shinrei Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 So, with the recent SE update I updated SKSE, updated all mods that had updates available (from a list of SKSE dependent mods). I'm tech savvy, but not well versed enough in modding to fix these issues myself. I think there are some mods in my load order that haven't been updated yet to be compatible with the new update. Could someone help me out? Game crashes while loading a save or starting a new game. My load order: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 RaceCompatibility.esm 7 7 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 8 8 ApachiiHair.esm 9 9 battlenymphs.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b SexLabAroused.esm 12 c CreatureFramework.esm 13 d Campfire.esm 14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Assets.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 18 12 FlowerGirls SE.esm 19 13 FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm 254 FE 0 SerialStripper.esp 254 FE 1 SoS_ELFX+Enhancer_Patch.esp 254 FE 2 RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp 20 14 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 21 15 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 22 16 Immersive Wenches.esp 23 17 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 24 18 SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp 25 19 Cloaks.esp 26 1a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 27 1b Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 28 1c SkyUI_SE.esp 29 1d CharacterMakingExtender.esp 30 1e ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 31 1f EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 32 20 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 33 21 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 34 22 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 35 23 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 36 24 Abduction.esp 37 25 UIExtensions.esp 38 26 AddItemMenuSE.esp 39 27 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp 40 28 The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 41 29 TKAA.esp 42 2a AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 43 2b Animated Featherd wings.esp 44 2c BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 45 2d dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 46 2e Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 47 2f SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 48 30 Eli_Breezehome.esp 49 31 FNIS.esp 50 32 FNISSexyMove.esp 51 33 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 52 34 RaceMenu.esp 53 35 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 54 36 SerialStrip.esp 55 37 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 56 38 SexLabDefeat.esp 57 39 SLAnimLoader.esp 58 3a Bijin NPCs.esp 59 3b MoreNastyCritters.esp 60 3c UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 61 3d Bijin Warmaidens.esp 62 3e Bijin Wives.esp 63 3f Immersive Encounters.esp 64 40 zMirai.esp 65 41 Run For Your Lives.esp 66 42 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 67 43 Immersive Patrols II.esp 68 44 SofiaFollower.esp 69 45 SassyGirls.esp 70 46 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 71 47 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 72 48 Recorder Follower Base.esp 73 49 BodySearch.esp 74 4a SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 75 4b KS Hairdo's.esp 76 4c GPPoses.esp 77 4d opmfgconsole.esp 78 4e Poser Hotkeys.esp 79 4f DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 80 50 SexyVest.esp 81 51 My Home Is Your Home.esp 82 52 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp 83 53 Hermit.esp 84 54 Toccata.esp 85 55 AnubAnimObj.esp 86 56 FlowerGirls SE - Subdue.esp 87 57 MikanEyes All in one SE.esp 88 58 Serana.esp 89 59 RosaFollower.esp 90 5a SexLab Approach.esp 91 5b SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp 92 5c SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 93 5d SineadFollower.esp 94 5e Mirai Clothing Fixes.esp 95 5f HG_Echo.esp 96 60 HG_Saadia.esp 97 61 SOSRaceMenu.esp 98 62 XPMSE.esp 99 63 CBBE.esp 100 64 zzLSAR.esp 101 65 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 102 66 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 103 67 LABikiniSSE.esp 104 68 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 105 69 voidLetsGetNaked.esp 106 6a Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 107 6b Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 108 6c Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 109 6d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 110 6e ELFXEnhancer.esp 111 6f RealisticWaterTwo.esp 112 70 imp_helm_legend.esp
Psalam Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, shinrei said: So, with the recent SE update I updated SKSE, updated all mods that had updates available (from a list of SKSE dependent mods). I'm tech savvy, but not well versed enough in modding to fix these issues myself. I think there are some mods in my load order that haven't been updated yet to be compatible with the new update. Could someone help me out? Game crashes while loading a save or starting a new game. My load order: Hide contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 RaceCompatibility.esm 7 7 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 8 8 ApachiiHair.esm 9 9 battlenymphs.esm 10 a SexLab.esm 11 b SexLabAroused.esm 12 c CreatureFramework.esm 13 d Campfire.esm 14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Assets.