

 

Right now there might be a bit of confusion because NVIDIA went from the GTX 10 series to the RTX 20 series last year, but introduced a new GTX 16 series this year. The GTX 16 series was introduced to offer a lower cost option over the RTX 20 series by removing all the new ray tracing and AI acceleration gear introduced in the RTX 20 series. Older games like Fallout 4 don't use any of the new ray tracing or AI acceleration features of the RTX series while some (not all) very new games like Control do.

 

If you only care about Fallout 4 / Skyrim and similar, I'd just get a AMD RX 570 or maybe a NVIDIA GTX 1650S if you have a higher budget. If you want to play more modern games, look at higher end parts.

[Sieg Lo Green]

Based on the price range I was hoping to stay in, I've been looking at these two:

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-005B-000E1

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Inspiron-5676-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-AMD-Radeon-RX-570-1TB-HDD-8GB-RAM-i5676-A719BLU-PUS/555838782

 

 

Another example on performance, I have Fallout 4 on Xbox One regular lol. Not an S or an X so if it runs even like basic XB1 I'm fine.

[2dk2c.2]

7 hours ago, Sieg Lo Green said:

Based on the price range I was hoping to stay in, I've been looking at these two:

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-005B-000E1

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Inspiron-5676-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-AMD-Radeon-RX-570-1TB-HDD-8GB-RAM-i5676-A719BLU-PUS/555838782

 

 

Another example on performance, I have Fallout 4 on Xbox One regular lol. Not an S or an X so if it runs even like basic XB1 I'm fine.

https://www.frys.com/product/9930776?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

 

Window-shopping's free, plus I'd overspend knowing the tiny motherboards in the skytech couldn't be upgraded much.

*any* retail box you buy has bundled goodies like an OS, but my pick (refurbished) looks decent.

But you caught me off guard, I thought we were speaking about video cards.

We haven't covered monitors and keyboards

 

Apparently my pick has a hoary CPU but a decent video card, lots of memory and a whale of a lot of drive-space.

But whatever you pick ideally should be from a store you can drive to (and return to), but I don't know, I built my own and it cost way too much for what I have.

 

 

[nobis]

Had Dell 5587 , i7-8450(might be wrong on exact number) , GTX 1060 Max - Q, 16GB Ram, 30 - 50 Fps all the time

 

was perfect, moded, Ultra, now the laptop goes for $1000 or less.

[Decèdere]

On 12/30/2019 at 7:32 PM, Sieg Lo Green said:

Based on the price range I was hoping to stay in, I've been looking at these two:

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-005B-000E1

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Inspiron-5676-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-AMD-Radeon-RX-570-1TB-HDD-8GB-RAM-i5676-A719BLU-PUS/555838782

 

 

Another example on performance, I have Fallout 4 on Xbox One regular lol. Not an S or an X so if it runs even like basic XB1 I'm fine.

I think both of these would do the trick for you if all you're looking for is the bare minimum, but when you start throwing graphical mods in then you might get less than desirable frame rates. I have an old AMD FX-6300 6 core processor, an Radeon RX 560 4GB, and 16GB DDR3 RAM, and I can easily max out vanilla Skyrim and Fallout 4. Hi res texture mods are ok but I haven't bothered to try anything like ENB.

[Sieg Lo Green]

15 hours ago, Seelenlos said:

I think both of these would do the trick for you if all you're looking for is the bare minimum, but when you start throwing graphical mods in then you might get less than desirable frame rates. I have an old AMD FX-6300 6 core processor, an Radeon RX 560 4GB, and 16GB DDR3 RAM, and I can easily max out vanilla Skyrim and Fallout 4. Hi res texture mods are ok but I haven't bothered to try anything like ENB.

Yeah, my aim was for Medium, maybe High settings and if I got any graphical mods it would mostly be for characters. I have different grass mods on XB1 but I have never really used ENB for any games.

[Angrybird]

I don't know where you live but you should be able to do better than posted links:

 

CPU: ryzem 3600 ~205$

GPU: 1660 super ~ 250

board: AMD ~90

Ram: 16 gb ~80

PSU: Corsair or seasonic ~70

 

It's what I have, I don't know if even a 2070 could do much better since Fo4 is porrly optimized and shadows are massive resource hog so when set to maximum it drops to 20-30~ in city area, there's a mod that adjusts it on the go but I couldn't get it to work you can also try adjusting ini files to have something between medium and high since the shadows pop right in front of you at low-medium settings I couldn't make this work probably wrong ini but didn't bother to try more, godrays are also set to medium another resource hog, the rest of settings were mostly high-ultra keeping to 60fps generally.