vashar Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I love new threads!  She seems to have gone back to her normal routine. (Vanilla one, that is.) She's out walking her dog, praying at the temple, etc. Which means I can't buy pheromones from her, since she isn't at her shop. Otherwise interactions appear to be correct. I think the problem is that I enslaved her for the Bravil Underground quest, which included taking her out of the shop.  I've tried enslaving her and taking her to the shop, but that that didn't work, though I'm not really surprised. I also tried putting LoversBitch underneath BU in the load order, that didn't change anything either.  Current load order:   00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Lovers with PK.esm 03 LoversCreature.esm ** YoungerNPCs.esp 04 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.2] 05 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 06 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.1] ++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp ++ toothman's funny loadscreens.esp 09 AliveWaters.esp 0A AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 0B AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 0C Arena_Ring_V2.esp 0D ChaseCameraMod.esp 0E FlyingCameraMod.esp [Version 1.3] 0F Reznod_Mannequin.esp 10 Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp 11 Unsafe Streets.esp [Version 1.0] 12 Crowded Cities 15.esp 13 Crowded Roads 15.esp 14 Display Stats.esp [Version 2.0.1] 15 FormID Finder4.esp 16 Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp 17 Streamline 3.1.esp 18 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1] 19 DLCOrrery.esp 1A DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 1B DLCVileLair.esp 1C DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 1D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1E DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 1F DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 20 EY_Queens Armory.esp 21 LBExoticAyleidArmorLLonly.esp ++ RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp 22 Slof's Amazon Armour.esp 23 Slof's Boners! v5.esp 24 Slof's Giger Armour.esp 25 Slof's Horses Base.esp 26 DLCThievesDen.esp 27 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 28 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.11] 29 __thermae.esp 2A __thermae_LLCustomizer.esp 2B VaultsofCyrodiil.esp 2C DLCFrostcrag.esp 2D DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 2E Knights.esp 2F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 30 Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5] ++ LustyArgonianMaidContinued.esp ++ Ranokoas Organized Potions Two.esp 31 RedBag - Friendly Animals.esp 32 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 33 LoversCalm.esp 34 LoversFSE.esp 35 LoversDRader.esp 36 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 37 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2] 38 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp 39 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 3A LoversTachiCat2.esp 3B LoversRaperS.esp 3C LoversSlavePlay.esp 3D LoversBed.esp 3E LoversPayBandit.esp 3F LoversPower.esp 40 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 41 LoversBitch.esp 42 LoversCreature.esp 43 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 44 LoversBackup2.esp 45 LoversStopCombatEx.esp 46 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 47 LoversRapeSlave.esp 48 LoversAdultYield.esp 49 LoversLight.esp 4A LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 4B LoversSlaveTrader.esp 4C LSTBravilUnderground.esp 4D LoversHideMenus.esp 4E SMYB Full.esp 4F Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0] 50 Travel Anywhere.esp 51 undercover.esp [Version 2.0] 52 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 53 BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp 54 EnchantmentMastery.esp 55 MadCompanionshipSpells.esp [Version 2.5] 56 attack and hide medium v2.1.esp 57 Denock Arrows.esp 58 Oblivion XP.esp 59 CTAddPose_Mfethi.esp 5A CTAddPose_Merged.esp 5B zzEstrus.esp 5C FastTravelAllowed.esp 5D Slof's Playable Xivilai.esp 5E Slof's Snow Leopard Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race for RMV4.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules No Glow-Eyes & One-Eyed.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 5F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - Sc.esp 60 MuffinShare.esp ++ Better Looking Dark Elves.esp 61 Better Looking Redguards v2.esp 62 Better Looking Wood Elves Vanilla Black Eyes.esp ++ Slof's Better Bodies.esp 63 SIHydroClarity.esp ++ Slof's Manly Stride.esp ++ BottomlessBandits.esp ++ Robes.esp 64 Sexy Male Leather.esp 65 Pornostatues.esp 66 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 67 LoversMB2.esp 68 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 69 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 6A Lovers3dorgasm.esp 6B LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 6C Gems of rebuilding.esp 6D Necromancy Books.esp 6E Hypnotic Lure.esp 6F CombatFPSBooster.esp 70 Better Looking Dremora Playable.esp 71 MBP non-playable.esp    Bashed Patch is Lovers-free.
gregathit Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Try taking her back to the medical clinic in bravil underground and have her mind whipped.
vashar Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 Nope, didn't work. Took her into the shop.. and she left right away. Â In any of the quests, does she NEED to be in the shop? I mainly wanted to get pheromones.
gregathit Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Did you use resurrect or resurrect 1? Doing just the resurrect "should" completely reset her AI package. Â Oh, you may have to "wait" for her AI package to "catch up". After resurrecting her then leave her shop and wait for a couple of days and see if she is back working.