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 18 12 FlowerGirls SE.esm 19 13 FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm 254 FE 0 SerialStripper.esp 254 FE 1 SoS_ELFX+Enhancer_Patch.esp 254 FE 2 RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp 20 14 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 21 15 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 22 16 Immersive Wenches.esp 23 17 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 24 18 SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp 25 19 Cloaks.esp 26 1a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 27 1b Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 28 1c SkyUI_SE.esp 29 1d CharacterMakingExtender.esp 30 1e ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 31 1f EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 32 20 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 33 21 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 34 22 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 35 23 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 36 24 Abduction.esp 37 25 UIExtensions.esp 38 26 AddItemMenuSE.esp 39 27 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp 40 28 The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 41 29 TKAA.esp 42 2a AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 43 2b Animated Featherd wings.esp 44 2c BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 45 2d dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 46 2e Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 47 2f SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 48 30 Eli_Breezehome.esp 49 31 FNIS.esp 50 32 FNISSexyMove.esp 51 33 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 52 34 RaceMenu.esp 53 35 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 54 36 SerialStrip.esp 55 37 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 56 38 SexLabDefeat.esp 57 39 SLAnimLoader.esp 58 3a Bijin NPCs.esp 59 3b MoreNastyCritters.esp 60 3c UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 61 3d Bijin Warmaidens.esp 62 3e Bijin Wives.esp 63 3f Immersive Encounters.esp 64 40 zMirai.esp 65 41 Run For Your Lives.esp 66 42 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 67 43 Immersive Patrols II.esp 68 44 SofiaFollower.esp 69 45 SassyGirls.esp 70 46 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 71 47 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 72 48 Recorder Follower Base.esp 73 49 BodySearch.esp 74 4a SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 75 4b KS Hairdo's.esp 76 4c GPPoses.esp 77 4d opmfgconsole.esp 78 4e Poser Hotkeys.esp 79 4f DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 80 50 SexyVest.esp 81 51 My Home Is Your Home.esp 82 52 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp 83 53 Hermit.esp 84 54 Toccata.esp 85 55 AnubAnimObj.esp 86 56 FlowerGirls SE - Subdue.esp 87 57 MikanEyes All in one SE.esp 88 58 Serana.esp 89 59 RosaFollower.esp 90 5a SexLab Approach.esp 91 5b SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp 92 5c SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 93 5d SineadFollower.esp 94 5e Mirai Clothing Fixes.esp 95 5f HG_Echo.esp 96 60 HG_Saadia.esp 97 61 SOSRaceMenu.esp 98 62 XPMSE.esp 99 63 CBBE.esp 100 64 zzLSAR.esp 101 65 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 102 66 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 103 67 LABikiniSSE.esp 104 68 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 105 69 voidLetsGetNaked.esp 106 6a Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 107 6b Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 108 6c Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 109 6d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 110 6e ELFXEnhancer.esp 111 6f RealisticWaterTwo.esp 112 70 imp_helm_legend.esp CTD at start of game is usually (almost always) one of two things. Either you are missing a master, which your mod manager should have warned you about, or you have too many animations, which the newest version of FNIS would warn you about. So, run LOOT and see if it pops up any missing masters as errors. Then run FNIS and paste the results here if you have any question about the status of your animations. The FNIS output normally starts with a description of your skeleton and ends with the number of animations that you've successfully loaded. Simply copy it all (with special attention to making certain that any warnings are included) and paste (Ctrl+V) it here (preferably in a spoiler).
shinrei Posted November 24, 2019 Author Posted November 24, 2019 Thank you for the reply, Psalam! The only errors I have in LOOT are "This plugin is a light master and requires the non-master plugin ..." for: SerialStripper.esp, SoS_ELFC+Enhancer_Patch.esp and RWT - People of Skyrim Patch.esp. I have all of those in my load order (as far as I know) and they ran fine before I started updating my game, SKSE64 and the mods. And yeah, I do have a lot of animations, but the game ran fine before I updated my SKSE64 and a couple of mods that had updates available (such as the Unofficial Patch, SkyUI, etc). The output from FNIS is below (I use the XXL variant): Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.5.1 XXL 2019-11-24 6:23:17 PM Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.97.0 - D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: Unknown (156 bones) male: Unknown (156 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Installing FNIS PCEA2 Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:426 CTD:5.1% pOpt:3.1% NOTE: Anubs Creature has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:732 CTD:8.9% pOpt:5.6% NOTE: Anubs Human has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading BaboHorribleHarassment V5 ... ChAnims:10 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.1% Reading BodySearchMotion V1.0 ... ChAnims:2 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:635(493) CTD:12.5% pOpt:1.9% NOTE: DD has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:330(330) CTD:10.6% pOpt:1.5% NOTE: DD2 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:102(102) CTD:10.6% pOpt:6.5% NOTE: DD3 has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:170 CTD:1.3% pOpt:0.5% Reading Defeat V5 ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.2% Reading Deviously Cursed Loot V6.3 ... ChAnims:21 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.1% Reading FlowerGirls SE - BDSM V1.2.0 ... ChAnims:396 CTD:2.7% pOpt:0.9% NOTE: FlowerGirls SE - BDSM has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading FlowerGirlsSE V3.0.2 ... ChAnims:1618 CTD:7.9% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISBase V7.5.1 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.2 ... ChAnims:21(18) CTD:3.3% pOpt:2.2% NOTE: FNISSexyMove has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided Reading FNIS_PCEA2 V7.2 ... ChAnims:557(557) CTD:12.0% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... ChAnims:180 CTD:1.1% pOpt:0.3% Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ... ChAnims:146 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ... ChAnims:85 CTD:0.5% pOpt:0.1% Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... ChAnims:334 CTD:2.0% pOpt:0.5% Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... ChAnims:471 CTD:3.0% pOpt:0.8% Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... ChAnims:156 CTD:1.0% pOpt:0.2% Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... ChAnims:45 CTD:0.3% pOpt:0.1% Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... ChAnims:310 CTD:1.9% pOpt:0.5% Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... ChAnims:590 CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.9% Reading GomaPeroPero1 V?.? ... ChAnims:1134 CTD:4.4% pOpt:0.0% Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.6% Reading RohZima V1.0 ... ChAnims:458 CTD:3.2% pOpt:0.9% Reading SerialStrip V1.1.4 ... ChAnims:13 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% NOTE: SerialStrip uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading SexLab V1.63 ... ChAnims:882 CTD:5.6% pOpt:1.5% Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0.9% pOpt:0.2% Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0.1% pOpt:0.0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... ChAnims:177 CTD:1.2% pOpt:0.3% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2.2% pOpt:0.0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ... ChAnims:829 CTD:3.6% pOpt:0.0% Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... ChAnims:61 CTD:0.4% pOpt:0.1% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male 4 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 7 sets: 90 total groups: 368 added file slots: 3304 alternate files: 1664 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... 11608 animations for 37 mods successfully included (character) ChAnims: 11608 CTD:109.4% pOpt:30.1% max: 10610 LC: 28624 (max. 26162) >>Warning: Too many custom animations. Your Skyrim is likely to crash (CTD, crash to desktop)<< 1775 animations for 5 mods and 39 creatures successfully included. 1 Warning(s). Everything I updated: Spoiler The game itself (auto-update by Steam..) SKSE64 SkyUI AddItemMenuSE The Kids Are Alright (Final Cut) SE RaceMenu MfgFix JContainers SE Fuz Ro D'oh FNIS Enhanced Character Edit CBP Physics CBPC LSAR (a little sexy apparel replacer) XP32 Maximum Skeleton Realistic Water Two Unofficial Skyrim SE Patch I hope you can help me out, thank you either way!
Carillon Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 For my experience i delete all Devious device mod because to high chance for ctd and nymph girl because random ctd when the mod is active! for you other mods idk ^^ i hope that can help you !
Psalam Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, shinrei said: ChAnims: 11608 CTD:109.4% pOpt:30.1% max: 10610 LC: 28624 (max. 26162) This line from FNIS says (among other things) that you stand a 109.4% chance of having CTD on loading due to too many animations. I'm sorry, that is not my opinion it's Fore's but I strongly expect that he is right. What you need to do is to go back through the FNIS output above and pick those mods that add up to about 10% that you think that you can live without and ... well, live without them. If it makes you feel any better this is a common thing to see with people who are upgrading their mods. The mod authors want to make their mods "better" and tend to add more animations in order to achieve that. Unfortunately, that means a load order with older version of mods works sometimes when the newer version doesn't (because of too many animations). Anyway, good luck and happy hunting!
shinrei Posted November 24, 2019 Author Posted November 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, Psalam said: This line from FNIS says (among other things) that you stand a 109.4% chance of having CTD on loading due to too many animations. I'm sorry, that is not my opinion it's Fore's but I strongly expect that he is right. What you need to do is to go back through the FNIS output above and pick those mods that add up to about 10% that you think that you can live without and ... well, live without them. If it makes you feel any better this is a common thing to see with people who are upgrading their mods. The mod authors want to make their mods "better" and tend to add more animations in order to achieve that. Unfortunately, that means a load order with older version of mods works sometimes when the newer version doesn't (because of too many animations). Anyway, good luck and happy hunting! As much as I hate to admit it, I think you were right. I removed one animation pack and it seems to work without issues.. Still odd to me, since it worked before the update! Thank you so much for your help though!!
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