vashar Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 Sure, I'll try that. It'll have to wait until tomorrow, though. Â Thanks for all the help ^^
fejeena Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Did you checked your mods with Tes4Edit? Load all active mods, open LoversBitch, Non-Player Character, klick on Rena Bruiant. Is there a mod right of LoversBitch? (rightmost is Oblivion.esm and leftmost must be LoversBitch) If there is a mod left of LoversBitch then Rena have wrong AI Package.
vashar Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 Oh, that's interesting. Something with my bashed patch, 'parently. Changes her AI packages. Â Edit: Do you mean that leftmost is Oblivion.esm and on the right is LoversBitch? 'Cause that's what I have, with the Bashed Patch on the far right. Â Edit2: Putting LoversBitch below the Bashed Patch seems to work. How stable is this? Can it cause horrible pain and agony to my game?
Ark of Truth Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Lovers Bitch should not be in the Bashed patch. It is stable I also have mine between the patch and the LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp esps and it is fine.
vashar Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 It wasn't in the bashed patch. The bashed patch was overriding LoversBitch's edits to Rena Bruiant, returning her to default. Not sure why it did that, probably a dirty edit somewhere.
fejeena Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I have no Bashed Patch and no MBP (I change all mods that need MBP to no MBP) If it is not stable in your game(LoversBitch below the bashed patch) you can delete Rena in your bashed patch. Probably Rena is just a copie from the Oblivion.esm.
Grizzly UK Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Your Bashed Patch must have pulled in something for the NPC from an earlier loading mod which was then over-writing the NPC's edits in LoversBitch. Â I've found that building a Bashed Patch can quite often include some things that you'd rather it didn't and omit some things you want included! As such, whenever I rebuild a Bashed Patch I always check it in TES4Edit with all active mods loaded. That way I can verify what records have been merged into or left out of the Bashed Patch and correct them by dragging over the correct records. Â In this case, when you look at your Bashed Patch in TES4Edit and check the records for Rena Bruiant, if they conflict with the changes in LoversBitch then simply cut the records from your Bashed Patch. This way you can leave your load order as is, although you'd have to repeat this every time you rebuild your Bashed Patch. Â This becomes more important with Lovers mods because they should be disabled when you build a Bashed Patch. This means that any NPC edits in any Lovers mods can easily be lost due to other edits to the same NPC having been merged into your Bashed Patch.
Sarnaath Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Â I think the problem is that I enslaved her for the Bravil Underground quest' date=' which included taking her out of the shop. Â I've tried enslaving her and taking her to the shop, but that that didn't work, though I'm not really surprised. I also tried putting LoversBitch underneath BU in the load order, that didn't change anything either. [/quote'] Â Just release her. She doesn't have to stay enslaved. Â The bashed patch incorporates the vanilla AI for her, and overrides the LB changes. So putting LB after the bashed patch should work. Unfortunately doing so screws up Better Imperial City world map markers in my game and changes my setting for the magic script effect icon. So I created another option. Â If you are interested, I can send you my LoversBitchHelper add on which adds a store attendant (supposed to be Rena's sister). She never leaves the store and has the same AI packages as Rena. I set her up to sell the same items, and even be able to sell you the dogs and pay for training. PM if you want to try it. It's only useful if you want to put LB above the bashed patch. Â edit: the store attendant is a brand new NPC, so there's no other mods to conflict. I have no idea why the bashed patch incorporates Rena's vanilla AI, but I see the same thing in my bashed patch.
vashar Posted January 31, 2013 Author Posted January 31, 2013 I don't have any city-modifying mods, so I should be good, but thank you, Sarnaath! Â @Fejeena / Grizzly: I rebuild my bashed patch often enough that that seems like it would be a pain, but I'll reconsider if I find it to be unstable. Thanks, though ^^
fejeena Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Why make a new bashed patch? Open it with Tes4Edit, delete Rena, save, ready.
fejeena Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 ????Don't understand your question. If your game works fine with LoversBitch after the bashed patch don't change anything. But if not or you want your old load order back (bashed patch after LoversBitch) then open your bashed patch with Tes4Edit, open Non-Player Character, delete Rena, save, ready. Restore your old load order, play Oblivion.
vashar Posted January 31, 2013 Author Posted January 31, 2013 Sorry, sorry, it was meant as a response to your other post, regarding why I rebuild my bashed patch. I was saying that I add and rearrange my mods often, and so I rebuild my bashed patch often.
Grizzly UK Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 It only takes a few minutes to open all your active mods in TES4Edit and delete Rena's records from your Bashed Patch. Obviously it's your choice, although I'd suggest that your take a little time to at least check your Bashed Patch in TES4Edit, especially the NPC records, so that you can see if any other vanilla NPC's are being affected.
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